Scotland Vs New Zealand

xor · 17th September 2007, 16:18

I got the kiwi's to get over half a century 54 - 17

xor · 17th September 2007, 16:20

oops, please move to Rugby discussion

Kryten · 17th September 2007, 17:48

We'll do well if our midfield back line can manage to not, you know, play like fucking retards.

Ab · 17th September 2007, 18:40

Magic 8-ball says... OUTLOOK NOT SO GOOD

Cheeps · 17th September 2007, 18:41

Well, its two opinions and pretty obvious.
They'll either get completely owned, by 50+ points. Or give the all blacks a fairly decent go.

CCS · 17th September 2007, 18:53

Is there any harm (apart from that to our pwnsome reputation) in fielding the weakest team we can put together as some macabre evil experiment?

caffiend · 17th September 2007, 19:47

As much as I love Scotland (I consider myself 49% Scottish), I believe this will be a big margin, but not massive.

I'm going with 51-13.

Rince · 17th September 2007, 20:13

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Originally Posted by caffiend

(I consider myself 49% Scottish)

explains a lot

caffiend · 17th September 2007, 20:20

Och! Get tae fuck, ya wee radge!!

slippers · 17th September 2007, 22:00

I reckon they will field their near 1st string team - probably with Toeava at centre though and maybe Mauger at 12. Some might consider that to be the first string team.

We really need to have a good hit out against scotland and the 1st team (the Italy team) has performed well so far.

Lets not pretend that the Portugal team and the Italy teams were the same teams - they wernt.

wugambino · 17th September 2007, 22:50

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Originally Posted by slippers

Lets not pretend that the Portugal team and the Italy teams were the same teams - they wernt.

wow, insightful

Phantom · 17th September 2007, 23:23

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Originally Posted by caffiend

As much as I love Scotland (I consider myself 49% Scottish), I believe this will be a big margin, but not massive.

I'm going with 51-13.

qft

My thoughts exactly. Hopefully a better performance than that seen against portugal. Say the first 60 minutes of the Italy game, combined with 20 minutes of other good All Blacks action (as opposed to what we saw -_-).

Honest to God, all I want to see is that we've got it together and are able to read the play well, not telegraph our fucking passes and the ability to recover / defend. That's it. Hopefully Scotland show up but whatever.

Am I alone in thinking this pool is the worst possible preparation for what's coming next?

Narnaman · 18th September 2007, 06:04

I think its going to be a closer game than the other matches we have had this RWC, But should still be an easy game for the AB's. Im expecting a good game though something along the lines of 30 - 10. It better be good as I have free tickets to the game

Ashley · 18th September 2007, 09:50

Expecting scotland not to fuck around and give the all blacks a good game.

slippers · 18th September 2007, 10:46

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Originally Posted by wugambino

wow, insightful

I mean the all black teams.

Both games had entirely different selections.

caffiend · 18th September 2007, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Phantom

Honest to God, all I want to see is that we've got it together and are able to read the play well, not telegraph our fucking passes and the ability to recover / defend. That's it. Hopefully Scotland show up but whatever.

100% agree. I'd be far happier with a contained, disciplined 30pt win where we keep them to none/very few points than I would be with a 'flash-harry' 60pt winning margin where we let them in for 3 soft tries, 2 intercepts and make lots of errors. We should play Scotland as if they were SA, because they're the hardest test we'll have before the quarters.

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Am I alone in thinking this pool is the worst possible preparation for what's coming next?

Nope. I was very disappointed when I saw the pool draw. We need to have at least 2 teams like Argentina, Wales or Ireland in our pool. These easy, big-score wins could well be making us sloppy and complacent.

Shazam · 19th September 2007, 10:21

I reckon we'll get over 50 and the scots will get somewhere around the 1 try 2 penalty mark. Either way as long as it's a good game I don't mind, since i'll be there :D

BtP · 23rd September 2007, 21:45

Just a heads up that tonights (tomorrow mornings) game kicks off at 3am... So only a half hour build up and not the usual hour starting at 2:30am.

fobski · 23rd September 2007, 22:34

I predict

a rape

caffiend · 23rd September 2007, 23:18

Yeah - I must admit, given that now I know we're fielding an A- team and they're fielding a C+ one... I think the winning margin could be a bit bigger than I posted above.

Such a shame. I had hoped we'd get a decent warm-up for the QF.

blynk · 24th September 2007, 02:52

I think we will get into the 70's
Maybe 72 - 18

badassmofo · 24th September 2007, 04:26

Well, Leon looks like he's done his hip/groin again. 2 First Choice Fullbacks out now.

Kryten · 24th September 2007, 04:49

And Sivi still can't fucking catch a cold, let alone a rugby ball.

Helious · 24th September 2007, 05:39

Poor Carter.

Shocking day with the boot.

_Incubus_ · 24th September 2007, 05:46

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Originally Posted by Kryten

And Sivi still can't fucking catch a cold, let alone a rugby ball.

...or pass behind...how many fucking times did he pass it forward..FUCK

Chrono · 24th September 2007, 05:54

Very average, argh.

Jin · 24th September 2007, 07:44

Leon McDonald looks sharp.

McAlister played well.

Douggie needed more ball.

Ali - outstanding again.

The Refs need to sort the scrums out.

On the whole it seemed like we were trying to play it tight at their pace rather than ours - every time we stepped it up we made mistakes - though we are the only country in the world that beats a 6 nations team by 40 points and calls it a bad day at the office.

DRa1N · 24th September 2007, 07:51

pretty mediocre game played there. clothing was a bit to familiar. i bet that made it a bit tougher on everyone.

Kryten · 24th September 2007, 07:57

Yeah, the kit selection was a bit of a mess, we probably could have stuck to our black and the game would have been fine.

I wouldn't want to be in the shed after the game, Mr Henry did not look amused.

caffiend · 24th September 2007, 09:10

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Originally Posted by Jin

- though we are the only country in the world that beats a 6 nations team by 40 points and calls it a bad day at the office.

Not only beats a 6 nations side by 40 but keeps them scoreless.

I don't think it was that bad to be honest. I get the feeling we're being far too hard on them at the moment.

After seeing the second string SA side against Tonga I'm not quite so worried about us not being 'perfect' anymore. Sure we need to play better than we have so far, but I believe we will up the ante when we play either Aussie or SA.

Rince · 24th September 2007, 09:34

heheh - AJ and Foxy laminating the fact that a 40-nil scoreline was a poor effort, until it was pointed out that that kind of score was unheard of in their day

ZoSo · 24th September 2007, 09:36

The problem with that many errors creeping in, is that it can usually mean a precursor to being put under pressure by better teams and then another fold.

Heresy · 24th September 2007, 09:48

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Originally Posted by caffiend

Not only beats a 6 nations side by 40 but keeps them scoreless.

I don't think it was that bad to be honest. I get the feeling we're being far too hard on them at the moment.

After seeing the second string SA side against Tonga I'm not quite so worried about us not being 'perfect' anymore. Sure we need to play better than we have so far, but I believe we will up the ante when we play either Aussie or SA.

One thing that has been shown thus far in the RWC is that the Six Nations sides play an inferior style of rugby at an inferior level. They're a different league. We'd have a more challenging game against SA and Aus Super 14 sides than Six nations sides. Keeping them scoreless shouldn't be seen as any significant achievement of mention, Scotland showed no real signs of attacking for the entire 80 minutes.

I see your point, but I sat there watching this game thinking "if we make half as many mistakes against SA or Aus we're going to get punished for it severely".

blynk · 24th September 2007, 10:08

I think the problem with a lot of these games, is that there is not the same defense in the rucks, and there is a lot more movement around them.

I doubt there will be as many handling errors playing against Oz/SA.

I also like the fact that we wore the away strip, where they would have been more identifiable in the normal strip.

fixed_truth · 24th September 2007, 10:43

40-nil is still a hiding
good shit

Helious · 24th September 2007, 11:02

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Originally Posted by caffiend

I don't think it was that bad to be honest. I get the feeling we're being far too hard on them at the moment.

I'm not so sure about that. A lot of what was going wrong was stuff at the most basic of levels. We're an elite team and should make a very minimal amount of basic errors.

I felt very sorry for Carter, definitely a game best left forgotten. I'm not sure how many conversions/penalities he missed, but there must've been a good 10-15points right there.

We should've had a margin of around 70points on the Scot's.

Ah well, we're still dominating on points overall for the tournament. Fuck Australia.

JERI · 24th September 2007, 11:05

Execution may not be as clinical as they wanted, but I think it's reassuring that they can do such a fine job denying the opposition access to the ball. I can barely remember the parts of the game when the Scots were holding the ball at all.

Savage · 24th September 2007, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Helious-

I felt very sorry for Carter, definitely a game best left forgotten. I'm not sure how many conversions/penalities he missed, but there must've been a good 10-15points right there.

Did he do as badly as Pretorius in SA vs Tonga? ~_~

slippers · 24th September 2007, 14:39

Yeh pretty much.

I don't know why they insist using Carter for penalties and conversions when hes having an off day. McAlister is a way better kicker than Carter IMHO - for the ones out wide anyway. Evans ain't too shabby either.

Carter played pretty well aside from that though. His kicking in game was prefect and his placement for the kick-pass was spot on as well.

Helious · 24th September 2007, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Savage

Did he do as badly as Pretorius in SA vs Tonga? ~_~

haha, but who gives a fuck about SA :p

DON'T HURT ME BRO

Kaffa :p

24th September 2007, 09:34	#31
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	heheh - AJ and Foxy laminating the fact that a 40-nil scoreline was a poor effort, until it was pointed out that that kind of score was unheard of in their day __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

17th September 2007, 16:18	#1
xor	Scotland Vs New Zealand I got the kiwi's to get over half a century 54 - 17

17th September 2007, 16:20	#2
xor	oops, please move to Rugby discussion

17th September 2007, 17:48	#3
Kryten	We'll do well if our midfield back line can manage to not, you know, play like fucking retards.

17th September 2007, 18:40	#4
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Magic 8-ball says... OUTLOOK NOT SO GOOD

17th September 2007, 18:41	#5
Cheeps	Well, its two opinions and pretty obvious. They'll either get completely owned, by 50+ points. Or give the all blacks a fairly decent go.

17th September 2007, 18:53	#6
CCS Stunt Pants	Is there any harm (apart from that to our pwnsome reputation) in fielding the weakest team we can put together as some macabre evil experiment?

17th September 2007, 19:47	#7
caffiend	As much as I love Scotland (I consider myself 49% Scottish), I believe this will be a big margin, but not massive. I'm going with 51-13. __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why is everyone so unhappy these days?

17th September 2007, 20:20	#9
caffiend	Och! Get tae fuck, ya wee radge!! __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why is everyone so unhappy these days?

17th September 2007, 22:00	#10
slippers	I reckon they will field their near 1st string team - probably with Toeava at centre though and maybe Mauger at 12. Some might consider that to be the first string team. We really need to have a good hit out against scotland and the 1st team (the Italy team) has performed well so far. Lets not pretend that the Portugal team and the Italy teams were the same teams - they wernt.

18th September 2007, 06:04	#13
Narnaman	I think its going to be a closer game than the other matches we have had this RWC, But should still be an easy game for the AB's. Im expecting a good game though something along the lines of 30 - 10. It better be good as I have free tickets to the game

18th September 2007, 09:50	#14
Ashley Fuck up Ashley	Expecting scotland not to fuck around and give the all blacks a good game.

19th September 2007, 10:21	#17
Shazam	I reckon we'll get over 50 and the scots will get somewhere around the 1 try 2 penalty mark. Either way as long as it's a good game I don't mind, since i'll be there :D

23rd September 2007, 21:45	#18
BtP	Just a heads up that tonights (tomorrow mornings) game kicks off at 3am... So only a half hour build up and not the usual hour starting at 2:30am.

23rd September 2007, 22:34	#19
fobski	I predict a rape __________________ He sleeps. Sock. Bar of soap. Bang bang bang! Brain damage. Corn field. Gun. pchew Funeral

23rd September 2007, 23:18	#20
caffiend	Yeah - I must admit, given that now I know we're fielding an A- team and they're fielding a C+ one... I think the winning margin could be a bit bigger than I posted above. Such a shame. I had hoped we'd get a decent warm-up for the QF. __________________ If ignorance is bliss, why is everyone so unhappy these days?

24th September 2007, 02:52	#21
blynk	I think we will get into the 70's Maybe 72 - 18

24th September 2007, 04:26	#22
badassmofo	Well, Leon looks like he's done his hip/groin again. 2 First Choice Fullbacks out now.

24th September 2007, 04:49	#23
Kryten	And Sivi still can't fucking catch a cold, let alone a rugby ball.

24th September 2007, 05:39	#24
Helious	Poor Carter. Shocking day with the boot.

24th September 2007, 05:54	#26
Chrono User Awaiting Email Confirmation	Very average, argh.

24th September 2007, 07:44	#27
Jin	Leon McDonald looks sharp. McAlister played well. Douggie needed more ball. Ali - outstanding again. The Refs need to sort the scrums out. On the whole it seemed like we were trying to play it tight at their pace rather than ours - every time we stepped it up we made mistakes - though we are the only country in the world that beats a 6 nations team by 40 points and calls it a bad day at the office. Last edited by Jin : 24th September 2007 at 07:46.

24th September 2007, 07:51	#28
DRa1N	pretty mediocre game played there. clothing was a bit to familiar. i bet that made it a bit tougher on everyone.

24th September 2007, 07:57	#29
Kryten	Yeah, the kit selection was a bit of a mess, we probably could have stuck to our black and the game would have been fine. I wouldn't want to be in the shed after the game, Mr Henry did not look amused.

24th September 2007, 09:36	#32
ZoSo	The problem with that many errors creeping in, is that it can usually mean a precursor to being put under pressure by better teams and then another fold.

24th September 2007, 10:08	#34
blynk	I think the problem with a lot of these games, is that there is not the same defense in the rucks, and there is a lot more movement around them. I doubt there will be as many handling errors playing against Oz/SA. I also like the fact that we wore the away strip, where they would have been more identifiable in the normal strip.

24th September 2007, 10:43	#35
fixed_truth	40-nil is still a hiding good shit

24th September 2007, 11:05	#37
JERI	Execution may not be as clinical as they wanted, but I think it's reassuring that they can do such a fine job denying the opposition access to the ball. I can barely remember the parts of the game when the Scots were holding the ball at all. __________________ your intelligence has been insulted.

24th September 2007, 14:39	#39
slippers	Yeh pretty much. I don't know why they insist using Carter for penalties and conversions when hes having an off day. McAlister is a way better kicker than Carter IMHO - for the ones out wide anyway. Evans ain't too shabby either. Carter played pretty well aside from that though. His kicking in game was prefect and his placement for the kick-pass was spot on as well.