Labour Thus Far.... - Page 37

Ab · 21st June 2023, 23:53

Morgan Godfery nails it:

https://twitter.com/MorganGodfery/st...643801602?s=20

Quote:

The current government is passively presiding over the collapse of tertiary and vocational education, the slow degradation of primary and secondary education, and most alarmingly of all: the decline in health services and quality. See: the brutal rolling cuts to Dunedin hospital

Lightspeed · 22nd June 2023, 15:08

Kinda misses that the political forces that would actively preside over such collapse are make a pretty good show of dog whistling their way to power right now.

StN · 23rd June 2023, 06:56

My GP is no doubt typical of those in the field.

"You've got insurance, right?"

"Yep..."

"For imaging? Ok, I'll refer you to these guys, that will expedite your diagnosis and treatment - the public system is so broken."

Said through the muffling over an N95 mask, wary of catching it for the 5th time - he did a phone consult for my son, because tickly throat.

Another chap at the pub was told he needed endoscope work to ascertain why he has excessive bleeding - might be lucky for a 6-week waiting list. Paid $3k to get it done private now.

Obviously these are examples of a privileged position - I don't know how elderly or even joe average can have any faith in being treated in a reasonably prompt manner. Prioritising oncology surgery is probably horrendous at the best of times, but some doctors are being made to make really nasty decisions now - and that will no doubt have a flow on effect in the mental health of those we need the most.

Ab · 28th June 2023, 23:18

Kiri Allan gone. Hipkins seems to be losing Ministers at an alarming rate.

Ab · 5th July 2023, 12:52

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/teache...DSDXEJIGUKVCA/

StN · 6th July 2023, 06:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herald

The so-called “fast draft” said science would be taught through four contexts - the Earth system, biodiversity, food, energy and water, and infectious diseases.

Perhaps a focus on Maths too?

Ab · 6th July 2023, 12:10

Electrolytes.

Lightspeed · 6th July 2023, 14:13

Looking after our kids in NZ is obviously a nice-to-have. We've probably been indulging them too much really.

I'm really looking forward to National getting re-elected and nipping all that in the bud.

Ab · 6th July 2023, 15:01

A country that designs a science curriculum for its children that doesn't include physics, chemistry, or biology is a country that doesn't have a future.

Lightspeed · 6th July 2023, 15:06

Yesterday was the 3rd consecutive day that the world broke the average temperature record.

Tell me more of this "future" you've heard of?

Ab · 6th July 2023, 16:12

Fortunately dealing with this situation is improved by having an entire generation ignorant of physics, chemistry, and biology.

Lightspeed · 6th July 2023, 16:17

Sure, but why would we change course now? We opted to plunge in headlong.

And think of all these smartypants kids coming up, telling us how badly we fucked up. Suggesting maybe power and influence are in the wrong hands.

No. Thank. You. I won't have MY betters be challenged like that!

Ab · 6th July 2023, 18:30

Yeah, but as the climate wars progress I reckon it'll be better to be in one of the sciencey-realityish countries than in one of the superstitiony-horoscopey countries.

crusador · 6th July 2023, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

A country that designs a science curriculum for its children that doesn't include physics, chemistry, or biology is a country that doesn't have a future.

The amount of seemingly basic content i'm going to have to take upon myself to educate my kids is growing and growing it seems :/

Lightspeed · 6th July 2023, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Yeah, but as the climate wars progress I reckon it'll be better to be in one of the sciencey-realityish countries than in one of the superstitiony-horoscopey countries.

I wonder how we make that choice.

fixed_truth · 6th July 2023, 23:00

It all looks like the usual knee-jerk reaction to me. A fast draft released to a few teachers for feedback that was leaked to media but we can't read.The curriculum developer coming out and clarifying that the usual science subjects will still be taught, just in a way more integrated with each other.

Lightspeed · 7th July 2023, 13:18

It's most definitely a case of turds and jizz.

Lightspeed · 12th July 2023, 15:00

Hipkins allaying fears in the face of poll slumps:

Don't worry! The rich can still keep getting richer!

blynk · 13th July 2023, 08:51

The problem with Labour (or any central party).
They get so worried about those middle ground people that they get too scared to do shit that should be done/has long term benefits.

Especially if it relates to housing.

Ab · 13th July 2023, 11:08

The concluding lines of the previous two posts are identical.

xor · 13th July 2023, 12:13

I agree, the govt should tax more from the taxpayers.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/larges...PDEXRSZORZSFM/

_indigo1 · 13th July 2023, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by blynk

they get too scared to do shit that should be done/has long term benefits.

This ... is representative capitalist democracy in general....

Lightspeed · 19th July 2023, 18:14

Watch: Government's knee-jerk reaction to populist baiting

Ab · 19th July 2023, 20:01

Gotta distract people from the (checks notes) inflation, housing affordability, school attendance, education performance, hospital waiting lists...

Lightspeed · 20th July 2023, 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

You'd hope so. The long anticipated wave of shit and misery is here, peaked by a fucking pandemic. Labour is going to need someone who is sharp on their feet if they're going to come out clean.

Well, really, they should anticipate getting fucked, TBH. There should be a cold sweat going around those halls.

I can totally see why Ardern dipped out. If I were in her shoes and still PM I would have thrown up upon the news there's a shooter in Auckland.

Luxon must be giddy.

StN · 24th July 2023, 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Luxon must be giddy.

I'd say visibly turgid.

<waits for Ab to get up - grabs popcorn>

And she had so much going for her when she fronted the Tsunami last year as Civil Defence minister.

StN · 24th July 2023, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiri

“My actions yesterday show I wasn’t okay, and I’ve let myself and my colleagues down,” Allan said.

From the looks of the picture, she let the utes tyre down too...

xor · 24th July 2023, 10:49

Kiri Allan should've read MadMax's thread about drink driving, hey.

Ab · 24th July 2023, 11:55

Allan has always been unstable. Her personal life is a soap opera full of turbulent lesbian partnerships and nuclear breakups. She’s smart but has been promoted beyond her experience and abilities too many times because female and gay and brown. She was utterly unqualified to be Minister of Justice. Add in the pressure of a (alleged?) cancer diagnosis, inability to retain staff because of her temperament, her latest relationship breakdown, and the Wellington goldfish bowl atmosphere and she was a disaster waiting to happen.

East Coast would have been better served if its electors had chosen National’s Tania Tapsell instead, but they didn’t.

Look on the bright side for Labour; this car crash has knocked last Friday’s train wreck off the front pages.

Lightspeed · 24th July 2023, 16:53

I'm not sure anyone who isn't a cynical cunt survives that position. Like really, I think you have to have a strong indifference to a good chunk of humanity to be able to effectively function at the top of... all that.

Much better if the public allowed government to implement any kind of meaningful reform. But we keep dithering in the middle. Those riding the gravy train and those hoping to are too powerful a bloc, too unwilling to put the status quo at risk.

So whoever has the job has to be ice cold in the face of all that chaos and need. Anyone else I'd expect to melt.

Ab · 25th July 2023, 11:28

Bryce Edwards: everyone knew this was coming

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...PRIOIIZTHIOSQ/

xor · 25th July 2023, 13:07

compassion and concern for a person charged with drink driving and resisting arrest. What a circus NZ is

Ab · 25th July 2023, 14:41

See: female and gay and brown. There is no creature in NZ left politics better insulated from negative consequences than a "Rainbow Labour" MP and former Helen Clark staffer. Even to this day.

Ab · 25th July 2023, 14:45

Jesus christ, check out this narcissistic me me me fest of a resignation letter, posted to Instagram of course:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvGZp0jP...f-e766e85ea8db

Summary: it's all about me, I have let myself down, the only thing I did wrong was trying too hard to be the awesomest me I can be.

StN · 25th July 2023, 14:55

And still no mention of that poor utes tyre that got let down...

Ab · 25th July 2023, 14:59

YES STOOLIE WE GOT IT THE FIRST TIME

fixed_truth · 25th July 2023, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by xor

compassion and concern for a person charged with drink driving and resisting arrest. What a circus NZ is

To be picky she wasn't charged with drink driving

xor · 26th July 2023, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

To be picky she wasn't charged with drink driving

All good, it was probably my fault that she resisted arrest.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/07/25/w...lture-support/

fixed_truth · 26th July 2023, 15:19

Yeah, definitely nothing to do with you, or society, or how people with mental health issues are supported in NZ. It's all their fault. #everydayeurocentrism

xor · 27th July 2023, 09:47

Aaaah 'them'.

22nd June 2023, 15:08	#1442
Lightspeed	Kinda misses that the political forces that would actively preside over such collapse are make a pretty good show of dog whistling their way to power right now. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

23rd June 2023, 06:56	#1443
StN I have detailed files	My GP is no doubt typical of those in the field. "You've got insurance, right?" "Yep..." "For imaging? Ok, I'll refer you to these guys, that will expedite your diagnosis and treatment - the public system is so broken." Said through the muffling over an N95 mask, wary of catching it for the 5th time - he did a phone consult for my son, because tickly throat. Another chap at the pub was told he needed endoscope work to ascertain why he has excessive bleeding - might be lucky for a 6-week waiting list. Paid $3k to get it done private now. Obviously these are examples of a privileged position - I don't know how elderly or even joe average can have any faith in being treated in a reasonably prompt manner. Prioritising oncology surgery is probably horrendous at the best of times, but some doctors are being made to make really nasty decisions now - and that will no doubt have a flow on effect in the mental health of those we need the most.

28th June 2023, 23:18	#1444
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Kiri Allan gone. Hipkins seems to be losing Ministers at an alarming rate.

5th July 2023, 12:52	#1445
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/teache...DSDXEJIGUKVCA/

6th July 2023, 12:10	#1447
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Electrolytes.

6th July 2023, 14:13	#1448
Lightspeed	Looking after our kids in NZ is obviously a nice-to-have. We've probably been indulging them too much really. I'm really looking forward to National getting re-elected and nipping all that in the bud. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

6th July 2023, 15:01	#1449
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	A country that designs a science curriculum for its children that doesn't include physics, chemistry, or biology is a country that doesn't have a future.

6th July 2023, 15:06	#1450
Lightspeed	Yesterday was the 3rd consecutive day that the world broke the average temperature record. Tell me more of this "future" you've heard of? __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

6th July 2023, 16:12	#1451
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Fortunately dealing with this situation is improved by having an entire generation ignorant of physics, chemistry, and biology.

6th July 2023, 16:17	#1452
Lightspeed	Sure, but why would we change course now? We opted to plunge in headlong. And think of all these smartypants kids coming up, telling us how badly we fucked up. Suggesting maybe power and influence are in the wrong hands. No. Thank. You. I won't have MY betters be challenged like that! __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

6th July 2023, 18:30	#1453
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Yeah, but as the climate wars progress I reckon it'll be better to be in one of the sciencey-realityish countries than in one of the superstitiony-horoscopey countries.

6th July 2023, 23:00	#1456
fixed_truth	It all looks like the usual knee-jerk reaction to me. A fast draft released to a few teachers for feedback that was leaked to media but we can't read.The curriculum developer coming out and clarifying that the usual science subjects will still be taught, just in a way more integrated with each other. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

7th July 2023, 13:18	#1457
Lightspeed	It's most definitely a case of turds and jizz. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

12th July 2023, 15:00	#1458
Lightspeed	Hipkins allaying fears in the face of poll slumps: Don't worry! The rich can still keep getting richer! __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

13th July 2023, 08:51	#1459
blynk	The problem with Labour (or any central party). They get so worried about those middle ground people that they get too scared to do shit that should be done/has long term benefits. Especially if it relates to housing.

13th July 2023, 11:08	#1460
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	The concluding lines of the previous two posts are identical.

13th July 2023, 12:13	#1461
xor	Largest net migration loss to Australia since 2013 as Kiwis pursue higher wages.. I agree, the govt should tax more from the taxpayers. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/larges...PDEXRSZORZSFM/

19th July 2023, 18:14	#1463
Lightspeed	Watch: Government's knee-jerk reaction to populist baiting __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

19th July 2023, 20:01	#1464
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Gotta distract people from the (checks notes) inflation, housing affordability, school attendance, education performance, hospital waiting lists...

24th July 2023, 10:49	#1468
xor	Kiri Allan should've read MadMax's thread about drink driving, hey.

24th July 2023, 11:55	#1469
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Allan has always been unstable. Her personal life is a soap opera full of turbulent lesbian partnerships and nuclear breakups. She’s smart but has been promoted beyond her experience and abilities too many times because female and gay and brown. She was utterly unqualified to be Minister of Justice. Add in the pressure of a (alleged?) cancer diagnosis, inability to retain staff because of her temperament, her latest relationship breakdown, and the Wellington goldfish bowl atmosphere and she was a disaster waiting to happen. East Coast would have been better served if its electors had chosen National’s Tania Tapsell instead, but they didn’t. Look on the bright side for Labour; this car crash has knocked last Friday’s train wreck off the front pages.

24th July 2023, 16:53	#1470
Lightspeed	I'm not sure anyone who isn't a cynical cunt survives that position. Like really, I think you have to have a strong indifference to a good chunk of humanity to be able to effectively function at the top of... all that. Much better if the public allowed government to implement any kind of meaningful reform. But we keep dithering in the middle. Those riding the gravy train and those hoping to are too powerful a bloc, too unwilling to put the status quo at risk. So whoever has the job has to be ice cold in the face of all that chaos and need. Anyone else I'd expect to melt. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

25th July 2023, 11:28	#1471
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Bryce Edwards: everyone knew this was coming https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...PRIOIIZTHIOSQ/

25th July 2023, 13:07	#1472
xor	compassion and concern for a person charged with drink driving and resisting arrest. What a circus NZ is

25th July 2023, 14:41	#1473
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	See: female and gay and brown. There is no creature in NZ left politics better insulated from negative consequences than a "Rainbow Labour" MP and former Helen Clark staffer. Even to this day.

25th July 2023, 14:45	#1474
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Jesus christ, check out this narcissistic me me me fest of a resignation letter, posted to Instagram of course: https://www.instagram.com/p/CvGZp0jP...f-e766e85ea8db Summary: it's all about me, I have let myself down, the only thing I did wrong was trying too hard to be the awesomest me I can be.

25th July 2023, 14:55	#1475
StN I have detailed files	And still no mention of that poor utes tyre that got let down...

25th July 2023, 14:59	#1476
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	YES STOOLIE WE GOT IT THE FIRST TIME

26th July 2023, 15:19	#1479
fixed_truth	Yeah, definitely nothing to do with you, or society, or how people with mental health issues are supported in NZ. It's all their fault. #everydayeurocentrism __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.