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15th August 2013, 14:53 | #1 |
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Key on Campbell Live re GCSB Bill
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15th August 2013, 15:55 | #2 |
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summed up in 1 image... john campbell....
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15th August 2013, 16:06 | #3 |
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I liked Cambell's last report on the issue. Not keen to see this interview though, sounds like an over 9000 cringe factor.
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15th August 2013, 16:08 | #4 |
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Jesus, that was brutal. I find Campbell quite entertaining in an endearing sort of way but he was fucking roadkill there.
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15th August 2013, 20:51 | #5 |
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Key was smiling as if to say 'I have you by the balls you fucking idiot'
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15th August 2013, 21:59 | #6 |
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Yep - Key knew the format backwards, knew exactly how long he needed to spend on each answer, didn't let Campbell shift to other points at the usual time marks. Campbell Live may have managed to set the agenda (in terms of setting the topic through the previous shows) but Key managed to defuse all of that through answering a few questions very slowly.
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16th August 2013, 00:01 | #7 |
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The whole GCSB roadtrip thing they are doing is pretty silly. It is pretty much 10 minutes of this every night:
Reporter: "Do you think the bill is being pushed through too quickly? Yeah?" Random person: "Uh, yeah" Reporter: "Yeah" *nods* *END SCENE* |
16th August 2013, 01:43 | #8 |
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"let me come back to that"
"we'll come back to that in a second" "let me explain this first, it's very important, we'll get to that soon" so fucking pro
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16th August 2013, 01:57 | #9 |
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Haha. Key *will not let this bill fail*. It's very simple. He cannot afford to let this bill fail, or the spying on Kimble stays illegal, evidence gathered stays illegal, and he can't extradite him like he's been told to by the big kids he wants to look cool in front of.
Really the only surprising part is everyone in the media seems to have forgotten this was the point of the legislation (although, with juicy stories to follow like a reporter being spied on [for being given early access to a report about why the GCSB needed those laws changed... but ignore that bit] you can see why they dropped the original story). Even the snapper comment was excellent. It reminded your Average Kiwi Voter that actually they don't really care about the GCSB law being changed because Uncle John wouldn't use it for anything bad right? But damnit, I can't catch as many snapper as I used to? FUCK!
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16th August 2013, 09:23 | #10 |
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fidgit doing his best to sound like chubby
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16th August 2013, 09:28 | #11 |
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love how john lost his shit at the 11 minute mark. the look on keys face when campbell realised he was fucked was priceless.
im sure that campbell used to make good arguements but for the last couple of years his show has gone to shit. "human interest" bollocks. would be nice if we had a proper investigative journalism show without an agenda. |
16th August 2013, 09:57 | #12 |
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^yeah this.
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16th August 2013, 10:02 | #13 |
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This just reminds me of why I don't have boradcast TV.
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Campbell may have failed in the interview, but the show was a success in terms of actually getting Key in front of the camera (up until now he had pretty much refused to appear on the show) and defining the topic which was going to be talked about - it just happens that Key used the format to his advantage and didn't let Campbell define the terms of the discussion. Pixie
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16th August 2013, 13:11 | #18 |
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cambers on that them there botox time?
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However should it really be that difficult to get our PM in front of the camera on our only prime-time (pseudo)current affairs show (I don't count 7Sharp)? I mean the lengths that they've had to go to actually get him to front - as TD said they've had to devote 10+ minutes to each one of their shows for how long to actually get the the topic on the table. Somewhat of a pyrrhic victory (and that my be a gross understatement). Pixie
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16th August 2013, 14:37 | #22 |
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The thing that amazes me the most is that Key's opponents always assume that he's thick. Year after year, interview after interview, debate after debate, he wipes the floor with the person he goes up against and it's like they never saw it coming. It's as if his opponents just decided upon first seeing him that he's a smiling gormless puppet who has just stumbled into success like some sort of fucking Forrest Gump and they have steadfastly refused to revise that opinion.
Then they trot out some butthurt excuse like "oh, he only looked good because he's had MEDIA TRAINING." What the fuck? We're not playing tiddlywinks here Andre. When Key buttfucked Michael Cullen, it was just because of media training. When Key buttfucked Helen Clark, it was just because of media training. When Key buttfucked Phil Goff, it was just because of media training. When Key buttfucked John Campbell, it was just because of media training. Key’s opponents should either a) get some media training, because that shit obviously works; or b) wake up to the fact that the buttfuckery they’re getting from Key isn't just because of media training. |
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16th August 2013, 15:34 | #25 |
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Close up was terrible because Sainsbury was a bumbling fool who was worse than Campbell at interviewing.
If Mike Hoskings got a haircut, or Paul Henry managed to keep his feet out of his mouth for more than a week, maybe TVNZ would have paid either of them enough to keep Close Up from sinking, and we wouldnt have to deal with the current drivel like 7sharp and 3rd degree. There are no credible personalities out there. |
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Good take on it all from Russell Brown
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16th August 2013, 21:41 | #27 |
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Key is quite brilliant really. But that's not news by a long shot. When he was making millions on currency speculation or whatever money system it was he was wrangling, that's when it was news.
I think GCSB is complete bollocks, dangerous and against the values of NZers. But I suspect we'll get by and eventually get a government more sensitive to these values who hopefully will tidy things up, much like Aunty Helen did when she came in.
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16th August 2013, 21:44 | #28 |
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I suppose Key has sat at the table with the big boys and girls too, you know, folk with real power. JC and mere kiwis wouldn't phase him at all.
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16th August 2013, 22:25 | #29 |
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Key isn't desperate to be PM, he's not in it for the power, he's an ordinary bloke who happens to be very smart and capable. He doesn't seem to have to try very hard and that's what shits a lot of people. How hard can it be to make missions speculating on currency eh?
Personally I think he's a bit soft, but Campbell is just an internet conspiracy made for prime time while the actual opposition flounder amongst themselves. Have you heard much of Joyce sparring with facts or off the cuff? Simon Power heir apparent got out of the game but they still have enough guns to see off the rest while coasting through... |
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17th August 2013, 07:27 | #31 |
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17th August 2013, 13:44 | #33 |
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Probably to be fair to Campbell, JK has access to a lot better resources than TV3 in preparation for the interview. I mean, hasn't the whole organisation been struggling for viability for awhile now?
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17th August 2013, 14:28 | #34 |
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The fuck? TV3 is a media company. Campbell's job is to interview people who don't want to give straight answers. The topic was something that Campbell has focused on to the exclusion of almost everything else for weeks. It was an interview that Campbell has been trying to make happen for weeks. To then say "oh, he wasn't prepared" is just butthurt.
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17th August 2013, 14:47 | #35 |
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I'm speculating, I'm well on record for having no particular love for JC. I just wonder how pressurised the work environment at TV3 is at the moment. I suspect they're caught between trying to do quality journalism and getting the right numbers.
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17th August 2013, 15:10 | #36 |
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Lightspeed your last four posts reek of passive aggressive schmooze, it's horrible reading.
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17th August 2013, 16:17 | #37 |
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This whole affair reeks of passive aggressive schmooze. I don't mean to be having a go at anyone on the forum if that's what you mean though.
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19th August 2013, 20:27 | #38 |
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Campbell live or Bart's people? Who knows...
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20th August 2013, 01:17 | #39 |
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1. http://www.3news.co.nz/Campbell-Live...1/Default.aspx
2. http://www.3news.co.nz/Big-crowd-for...3/Default.aspx 3. http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Key-wal...#ixzz2cPdMSFs5 All of a sudden Key isn't looking so hot. |
20th August 2013, 07:58 | #40 |
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TBH i think anyway he spins it, the media are not gonna let go of the idea that he is spying on us and reading all our emails. trying to push this through at the same time the whole NSA thing in america is blowing up is truly atrocious timing
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