Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Bill - Page 13

Delphinus · 5th September 2011, 19:56

http://lancewiggs.com/2011/09/04/the...e-not-lawyers/

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There have been suspiciously few (none recorded) notices from the MPAA (or NZFACT) to alleged copyright infringers in New Zealand since the law came into effect this week. Perhaps the tsunami is to come, or maybe they are waiting to pick the perfect case.

Fx. · 6th September 2011, 07:46

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Originally Posted by Cyberbob

It was in reply to Fx who said they'd only be watching torrents :P

yeah but usenet isnt p2p so the only way they'd know was by going after usenet providers first?

hmmm

Pimp-X · 6th September 2011, 08:26

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Originally Posted by StN

Hey Mr-X - are the tubes less cluttered these days?

Just had another look at this. As much as you have to creatively interpret diurnal waverings day to day, it would appear that overall bandwidth demand has step-functioned by a few percent downward around the start of spring...

StN · 6th September 2011, 08:30

The Government should use this decrease in demand to justify spending more on fibre rollout!

StN · 6th September 2011, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

http://There have been suspiciously ... perfect case.

Or maybe, just maybe, part of the deal was that the MPAA/NZFACT wait until after the election...

Ab · 6th September 2011, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Fx.

yeah but usenet isnt p2p so the only way they'd know was by going after usenet providers first?

hmmm

THE FIRST RULE OF USENET IS

crocos · 6th September 2011, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Ab

THE FIRST RULE OF USENET IS

Talk about http download services instead?

CCS · 6th September 2011, 14:44

crocos · 6th September 2011, 15:03

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Originally Posted by Ab

THE FIRST RULE OF USENET IS

What the heck are you talking about? I've never heard of this usenet thingamee. Why would you even talk about such a boring irrelevant nothing of a service?

xor · 6th September 2011, 15:46

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

http://lancewiggs.com/2011/09/04/the...e-not-lawyers/
There have been suspiciously few (none recorded) notices from the MPAA (or NZFACT) to alleged copyright infringers in New Zealand since the law came into effect this week. Perhaps the tsunami is to come, or maybe they are waiting to pick the perfect case.

They need to send the notice within 21 days from what I've been advised. Could be wrong, meh. Have a coke etc etc

crocos · 6th September 2011, 15:57

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Originally Posted by xor

They need to send the notice within 21 days from what I've been advised. Could be wrong, meh. Have a coke etc etc

Within 21 days of the incident occurring, yep.

Caesar · 6th September 2011, 16:25

I wonder if when the first case comes out they (Copyright holders) will use to "set an example" of what they will do, as a scare tactic.

Ya see it happen all the time in lawyer TV shows

Fx. · 6th September 2011, 17:19

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Originally Posted by crocos

What the heck are you talking about? I've never heard of this usenet thingamee. Why would you even talk about such a boring irrelevant nothing of a service?

its a great way to keep up to date with the latest news, thats what we're talking about downloading here init?

Spink · 24th September 2011, 23:19

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Originally Posted by crocos

Within 21 days of the incident occurring, yep.

Has it been 21 days yet?

StN · 25th September 2011, 09:18

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Originally Posted by Spink

Has it been 21 days yet?

The election hasn't happened yet...

drone · 25th September 2011, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Spink

Has it been 21 days yet?

Yes, it is well past the 21 day limit on an infringement claim, since notices were able to be sent from Sep 1 for any claim up to 21 days old at that point (ie, August 11).

crocos · 26th September 2011, 12:37

If I were the evil overlord behind this bill:

First phase - intimidate people into not pirating as much.
Well given that the internet volumes dropped, I think it's probably mission accomplished as far as that's concerned.

Stage two when traffic has increased a bit and before the review date, start enforcing notices; Complain bitterly about the unreasonable cost of the notices.

Kryten · 26th September 2011, 12:47

They've not been shy in complaining about the cost of notices already. Tech Liberty has an interesting piece on what the rights holders might be up to, but so far not much has been made public that can confirm if there's any truth to what's mentioned.

http://techliberty.org.nz/rights-hol...notice-system/

PhX · 26th September 2011, 15:45

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Originally Posted by creamcheese

Has anyone used these guys?

http://boxslots.com/seedboxes.php

A workmate has set one up, nice web interface for adding torrents and FTP downloading, goes well enough.

All seems a bit too easy though....

They dont do seedboxes anymore, anyone else have one? Could go the vps route however prob a bit of an overkill. I just chatted too their support, top notch

if i cant find a seedbox ill go with boxslots for a vps

cyc · 26th September 2011, 17:21

Try Feralhosting.com

Macca@Work · 28th September 2011, 15:38

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/...le-sharing-act

"While making a security-themed presentation on the new Copyright (Infringing File-Sharing) Amendment Act in Wellington, lawyer Michael Wigley was brief beyond the expectations of his audience.

If you are the account holder for an organisation running a network, he says, there are two things you can do to protect yourself from penalties under the Act. “Get all your IP addresses from APNIC [the Asia-Pacific Network Information Centre] or stop all peer-to-peer traffic,” he said. “That’s my talk, thank you very much.”

As APNIC is an overseas organisation rather than a local ISP, it will not be obliged by the law to act on a request made by a content owner (typically a music publisher or film company) about allegedly copy-right-infringing downloads or uploads, Wigley said, elaborating on his simple message."

Whiplash · 1st November 2011, 13:34

Serves them right for listening to Rihanna anyway.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=10763131

Rince · 2nd November 2011, 13:42

they were talking about this on the wireless (Hauraki) this morning.... cracking up at being busted for crap music

Rince · 18th November 2011, 08:46

the Yanks' proposed bill is even worse:
http://graphjam.memebase.com/2011/11...up-your-tubes/

eep

mr selfdestruct · 20th November 2011, 22:59

sooooo anyone been served yet?

Caesar · 21st May 2012, 16:36

Now what part of this is not utterly fucken retarded.

RIAA wants 72Trillion from Limewire

A Corpse · 21st May 2012, 18:43

To take your question literally, everything except the dollar amount.

Deadmeat · 5th July 2012, 18:49

xpandnz · 5th July 2012, 18:58

A Corpse · 23rd October 2012, 11:11

One of the first few attempted prosecutions gets dropped.

http://techliberty.org.nz/rianz-with...ight-tribunal/

Lightspeed · 23rd October 2012, 13:17

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4. If you get a second warning notice, cancel your account with that ISP and switch to a new one. This will reset the count.

Hahah, that's awesome.

Lightspeed · 12th January 2013, 20:59

It will be interesting to see how this goes...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dail...est-at-hearing

aR Que · 12th January 2013, 21:14

any able to tell me:
Max penalty / Fine for stealing an album from the warehouse &
Max Penalty / Fine for pirating an album from the net.

wazza · 12th January 2013, 21:21

If found guilty?
I reckon a $150 fine

Why are people stealing music when you can get unlimited music for circa USD$10/month

Diirk · 14th January 2013, 17:17

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Originally Posted by aR Que

any able to tell me:
Max penalty / Fine for stealing an album from the warehouse &
Max Penalty / Fine for pirating an album from the net.

When you pirate stuff from the net (over p2p), they sting you for the uploads. Eg 1000 uploads while seeding x $20 = $20000 fine.

6th September 2011, 14:44	#488
CCS Stunt Pants	__________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

2nd November 2011, 13:42	#503
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	they were talking about this on the wireless (Hauraki) this morning.... cracking up at being busted for crap music __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

18th November 2011, 08:46	#504
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	the Yanks' proposed bill is even worse: http://graphjam.memebase.com/2011/11...up-your-tubes/ eep __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

20th November 2011, 22:59	#505
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	sooooo anyone been served yet? __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

21st May 2012, 18:43	#507
A Corpse talkative lurker	To take your question literally, everything except the dollar amount. __________________ Broke my addiction! Bye bye Eve, hello Minecraft. Wait... >_<

6th September 2011, 08:30	#484
StN I have detailed files	The Government should use this decrease in demand to justify spending more on fibre rollout!

6th September 2011, 16:25	#492
Caesar	I wonder if when the first case comes out they (Copyright holders) will use to "set an example" of what they will do, as a scare tactic. Ya see it happen all the time in lawyer TV shows

26th September 2011, 12:37	#497
crocos	If I were the evil overlord behind this bill: First phase - intimidate people into not pirating as much. Well given that the internet volumes dropped, I think it's probably mission accomplished as far as that's concerned. Stage two when traffic has increased a bit and before the review date, start enforcing notices; Complain bitterly about the unreasonable cost of the notices. __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

26th September 2011, 12:47	#498
Kryten	They've not been shy in complaining about the cost of notices already. Tech Liberty has an interesting piece on what the rights holders might be up to, but so far not much has been made public that can confirm if there's any truth to what's mentioned. http://techliberty.org.nz/rights-hol...notice-system/

26th September 2011, 17:21	#500
cyc Objection!	Try Feralhosting.com

28th September 2011, 15:38	#501
Macca@Work	http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/...le-sharing-act "While making a security-themed presentation on the new Copyright (Infringing File-Sharing) Amendment Act in Wellington, lawyer Michael Wigley was brief beyond the expectations of his audience. If you are the account holder for an organisation running a network, he says, there are two things you can do to protect yourself from penalties under the Act. “Get all your IP addresses from APNIC [the Asia-Pacific Network Information Centre] or stop all peer-to-peer traffic,” he said. “That’s my talk, thank you very much.” As APNIC is an overseas organisation rather than a local ISP, it will not be obliged by the law to act on a request made by a content owner (typically a music publisher or film company) about allegedly copy-right-infringing downloads or uploads, Wigley said, elaborating on his simple message."

1st November 2011, 13:34	#502
Whiplash Bobo Fettish	Serves them right for listening to Rihanna anyway. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=10763131

21st May 2012, 16:36	#506
Caesar	Now what part of this is not utterly fucken retarded. RIAA wants 72Trillion from Limewire

5th July 2012, 18:58	#509
xpandnz	__________________ asghasdhoaidhoqhdoqjwod;asdadas

23rd October 2012, 11:11	#510
A Corpse talkative lurker	One of the first few attempted prosecutions gets dropped. http://techliberty.org.nz/rianz-with...ight-tribunal/ __________________ Broke my addiction! Bye bye Eve, hello Minecraft. Wait... >_<

12th January 2013, 20:59	#512
Lightspeed	It will be interesting to see how this goes... http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dail...est-at-hearing __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

12th January 2013, 21:14	#513
aR Que	any able to tell me: Max penalty / Fine for stealing an album from the warehouse & Max Penalty / Fine for pirating an album from the net.

12th January 2013, 21:21	#514
wazza flex	If found guilty? I reckon a $150 fine Why are people stealing music when you can get unlimited music for circa USD$10/month