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22nd April 2014, 19:03 | #1 |
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Holy crap Shane Jones has jumped the sinking ship!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11242350 |
22nd April 2014, 19:10 | #2 |
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Shane Jones takes the option that doesn't involve having to campaign or, you know, work. In other news sky found to be blue.
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22nd April 2014, 19:21 | #3 |
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Jumped or pushed?
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22nd April 2014, 19:39 | #4 |
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The Labour Party can't stand Jones. The sisterhood have never forgiven him for the porn videos episode because porn is rape. He's a masculine hetero male with a business background who supports mineral exploration. He's a great speaker and has done nothing but make his Leader look like an ineffectual limpdick all year. Through his "Aussie supermarkets" campaign Jones is - was - the only senior Labour MP to get positive media attention and look like he was doing anything for the country.
Jones was Labour's strongest performer and was Labour's strongest connection to the Maori community. His departure isn't a surprise, but if he was pushed out that's Labour reaching a whole new level of retarded muppetry. |
22nd April 2014, 20:19 | #5 |
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I doubt he was pushed - he's smart enough to know that once Cunliffe was on the spot and stumbling that he was better off looking out for himself. His campaign against the supermarkets was the perfect last impression in the public eye.
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23rd April 2014, 09:24 | #6 | |
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23rd April 2014, 09:39 | #7 |
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I think Jones was a bit of a double edged sword.
On the one hand he was all about himself (and hence why "the leadership has a bit to do with his leaving), inconsistent in his performance (since the leadership challenge he has been awesome), and generally disruptive to Labour trying to look unified. But on the other hand this play by my own rules say what I wanna say image appealed to some people and so I reckon there will be an initial few points drop in the polls for Labour. Will be interesting to see how Kelvin Davis goes.
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Sir Wira Gardiner secretly donates to Jones's leadership campaign. Murray McCully informally sounds Jones out as to whether or not Jones really wants to spend another three years on the Opposition benches with a bunch of pakeha unionists, gay-rights activists, and tree-hugging hippies who hate him and hints that a high-level government job focused on Pacific economic development with a resources-slash-fisheries angle may soon be created if the right candidate could be found. Jones sees the writing on the hull and jumps from the sinking Good Ship Labour, which means that the next candidate off the Labour List gets tapped for a return to Parliament and oh ho ho guess who it is - Kelvin Davis. Kelvin Davis, a by-all-accounts bright talented hetero Maori male who got shafted by the sisterhood for being a bright talented hetero Maori male and who got given an embarrassingly low list position before the last election and who lost his job as a result. Being a lowly-ranked List MP who has already once been fucked by the party Kelvin Davis will feel like his hetero male testicles are on a table next to a pile of hammers unless he can win an electorate seat, and his home seat is oh ho ho it gets even better TAI TOKERAU. Which means to have any sort of job security Davis has to defeat Hone Harawira in an electorate race, which means Kelvin Davis has to knock the Mana Party and its parasite Kim Dotcom Party completely out of NZ politics and deprive the Labour Party of an entire coalition partner. Having a bright talented hetero Maori male running on the left in Tai Tokerau means that Harawira and Dotcom will be put under a fucking microscope during the election which is something I'm guessing neither of them want to happen. And this is all now a lot easier for Davis because he's now back in parliament because Shane Jones retired after being offered a job by Murray McCully, and being back in parliament means he gets to run this knock-off-Harawira Tai Tokerau electorate campaign with parliamentary funding. Possible outcomes: 1. Kelvin Davis runs a good campaign with support from Labour and defeats Harawira in Tai Tokerau. Mana Party out of Parliament. National laughs. 2. Kelvin Davis loses Tai Tokerau when he gets hung out to dry AGAIN by Labour which gives him shitty support in his campaign because they want a possible coalition-partner party in Parliament more than they want a bright talented hetero Maori male on their own team. Labour thus confirms that it a) hates heterosexual males and b) hates Maoris all in one go, thus further pigeonholing itself as an extreme-left party. National laughs. If McCully (and let's be honest, he wouldn't have done this himself, so let's include John Key) and National actually foresaw these possible outcomes and specifically targeted Jones in order to make them more likely, they have got serious game. |
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23rd April 2014, 12:36 | #9 |
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Game of Jones
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23rd April 2014, 12:40 | #10 |
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Oh Jones will be Trotskified now. He'll be decried as a traitor, a secret National mole, he'll be getting cropped and airbrushed out of web images, videos will be getting deleted from youtube, you name it, we have always been at war with Shane Jones.
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23rd April 2014, 13:13 | #11 |
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Hahahah.
I personally favour the deep conspiracy angle. John Key has serious dirt on everyone thanks to NSA hookups. Labour is only allowed to softball it in parliament and the media, Shane Jones started pushing too hard so had to go. That's totally it.
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23rd April 2014, 13:39 | #12 |
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However it happened this is a colossal kick in the nuts for Labour. Their top-performing highest-profile best-speaking jobs-focused top Maori just quit. The ONLY positive that comes out of this for Labour is that Cunliffe won't be overshadowed by him any more.
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23rd April 2014, 14:33 | #14 |
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23rd April 2014, 14:43 | #15 |
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Jeez, National has been kinder to Jones in his departure than Labour has. National, caring deeply about the disadvantaged and about lowering unemployment, have even got Jones a job!
Thanks National! \o/
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23rd April 2014, 15:34 | #16 |
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Something was bugging me last week. Shane Jones and Judith Collins do a Thursday morning cross on Radio Live each week. Judith had just been ambushed the night before by a TV3/RadioLive reporter and confronted her about the China visit.
The next moring, she was very humble in her description of what happened, and her position. She was prime for Shane to issue a barrage - and he just sat strangely silent - let her have her say, and basically then said that he had been on that side of things and fully understood her current actions. In the house, Cunliff and his cronies were going to town on her. He didn't even make an utterance. Just a month or so earlier there was a subtle insinuation from Shane (well, not so subtle) that Judith was spending nights at the mansion now owned by a Chinese interest - resulting in a very humble apology. He knew who was buttering his bread. |
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23rd April 2014, 15:55 | #18 |
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lol, shot
I just watched David Cunliffe get fucking destroyed on the Paul Henry Show and I couldn't help but think, oh jesus this guy either doesn't want to win or he and his team really have no clue. This how you dress when you go on television and want people to think of you as a Prime Minister: This is how you dress when you go on television and want people to think of you as a sloppy unprofessional creepy guy: Was he on his way to a seventies party or something? Did the Leader of the Opposition really go on television dressed in a safari suit with an unbuttoned brown shirt? |
23rd April 2014, 16:54 | #19 |
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*snigger*
Well, Goff started the whole 'shirt but no tie' thing for Labour leader, because he's such a man of the people. Shearer continued it but added a gat... Cunliffe... well, he can't play no guitar so he just has to show a lil' tuft of chest hair to show what a Dude he is. Dudely Dudeman Of The People.
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23rd April 2014, 17:18 | #20 | |
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Josie Pagani has some interesting things to say:
Warning to Labour; the heretic hunters are driving people away Quote:
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23rd April 2014, 18:03 | #21 |
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23rd April 2014, 18:17 | #22 |
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^^^
Hilarious. It shows exactly why Pagani is right and also shows how fun it is to watch Labour eat itself.
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23rd April 2014, 19:03 | #23 |
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A scary day has finally arrived: The Green Party is actually saner (albeit just) than Labour at the moment.
And that's not a reflection on how far the Greens have come, but how batshit crazy Labour has gone.
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23rd April 2014, 19:07 | #24 |
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No, the greens are definitely still crazier than Labour. But Labour is far more dysfunctional than the greens.
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23rd April 2014, 19:26 | #25 |
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OK, yes, that is a better way of putting it.
Nats want to lead us into a capitalist dystopia, Greens want to build a bridge to the South Island using cars as the building material, and Lab wants to beat itself up at the slightest excuse.
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24th April 2014, 13:37 | #28 | |
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Besides, most of our current success is historical momentum rather than anyone in current or recent leadership being particularly awesome.
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24th April 2014, 14:01 | #29 | |
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24th April 2014, 14:44 | #30 |
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Metiria Turia feels like one of Jones' shortcomings is that he is prone to letting his emotions get in the way, and I don't think anyone has even mentioned his jackets yet.
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25th April 2014, 10:07 | #32 |
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My response was simply trying to decipher what was originally posted. Having said that if there was to be some sort of strict interpretation of a utopia I feel it would have to be grounded in how social relations become structured within a society. Pixie
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