Evolution

[Trigga*happY]

Ok ok, who dragged up this 13 page monstrosity again =) Start another this is too big to load on my poxy li'l modem

Cheers

T

[FEsTUS]

I'm only posting cause I wanted to be the 521st post..bawhaw....sigh*

Evolution--------------scary shit!

[Fenchurch]

I thought most of our time periods were Babylonian in origin: they were obsessed with 6's and such like. So our week is six and one other.

Which is why minutes re 60 seconds, and hours are 60 minutes, and days are 24 hours...they're all multiples of 6.

[Loonatic]

well seeming everyone else has posted in here, i might as well too

Loon.

[Farmer Joe]

*cough*

[This message has been edited by Farmer Joe (edited 30 August 2000).]

[MadLep]

Saw this link on /.

<a href="http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSScience0008/30_robot.html">Computer makes robot offspring</a> - interesting article. Doesn't proove evolution as such, but it shows that the principle can work.

The programers developed a program that simulated random virtual robots - no structure to begin with, just random. The goal of the program was to develop a virtual robot that could "walk" across a table.

The program did this by natural selection (the same as evolution). The ones that worked progressed, and passed on the features that made them succeed to future versions of the robots, and the ones that failed were discarded.

At the end of it all, a computer controlled machine popped out the final robots to be physically assembled...and they worked.

The beauty of it is that inside the computer program, these things "evolved" with no intervention from the human researchers. The end results are very strange, and not something that a human mind would have easily come up with, but they worked just as efficiently in their environment.

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[MadLep]

<a href="http://golem03.cs-i.brandeis.edu/index.html">Link to the actual research</a> on these robots.

Heh. Cool. You can download a SETI@Home type screensaver to help evolve the robots. And you can download the simulator software to see the robots being evolved on your PC.

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Shameless bump from reading too many EverQuest forums. And i'm bored.

[Uncle Gus]

<font size=5>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?!</font> Now this post will never die!

[MadLep]

Kill it.

Kill it now. Quickly, before the madness takes over again.

This thread is the only threat to slacker domination...
Only evolution can outpost the slackers!
Noooooooo.............

errrr
<font size="7"><strong>PANTS</strong></font>
there. That oughta hold em back for a while.

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[Beer]

Last post!


*gasp!*

[cyberbob2097]

ok! why of why did someone post another message on this thread. not its probabaly gonna go for days

[Surak]

Boof, I'm more likely to beleive Clarke than the Bible mainly because Clarke is just using his imagination, and some of the dude's that wrote the bible, and rewrote the bible, twisted it to their own uses and ideals, to control the masses (Though obviosuly theuy didn't do very well seeing there are more Hindus or Buddists than the Christians). Surely if God is everywhere, listening to your inner voice must be more true than reading someone else's interpretation of the original biblical scriptures.

Actually, I think it was in another of Clarke's books, where he made the point that Buddism is likely to be the longest lasting main religion, because it is a philosophy, not a beleive in a omnipotent being (Budda isn't seen as creator of the universe).

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[Gase]

Nothing exploded into everything?
Magical self organisation?
Something mathematically impossible?

Hmmmm.......

Now if only I had that kind of faith.

Genetic algorithms are cool, I like seeing how clever the creator is when he sets them up

[Mabd]

<font size="6" color="red">PANKS</font>

aaaaarrrghh I am evolving!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude: "Something mathematically impossible?"

Do we know all maths??

[Gase]

All maths? No.
Probability theory - yes.

Many mathematicians don't believe in evolution because of probability theory.

I not particularly interested in arguing any more. People will choose their own religions and refuse to consider anything else. Evolutionism might as well be considered a religion as modern scientific methods cannot be applied to it.

Observability
Repeatability
Able to be refuted (always difficult to understand this one)

[OdditY]

in the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. did i say this a while back?

"Any sufficiently long running debate/argument will inevitably decay into a religious flamewar. or hitler. or (usually) both.

[Boofhead]

Though obviosuly theuy didn't do very well seeing there are more Hindus or Buddists than the Christians

That's interesting... where do you get this information from? I always thought it was the other way around... (note: People have to smuggle Bibles into some countries)

I'd also like to say that the Bible was inspired by God (ref. 2 Timothy 3:16) - and God is not limited by human imagination

[Spink]

I'm sorry but I gotta take the blame for this... I was looking for it for a friend so I told people to bump it to the top for me... can you ever forgive me

[Unclown]

*yawn*

Can someone please summarise for me in a few words what happened between the 4th episode and now?


Cheers

[Master Villain]

Surak: In the hammer of god and ummm the deep range bhuddism (sp) is the global religeon. In the first (Recent) it is a branch sect which is run like a cult thats the main one people follow (From memory here, must buy the book). It's eerily like those sects in the US though, seems to havea lot of money and control over people. In the second book (Written long ago now) it was just the most acceptable religeon I think because it was so moderate and people were weary of the others with their holier than Them Over There. I think he was more looking at the mainstreaming of it in Hammer and the global reaction to religeon over a long period of time in Range. Might be wrong, been a while since I read them.

[Endymion]

I had this pet snake, and I fed it some beer. It was slithering and sliding all over the place.

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[necom]

Gase: There is no proof that we know how to conduct mathematics.

[Yautja]

If only PK had come to that conclusion as quickly as you Gase
(sorry mr sd theres just no good threads around atm )

[This message has been edited by Yautja (edited 28 October 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Yautja (edited 28 October 2000).]

[mr selfdestruct]

Yautja: Fuck up.

[Torak^]

necom - Of course there is, mathematics isn't a natural force or a shining light in the sky, it's something we invented. It's what we tell it to be, so "we" can't be doing it wrong.

[Çã®™åñ]

Moo!

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[necom]

Torak: as you say "so 'we' cant be doing it wrong"
and hence we can never find any rational validity in it.

[cyberbob2097]

bloody hell, i told u this would go on for days now.

[Surak]

Boofhead, I'm basing my comments on the fact that about 2/5 of the world's population live in China and India. And another large chucnk of the world's population live in the rest of asia (Don't know the real figures on this). I've never really seen Asia as a big Christianity base of influence......

Of course, I'm probably wrong, considering how often I'm totally wrong normally

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[Slothking]

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[uTired2]

14 is such a pretty number

[silva^]

complete and utter madness

[703]

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[Surak]

<h1>SLAP HERE</H1>

[Boofhead]

It's just not going to die...
wait I'm keeping it alive just by posting this... argh!!

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[Glacius]

Satan is comign for you !~ !!!

[Skipper]

Grah! It lives! Grah!

[Vanquish]

wobble, my post added

when this topic was first put up i read the first 1 or 2 pages lol 14 now ROFL

[Colossus]

DO NOT TAUNT THE HAPPY FUN BALL.