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6th October 2022, 13:21 | #441 |
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The really crazy bit is the little-known fact that when Lenny Kravitz wrote the lyric "I want to get away" in 1998, the Russian conscriptions hadn't even been announced yet.
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Of course we are all hyper vigilant for national govt and media brainwashing it's own citizens with fake news, and rightly so. Of course this spills over internationally given the internet. But totally tangential to that is wartime propaganda. Literal information warfare. Propaganda has always been a part of war on all sides, directed at all sides. Somehow it feels much more like a valid, acceptable strategy in a war context - if anything it does definitely feel *different* If one is willing to or is forced to break down to physical violent combat, then why should the information landscape not be included if it can advance the same ends. Last edited by _indigo1 : 6th October 2022 at 15:13. |
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6th October 2022, 15:41 | #444 |
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Remember back at the start of the invasion there were all sorts of heroic Ukraine resistance videos that turned out to be in-game clips from Arma 3 and DCS World.
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Former CIA Agent John Stockwell Talks about How the CIA Worked in Vietnam and Elsewhere
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Been going on a loooonnnnng time...
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6th October 2022, 16:48 | #446 |
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What is this in reply to?
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6th October 2022, 16:55 | #447 |
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Your comment, the information war, the propaganda intended for Western audiences.
It was relatively unsophisticated in the 1980's: Spooks provoking civil unrest, planting stories in the press to control how the message is delivered to western audiences. Now its NGOs, foreign aid, thought leadership, and social media training... oh and using snipers to shoot both clans to provoke civil unrest.
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6th October 2022, 16:58 | #448 |
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Ahh ok. Didn't really address what I commented which is why I asked.
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No, I know. Just thought the interview was refreshing. A CIA whistleblower saying world peace or war and public perception is CIA's playground, out enjoying sunshine, on a primetime investigative journalism TV show.
These days if the criticism is right on target with proof the person gets tied up in rape accusations, citizenship revoked, solitary confinement, sexual abuse.
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6th October 2022, 17:50 | #450 |
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or you merely are less hawkish, which gets you added to the Ukrainian hit list by Zelenskyi's head of military PR:
https://twitter.com/arestovych/statu...26215013019648 "We work promptly" Elon Musk suggested diplomatic peace, the reaction to this signals to the rest of us this is wrongthink. "Peace!? We haven't even tested our Israeli / NATO nerve gas or AI weaponry yet!"
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Yeah, and that's credited as why the Nazi's were so able to compel the citizens of occupied regions to their death. The people in charge tell you to do something? You do it.
I think it was this absolutely horrifying episode of The War Against Humanity that made this point: The Rape of Humanity at Babi Yar - War Against Humanity 019 - September 1941 Pt. 2 I don't recommend watching it unless you're feeling particularly resilient.
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7th October 2022, 09:57 | #453 | |
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'We're hunting them down and shooting them like pigs': How the Ukrainians are taking brutal revenge on the collaborators who've betrayed their neighbours - and country - to the Russians
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Yeah, just like Bucha. Amnesty International is going to have to hire more report writers.
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There difference Nich is you have a constant stream of dodgy sources that get you very excited, and I post the occasional thing with a degree of scepticism.
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8th October 2022, 17:24 | #456 |
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There appears to have been an attack (or accident) on the Kerch Strait Bridge, with some sections collapsing. The bridge is a strategically vital link for the Russians to the Crimean Peninsula and a symbol of national pride for them. Interesting days ahead.
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9th October 2022, 02:26 | #459 |
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It sounds like it was a truck bomb. So was that suicide bomber?
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2. Because it depletes our own supplies, and when Russia starts marching across the hard frozen ground of Ukraine, when China starts sailing across to Taiwan NATO will have no dry powder, all our weapons are already twisted metal strewn across Ukraine. All we'll have is a bunch of weapons supply contracts with USA / Israel to be fulfilled by 2030. 3. Biden calls Putin NOW. Make it public. De-escalate. Problem is, Biden has spent his entire career transforming Ukraine from a producer exporter to a consumer importer to provoke Russia. He's finally got the fight he wanted, so god help us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7_8EGf0NE
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Exactly the same play to dismantle Yugoslavia is being used to dismantle Ukraine.
then: -KLA terrorist militia -Putting civilian croatians near towns where KLA was attacking serbian civilians, hoping for a retaliation (they got it, then NATO could drop bombs) -Fake mass graves -"parents naming their babies Madeline [Albright]" propaganda -EU dismantling local industry through bombing, subsidising EU products for import undercutting local product prices, then buying local businesses when they go bust -Yugoslavia turned from producer, to consumer -Debt goes up 10x, then they need loans to pay existing debt... now: -AZOV battalion -Attacking Donbass and ethnic Russians hoping for retaliation (they got it) -fake mass graves -parents naming their children "Javelin", "javelina" because they love the anti-tank weapon. Propaganda -EU turning Ukraine from a producer exporter to a consumer importer (Ukraine went from coal exporter pre-2014, to coal importer (USA coal) post-2014) -Debt debt debt ...
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9th October 2022, 16:42 | #466 |
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9th October 2022, 22:01 | #472 |
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You said yourself that you're glad CIA are involved behind the scenes in Ukraine, because of how capable they are. Do you think -- after 70 years of cultivating a fascist Nazi regime in Ukraine to use as a battering ram against Russia -- that they have failed?
That's a rhetorical question, I see no value engaging with you on this.
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9th October 2022, 22:18 | #473 |
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So what was the value of your comment? More dopamine?
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10th October 2022, 15:04 | #474 |
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Oh god the Sam Hyde meme has mated with the bridge bombing and people are falling for it
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11th October 2022, 00:59 | #477 | |
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How it started:
The US Is Antagonizing Russia in Ukraine (Michael Hudson, 2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E-EoOkLF_g How it's going: Quote:
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11th October 2022, 07:33 | #478 |
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Nich get back on the Thorazine.
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What I observe, Ajax, is you have a clear preference to witness the atrocities of Russia without acknowledging that Ukraine government / army is smeared with shit also. The difference is the Ukranazi shitheads are all over Tik Tok, Twitter openly uploading videos of dipping bullets in pig fat, loading civilian bodies into mass graves, urinating on dead soldiers, cooking severed heads in pots, maintaining a kill list of journalists.
The difference is, my tax-payer dollars are supporting and prolonging this conflict (Bush Masters, lol) and I don't support either side but I sure as hell DO NOT support a CIA-created nazi fascist regime that hunts down civilians like pigs, rapes them, then loads them into mass graves. Then the news agencies of the world write about it happening, but it's ... celebrating (DailyMail UK), and the justification is that supposedly Russia is just as bad in this war, according to Ukrainian officials? Well, if Ukraine would actually let Amnesty International on site we'd be able to confirm that. Amnesty International already found that Ukraine is committing war crimes based on it's military positioning alone, to which Ukraine responded by keeping them out. Shame on anyone who hoists the Ukraine flag cleerleading the Ukraine government and army. Idiots. EXPOSED: Before Ukraine blew up Kerch Bridge, British spies plotted it https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/u...-kerch-bridge/ Quote:
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Keep in mind that thegreyzone has a "Low" MBFC Credibility Rating and "Mixed" factual reporting, both in line with Fox News, and only a smidge above Daily Mail.
As for who checks the checkers, that's as deep as I go. Feel free to go all inception on this shit.
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