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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:09     #2401
Redneck
 
So basically, watch some Gordon Ramsay.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:11     #2402
Haydos
 
No, Gordon Ramsay would more than likely serve an eye fillet in a Beef Wellington, drizzled with gravy and sided with greens.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:12     #2403
Redneck
 
That's one way he might serve it, he also does exactly what you said.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:18     #2404
Haydos
 
Doubtful, he never cooks with butter, nor does he season his meat with anything but salt. He uses all his seasoning in the sauce.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:21     #2405
Redneck
 
Looks like you've got a lot of The F Word to watch
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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:31     #2406
Redneck
 
Actually now that I think about it, we're both right - he does cook steak with butter, but not with herbs.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:47     #2407
Hazmat
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Light oil in the bottom of an extremely hot pan. Sear one side and cook for a further 15-20 seconds, then turn and place a small knob of butter on the cooked side.
Cook for a further 30 seconds or so (adjust times depending on the thickness of the cut and preferred "doneness"). Leave to rest on a cutting board or plate until no more juices are seeping from the bottom of the steak.

Straight from the F-Word a few weeks ago. I was quite surprised to see Gordon using butter for cooking too, which is why it stuck in my memory.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 13:57     #2408
Mickey
 
He uses butter a lot. On his weekly show (not the F word), he was scrfeaming at someone to start again and there was a massive tub of butter she was scraping it out of.

Butter cooking is the best. Tastes so much nicer.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 14:44     #2409
xor
 
Looks like a lot of foodies in here, maybe there should be a cooking forum or something?
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Old 23rd August 2008, 14:57     #2410
Haydos
 
I never watch F Word, worthwhile? I've only seen his stuff on Hell Kitchen.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 15:07     #2411
Hazmat
I Like Toast
 
Quote:
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I never watch F Word, worthwhile? I've only seen his stuff on Hell Kitchen.
It's very worthwhile. Hell's Kitchen is Gordon yelling.
F-Word is Gordon cooking.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 15:07     #2412
Word
 
Hells kitchen doesn't show him cooking much. Just swearing and putting others down.

He puts rosemary with his steak while in the oven, but then it depends on the recipe.
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Old 23rd August 2008, 17:26     #2413
Helious
 
The F Word fucking owns if you want to learn a thing or two about cooking.
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Old 24th August 2008, 08:16     #2414
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I dropped into the paint shop yesterday, and a series of events nearly had me pissing myself. As I wandered in, the paint dude said "Hi" and asked if there was anything he could help with. He was a youngish chap, dressed all in black, with a black single breasted jacket on over black stovepipes, possibly winkle pickers, and long black hair. Not your normal Resene Colour consultant, but nice enough. So I picked my paint, and he mixed in the tonal variants I needed. Then he moved to the hand crank mixing thing, and that's when I nearly lost it. If his hair was blonde, and not black, it would have looked just like that scene from Rocky Horror, where Riff Raff is turning the red wheel thingy.
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Old 24th August 2008, 10:55     #2415
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it would have looked just like that scene from Rocky Horror, where Riff Raff is turning the red wheel thingy.
lol!

"Throw open the switches on the sonic oscillator!"

I used to love watching that movie as a kid - I never realised how bizarre it was.
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Old 24th August 2008, 11:42     #2416
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I've got the flu, and this morning picked up some Sudafed from the chemist. Taking a look at the box, I see they've actually sold me Sudafed PE, which has phenylephedrine instead of pseudoephedrine. Phenyl is a poor cousin of pseudo, and recent studies suggest it doesn't work as a decongestant at all!

I realise this has come about because of NZ's meth problem, but it would be nice to have the option of buying medication that's not just snake oil. Anyone know if pseudo-based products are still available over the counter?
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Old 24th August 2008, 12:32     #2417
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M0f0s are sissy with their need for flu medication

Who even gets sick?

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Old 24th August 2008, 12:33     #2418
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Who even gets sick?
Me
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Old 24th August 2008, 12:43     #2419
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Does Codral still have the psuedo in it?
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Old 24th August 2008, 12:54     #2420
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Nyet: Not the OTC one anyway.
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Old 24th August 2008, 13:55     #2421
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Old 24th August 2008, 14:19     #2422
Baal
 
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Who even gets sick?
People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.
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Old 24th August 2008, 14:27     #2423
crocos
 
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People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.
I've tried it twice: Got full-on flu almost immediately after both times, decided never making THAT mistake again.
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Old 24th August 2008, 14:27     #2424
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Flu vaccination makes sense for oldies and very youngies I think, but for your average healthy person, it's seems pretty dumb. Then again, I am not sure what percentage of people are really that healthy.
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Old 24th August 2008, 14:28     #2425
Ajax
Architeuthis
 
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Who even gets sick?
Internet Tough Guys certainly don't!
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Old 24th August 2008, 14:28     #2426
crocos
 
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Flu vaccination makes sense for oldies and very youngies I think, but for your average healthy person, it's seems pretty dumb. Then again, I am not sure what percentage of people are really that healthy.
Heh - not me
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Old 24th August 2008, 15:25     #2427
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People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.
strange. 4 years running with flu jabs and I haven't had the flu in that time.
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Old 24th August 2008, 15:32     #2428
Baal
 
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strange. 4 years running with flu jabs and I haven't had the flu in that time.
Yeah my above statement obviously has no real grounding (given the sheer amount of factors that may contribute to someone getting sick/not), maybe I'd give it a try if I got sick, but I honestly can't remember the last time I had flu/sickness, so if it isn't broke etc.

I'd say it's probably down to genetics (and possibly age becomg a factor later) more than anything else. My family in general is always disgustingly healthy.
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Old 24th August 2008, 15:43     #2429
Dan
 
/facepalm

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People that inject themselves with flu virus every year seem to get sick a lot. I've never seen the point myself.
Influenza immunization improves immunity against influenza viruses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza). It doesn't make any difference to other viruses or pathogens e.g. "colds" that people get.
Edit: Having said that people that get sick a lot are probably more likely to get the flu, either because they're coming in contact with more people likely to be infected (schools/kids in large numbers in close contact etc)


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I've tried it twice: Got full-on flu almost immediately after both times, decided never making THAT mistake again.
You can't get the flu from the vaccine. Chances are you a) got a cold afterwards, called it "the flu", and attributed it to the vaccine, b) were unlucky and got infected by a strain that wasn't included in that years vaccine.


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Flu vaccination makes sense for oldies and very youngies I think, but for your average healthy person, it's seems pretty dumb. Then again, I am not sure what percentage of people are really that healthy.
Chances are if you're exposed to the influenza virus, whether you're "healthy" or not, if you haven't got anti-bodies to that strain (i.e. had it before, or had a vaccination), you're going to get it. Flu =! cold. If you get a serious bout of the flu you'll see the point of the vaccine. Cold = runny nose, sore throat, can keep on doing stuff. Flu = fever, aching, exhaustion, can't do shit for 10 days.

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Old 24th August 2008, 15:59     #2430
crocos
 
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You can't get the flu from the vaccine. Chances are you a) got a cold afterwards, called it "the flu", and attributed it to the vaccine, b) were unlucky and got infected by a strain that wasn't included in that years vaccine.
More likely b) then as it was the aching/fever/exhausted/generally more of a useless cunt then normal. But given how soon after I started getting symptoms, I suspect that it will have had something to do with it - even if just weakening my system while the jab was integrating itself to get antibody production kicked off.

Interestingly though I haven't had those symptoms in the 5 years since I last had a flu jab... <shrug>
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Old 24th August 2008, 16:21     #2431
Golden Teapot
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You can't get the flu from the vaccine.
Of course. However, there are so many uneducatable people, that it's always possible to find countless individuals who will fight-to-the-death whilst claiming they got the flu from the vaccine.
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Old 24th August 2008, 16:32     #2432
Baal
 
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Influenza immunization improves immunity against influenza viruses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza). It doesn't make any difference to other viruses or pathogens e.g. "colds" that people get.
Ta for the link, I was totally unaware that some viruses are not other viruses.

While you could construe my post above as associating flu jabs with getting sick I'm really more interested in why some people just don't seem to get sick often.

Your point about being around sick or sheer volumes of people (esp. kids) is a good one. That said I know people who work day in day out around all kinds of contagious illnesses and they don't seem to fall ill often if at all.

*shrug*
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Old 24th August 2008, 18:11     #2433
Draco T Bastard
 
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You can't get the flu from the vaccine.
http://www.wisegeek.com/how-does-a-vaccine-work.htm
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Originally Posted by article
In their altered states, vaccine pathogens are typically safe and unable to cause disease.
The operative word is typically, there is a small chance that by being injected with the vaccine you will actually get the full blown disease.
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Old 24th August 2008, 18:42     #2434
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The operative word is typically, there is a small chance that by being injected with the vaccine you will actually get the full blown disease.
The injected form of the flu vaccine is inactivated (contains killed virus) and cannot possibly give you flu. Vaccines with attenuated (live) viruses may be a different story.

http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/index...a-seasonal-faq
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Old 24th August 2008, 19:24     #2435
Draco T Bastard
 
I didn't realise that we had become perfect recently.
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Old 24th August 2008, 20:00     #2436
Ajax
Architeuthis
 
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I didn't realise that we had become perfect recently.
Careful, you're straying into crackpot territory.
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Old 24th August 2008, 20:20     #2437
Lightspeed
 
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Chances are if you're exposed to the influenza virus, whether you're "healthy" or not, if you haven't got anti-bodies to that strain (i.e. had it before, or had a vaccination), you're going to get it.
So why do I get sick less often than those I live/work with? I don't take any special precautions with hygiene.

I seem to get infected by the cold or flu much less than those around me.
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Old 24th August 2008, 21:12     #2438
Ab
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Little things make a huge difference - washing your hands before eating, for example.
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Old 24th August 2008, 21:20     #2439
Draco T Bastard
 
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Careful, you're straying into crackpot territory.
Just pointing out that there's a small chance that you can get the flue even from vaccines that have dead viruses in them. Viruses are notoriously hard to kill.
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Old 24th August 2008, 21:50     #2440
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Little things make a huge difference - washing your hands before eating, for example.
What if you *dont* keep things super hygienic... therefore building up your immunity?
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