Has war started with Iran?

[CCS]

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Curious to know what you think of the situation in Syria atm.

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[madmaxii]

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[Deadmeat]

Maybe that's it. Israel and Iran should just fuck and get it out of their systems.

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[Ajax]

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How about this outrageous conspiratorial scenario:

1. US drone 'malfunctions' over Iran
2. Iran takes the bait
3. US: "Give it back please"
4. Iran: "Dreamin', you were spying on us. We're selling it to China."
5. US: "This is an outrage. WAR!"

*dons tinfoil hat*

[Cyberbob]

They've gone to war for less..

"Iraq.. incredible weapons - incredible weapons." How do you know that? "Uh, well...we looked at the receipts."”

[Draco T Bastard]

War on Iran has already begun. Act before it threatens all of us

Last month the Guardian was told by British defence ministry officials that if the US brought forward plans to attack Iran (as they believed it might), it would "seek, and receive, UK military help", including sea and air support and permission to use the ethnically cleansed British island colony of Diego Garcia.

Whether the officials' motive was to soften up public opinion for war or warn against it, this was an extraordinary admission: the Britain military establishment fully expects to take part in an unprovoked US attack on Iran – just as it did against Iraq eight years ago.

ATM, The US is probably seeing if it can find a good enough excuse.

[xor]

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

They've gone to war for less..

"Iraq.. incredible weapons - incredible weapons." How do you know that? "Uh, well...we looked at the receipts."”

"...But as soon as that check clears, we're goin' in. What time's the bank open? Eight? We're going in at nine. We're going in for God and country and democracy and here's a fetus and he's a Hitler. Whatever you fucking need, let's go. Get motivated behind this, let's go!"

Bill Hicks is my religion.

[Wally Simmonds]

Based on what I've seen out of the American administration thus far, I don't think they want to do anything of the sort. If anything happens, it'll be because of Iran or Israel, and possibly Syria.

[Jodi]

Originally Posted by Jodi

I would just radio jam it's control signals, and hijack the GPS signals so you can control where it goes when it flies on autopilot.

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Originally Posted by GM

That simple huh.

Originally Posted by tor

If you could do that I think you would just hijack the drone controls.

Originally Posted by blur^

bullshit they hijacked it

Originally Posted by GM

So you read an article on slashdot and its simpler than hacking the control panel, add a few russkies and we're pretty much finished here.

Thanks man, I'll definitely turn to you when I need advice on international conflicts and remote acquisition of military hardware - don't go far though dude, there's a chance we may need you, but keep that on the down low if you know what I mean.

FUCK YOU CUNTS, I WAS RIGHT!

US Sentinel Drone Fooled Into Landing With GPS Spoofing

[Lightspeed]

Hahahah.

[blur^]

Originally Posted by Jodi

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FUCK YOU CUNTS, I WAS RIGHT!

US Sentinel Drone Fooled Into Landing With GPS Spoofing

er nope, its pretty much what i posted
they broad freq jammed it so it lost its control signal and then it tried to autopilot home

now the iranians claim they spoofed the gps and the americans say it malfunctioned either way it landed somewhere it wasnt supposed to

IMO thats not hijacking/hacking/taking it over and flying it themselves
which is what they originally claimed?

[tor]

Originally Posted by Jodi

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FUCK YOU CUNTS, I WAS RIGHT!

US Sentinel Drone Fooled Into Landing With GPS Spoofing

That's fucked. I thought the GPS would surely have an identifier in it to prevent exactly that. Sheesh.

[Jodi]

Originally Posted by tor

That's fucked. I thought the GPS would surely have an identifier in it to prevent exactly that. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by CS Monitor Article

"GPS signals are weak and can be easily outpunched [overridden] by poorly controlled signals from television towers, devices such as laptops and MP3 players, or even mobile satellite services," Andrew Dempster, a professor from the University of New South Wales School of Surveying and Spatial Information Systems, told a March conference on GPS vulnerability in Australia.

Originally Posted by CS Monitor Article

In 2003, a “Vulnerability Assessment Team” at Los Alamos National Laboratory published research explaining how weak GPS signals were easily overwhelmed with a stronger local signal.

“A more pernicious attack involves feeding the GPS receiver fake GPS signals so that it believes it is located somewhere in space and time that it is not,”

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middl...ineer/(page)/1

[GM]

Originally Posted by Jodi

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FUCK YOU CUNTS, I WAS RIGHT!

You retard.

[GM]

Originally Posted by Jodi

Pffft,

I would just radio jam it's control signals, and hijack the GPS signals so you can control where it goes when it flies on autopilot.

So you mean to say that you came up with this idea all by yourself?

[madmaxii]

Fuck GM, you don't like to be proved wrong do you.

[Ajax]

The source for Jodi's article is an Iranian military engineer, it's not exactly rock solid proof.

[GM]

The lolworthy part of it is that Jodi never came up with idea at all, he simply parroted an article he saw and then claimed he knew what he was talking about.

Only fuckwits do this.

[tor]

Originally Posted by Jodi

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For civilian stuff sure that wouldn't surprise me. For military stuff that is intended to be used for spying and is almost guaranteed to have active attacks made on it? I'd have thought a basic system which makes sure the incoming information is not just blindly trusted.

Even if there is no tech on it worth protecting the capture proves you were spying.

[madmaxii]

Ok GM - you know he "Parroted an article"? Prove it. Maybe, given the industry in which he works, he deduced the answer from the facts available. I suspect he knows a fuck lot more than you do about the subject in question

[Jodi]

Originally Posted by Ajax

The source for Jodi's article is an Iranian military engineer, it's not exactly rock solid proof.

Ajax attacks article by disputing sources - good.

Originally Posted by GM

The lolworthy part of it is that Jodi never came up with idea at all, he simply parroted an article he saw and then claimed he knew what he was talking about.

Only fuckwits do this.

GM attacks article by ad hominem attack - fail.

Yes, I came up with the idea all by myself using my technical knowledge, lazily using /. as a source to back up technical points. I find it amusing that you think it's impossible for more than one person to come up with an idea independently.

All I did was posit an hypothesis, get mocked by NZGames, then have that hypothesis validated (somewhat) by the international community a short while later. I really don't understand all your hating GM.

[GM]

It astounds me that you're still trying to defend the fact that you parroted a couple of generalized statements from an article and then pretended you're some kind of gps hacking genius that can take down stealth military drones.

[GM]

Originally Posted by madmaxii

Ok GM - you know he "Parroted an article"? Prove it. Maybe, given the industry in which he works, he deduced the answer from the facts available. I suspect he knows a fuck lot more than you do about the subject in question

Ha ha, that got a laugh out of me too.

[GM]

Originally Posted by Jodi

All I did was posit an hypothesis, get mocked by NZGames, then have that hypothesis validated (somewhat) by the international community a short while later. I really don't understand all your hating GM.

I'm sorry but I can't let this slide either. You're now claiming your 'hypothesis' has been validated by the international community??

Ah hahaha

What next dude, perhaps a nobel peace prize nomination? maybe you're going to tell us how to hijack a military satellite, in a sentence.

[CCS]

Originally Posted by Jodi

All I did was posit an hypothesis, get mocked by NZGames, then have that hypothesis validated (somewhat) by the international community a short while later. I really don't understand all your hating GM.

Getting mocked by nzgames is an important and necessary part of the process. It's how we do peer review here.

I have to agree with GM on the being 'validated by the international community' though. That's pretty lolza.

[Pimp-X]

I just read some stuff on the internet said by some people and because the internet ennobles all information that traverses it, it must be fact.

[GM]

It's just sad really. I bet he's the type of person that makes webpages for a living and calls himself a 'software engineer'.

[Juju]

Originally Posted by GM

It's just sad really. I bet he's the type of person that makes webpages for a living and calls himself a 'software engineer'.

No, he is a programmer for a GPS manufacturer. Ergo, he does have more of a clue than your dumb ass does.

[madmaxii]

You couldn't be further from the truth GM. As I said earlier - he knows a shit lot more than you on the subject being discussed. Now get off the personal insults and do something productive.

[DrTiTus]

Originally Posted by Juju

No, he is a programmer for a GPS manufacturer. Ergo, he does have more of a clue than your dumb ass does.

LOL - case closed.

GM, you're a stoopid mormon.

[GM]

From: I would just radio jam it's control signals, and hijack the GPS signals so you can control where it goes when it flies on autopilot.

As some guy on the internet.

To: I would just radio jam it's control signals, and hijack the GPS signals so you can control where it goes when it flies on autopilot.

- GPS programmer

A vital piece of information makes a fuck load of deference so I don't feel any need to apologise.

Anyway, the hypothesis and international community remarks are still pretty wtf.

[GM]

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

LOL - case closed.

GM, you're a stoopid mormon.

What do you propose, that we all assume that whatever remarks people make on the internet are from sources that have relevant academic backgrounds?

That would be more than stupid in my opinion, I'm going to stick with being cynical until proven wrong - and admittedly in this case I have been.

[GM]

Egg on my face though, I feel like I should be the recipient of a wooden spoon award for this year.

What are the chances there can't be that many GPS programmers floating around.

gg Jodi

[Ajax]

Further technical discussion of drone hacking here:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011...rone-hack-gps/

[xor]

[StN]

Originally Posted by GM

What are the chances there can't be that many GPS programmers floating around.

I can only think of 6 at my present employer - and not all came from Trimble - a couple even have NavMan connections.