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Old 5th August 2010, 14:55     #24161
Saladin
Nothing to See Here!
 
You ever been mistaken for a man Vasquez?
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Old 5th August 2010, 15:15     #24162
Reformed_Quint
 
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Ah OK, so you would be happy with female-only units then?
Yes?

I trained with a couple of lady-soldiers, Can't fault them on their soldiering. A full female platoon would be a thing to behold, to be sure, but the numbers here (most countries I'd imagine) are lacking to make it a viable option.

I've never been good at dealing with people being all shot up and I doubt it'd sit any better with me to see a woman in pieces, key argument against using female soldiers right there. Could you stomach it? Could other woman?
Casualty of war has traditionally been a male occupation and I don't think equal rights will ever get to equality in that area.
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Old 5th August 2010, 15:39     #24163
ChaosWulf
Don't worry, be harpy
 
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Originally Posted by Reformed_Quint
Casualty of war has traditionally been a male occupation and I don't think equal rights will ever get to equality in that area.
Ah, you're thinking from the NZ perspective as we've never had to defend our country from invaders, right?
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Old 5th August 2010, 15:42     #24164
chiQ
Frag-muff
 
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Originally Posted by StN
are we that liberated that as a nation we would accept our women dying in action? (I'm assuming that they are also involved in similar convoys)
Are you serious?
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Old 5th August 2010, 15:43     #24165
Reformed_Quint
 
@CW. Well, yes, it's hard to give a perspective of having to defend your home and your way of life when you've never had to
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Old 5th August 2010, 15:43     #24166
Bandalador
 
Settler land was invaded during the Maori Wars.
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Old 5th August 2010, 15:47     #24167
chiquelet
Mrs Colin Farrell
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed_Quint
You have a group of people working very closely together, eat, shit sleep, etc.

There is a woman in this group, there will be 3 types of men, one will want to fuck them, one will treat them like their sister, another will just hate the bitch. Causes friction in your group and can cause moral breakdown.
Also, you have the male tendency to naturally 'look after' woman in threatening situations so half your section will be looking over their shoulders rather than doing their job.

Mixed combat units are a no-no, you greatly reduce the fighting capacity of your troop by mixing sexes, I don't know of any army in the world that does.
You explained that really well. That absolutely makes sense. So why not have exclusively female combat units? I'm guessing that a menstrual cycle when you're on deployment could be a big hassle though.
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Old 5th August 2010, 15:49     #24168
ChaosWulf
Don't worry, be harpy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reformed_Quint
Well, yes, it's hard to give a perspective of having to defend your home and your way of life when you've never had to
Fair enough, I guess I was raised on stories of 1956 Hungary - the men might have had the rifles, but the women and the children were often the casualties. When war is in your backyard, gender doesn't really come into it
NZ is pretty damn lucky with its isolation, in many ways.
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Old 5th August 2010, 16:03     #24169
p01s0n
 
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http://github.com/karthick18/incepti...er/inception.c
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/* INCEPTION: My tribute to Christopher Nolan
; The code below tries to explain and follow the sequence of events that took place in Inception
; as seen from the eyes of the programmer. It performs the inception through a clever trick
; using x86 code morphing technique in inception.h. This is done so as to make it appear that the thought
; about copying the inception string was done by Fischer himself even though he expected to return to
; a different state in real life.
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Old 5th August 2010, 16:33     #24170
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
since this is random thoughts

My great-great grandmother and my great-aunt were bayonetted to death by British soldiers on 30 March 1864.
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Old 5th August 2010, 16:37     #24171
CCS
Stunt Pants
 
When a woman can drag my unconscious body out of a burning tank, then she can fight alongside me.
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Old 5th August 2010, 16:38     #24172
Warrick
Awesome Ring Master
 
are you saying you're heavy/fat ?
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Old 5th August 2010, 16:41     #24173
Reformed_Quint
 
I don't think anyone would drag your body out of a burning tank, CCS.

'Hold your fire! Let them burn.'
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Old 5th August 2010, 17:01     #24174
CCS
Stunt Pants
 
Quote:
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are you saying you're heavy/fat ?
*sigh* Substitute me for any other male soldier.
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Old 5th August 2010, 17:41     #24175
dylan
Huh?
 
Stuff headline:

"CCS CALLS NZ TROOPS FATTIES!"
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Old 5th August 2010, 21:48     #24176
Warrick
Awesome Ring Master
 
strange. i'm craving a coffee. almost 9pm. i'm sensitive to caffeine. must ignore craving.
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Old 5th August 2010, 21:55     #24177
Pepsi
Konnichiwa, bitches
 
Aww that's not very nice RQ, I'd pull CCS out from the burning tank..even if it's just so I can get a photo of his face to post on NZG before the skin has melted to the bone. Then I'd kick him in the nuts and throw him back in, cause that's how we do things around here amirite?..
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Old 5th August 2010, 21:59     #24178
madmaxii
 
Oh yes - well done Pepsi
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Old 5th August 2010, 22:02     #24179
A Corpse
talkative lurker
 
I'd like to know how many of the attackers were killed, but I guess that's the wrong angle to take. It'd be a nice thought that our guys sold their lives dearly.
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Old 5th August 2010, 23:14     #24180
dylan
Huh?
 
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I'd like to know how many of the attackers were killed, but I guess that's the wrong angle to take. It'd be a nice thought that our guys sold their lives dearly.
I don't really think it's healthy to think about it this way. The scale is on a completely different level.

For example, our nation goes in to mourning because a single soldier dies. As much as I value his contribution, and feel for his family, it's not really a big deal, is it? Not in comparison to the thousands, and thousands who die every day from friendly forces accidentally dropping bombs on them, getting caught up in suicide bombings, crossfire, stoned to death for adultery, etc. etc.

Really, don't get me wrong, I TRULY appreciate what that soldier did on behalf of his country, but fuck me - there are people who don'thave a choice in this, unlike him, who still get blown to smithereens. I feel more sadness for them, if I'm honest.
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Old 5th August 2010, 23:20     #24181
[WanG] Wandarah
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepsi
Aww that's not very nice RQ, I'd pull CCS out from the burning tank..even if it's just so I can get a photo of his face to post on NZG before the skin has melted to the bone. Then I'd kick him in the nuts and throw him back in, cause that's how we do things around here amirite?..
Fuck yes.
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Old 5th August 2010, 23:29     #24182
fidgit
Always itchy
 
It feels to me like the DominonPost, and to a lesser extent the Herald (which imo is now the lesser of the two evils), is desperately trying to turn this into a rally of "Get Our Troops Out!". I imagine their editors are salivating at the numbers of people who will buy the paper to keep themselves up to date on the daily break news on the scandal of withdrawl from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Which, as has already been said here, is not what should happen, and surely not what will. A soldier was killed fighting in a war zone. That's kind of what happens to soldiers in war zones. I don't think it should even need to be reported (and I doubt the father voulunteered the info, and was probably asked pointedly because if he'd said "we should withdraw" that makes for an awesome headline to sell papers) that the Dad doesn't think we should, that John Key doesn't think we should, and that Mateparae has said we wont. It's a war zone, it's to be expected there will be deaths. We're just lucky it's been so few so far.
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Old 6th August 2010, 10:03     #24183
Saladin
Nothing to See Here!
 
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3996...m-60-000-prize

Hang on, so a self-imposed "ban" means that the Casino can still happily take your money if you lose, but doesn't have to pay you out if you win?
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Old 6th August 2010, 10:13     #24184
chiQ
Frag-muff
 
Get your spicy voicemail here

http://www.oldspicevoicemail.com/
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Old 6th August 2010, 10:21     #24185
Fx.
 
should not have switched to the jds last night ugh
FEELIN A BIT SLOW THIS MORNING

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Old 6th August 2010, 10:23     #24186
Reformed_Quint
 
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Originally Posted by A Corpse
I'd like to know how many of the attackers were killed, but I guess that's the wrong angle to take. It'd be a nice thought that our guys sold their lives dearly.
The angle of fire the bad guys would have been putting on our boys would have made any effective response pretty hairy at best. Two elevated positions firing on you? Keep your head the fuck down. All assumptions from what I've seen though.

AFAIK no enemy casualties from the exchange.
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Old 6th August 2010, 12:01     #24187
dylan
Huh?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saladin
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3996...m-60-000-prize

Hang on, so a self-imposed "ban" means that the Casino can still happily take your money if you lose, but doesn't have to pay you out if you win?
lol, that sucks for that guy.
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Old 6th August 2010, 12:52     #24188
Markh
 
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Originally Posted by Saladin
Hang on, so a self-imposed "ban" means that the Casino can still happily take your money if you lose, but doesn't have to pay you out if you win?
If I was him I would make a complaint - the casino let him gamble despite the ban so they should also let him win. It's a bit late to enforce the ban after the casino has already accepted the bet - poor form IMO.
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Old 6th August 2010, 12:54     #24189
Reformed_Quint
 
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Originally Posted by Markh
poor form IMO.
From a casino?!?! Who would have thought.
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Old 6th August 2010, 13:24     #24190
fidgit
Always itchy
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markh
If I was him I would make a complaint - the casino let him gamble despite the ban so they should also let him win. It's a bit late to enforce the ban after the casino has already accepted the bet - poor form IMO.
But the ban had expired, so it was OK to let him back in.

He just hadn't done the counseling sessions he was also required to do. So, that's why they get to keep his money.

?!

Also wtf, "self imposed ban". Just tell them you've unbanned yourself and it's all good to give you the money? Whole thing smells like a lazy reporter did a piss poor job of conveying what actually happened.

But indeed, if they had accepted a self-imposed ban from him, on the grounds that he had gambling issues (assuming since it's not mentioned why he was banned I don't think), then obviously the bit where they let him bet again should be the issue. Because addict gamblers get off the rush from knowing they might win, not the win itself.
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Old 6th August 2010, 13:43     #24191
Markh
 
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From a casino?!?! Who would have thought.
Yeah, I was disappointed - but not surprised.
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Old 6th August 2010, 13:46     #24192
Warrick
Awesome Ring Master
 
just called the ranger. saw a dog chasing the lambs/sheep behind my place. t minus 10 mins before a dog gets shot. shame, it's just a puppy too. probably 8months old. it did bite a sheep and now that sheep is limping so yeah, GG.

no one fucks with my sheep/lambs!
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Old 6th August 2010, 13:46     #24193
[Malks] Pixie
 
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Just tell them you've unbanned yourself and it's all good to give you the money?
Except you can't unban yourself - you need to applied to Internal Affairs and prove that you have met the requirements to have the ban (which he applied for) removed.

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Old 6th August 2010, 13:53     #24194
Markh
 
That dude should just sue the casino for $60k for letting him come in and gamble when he was banned - failure to protect a problem gambler from himself IMO.
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Old 6th August 2010, 13:58     #24195
Warrick
Awesome Ring Master
 
Anyone else think Valerie Vili's pretty?? She must be so dominant in the sack.
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Old 6th August 2010, 14:01     #24196
Pepsi
Konnichiwa, bitches
 
She'd fucken eat you alive! hehe

ETA: Also..


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Old 6th August 2010, 14:21     #24197
Warrick
Awesome Ring Master
 
whoasiz, i didn't realise she was 6'4 and 120kgs. you're right, she'd destroy me. i'm barely 6'1 and just under 100kg.
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Old 6th August 2010, 14:23     #24198
Pepsi
Konnichiwa, bitches
 
Did anyone see the Chatroulette story on 20/20 last night? I knew it was full of sickos, but fuck.. that would be a pretty horrible thing to witness
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Old 6th August 2010, 14:29     #24199
StN
I have detailed files
 
Nope - and I can't stream at present - please elaborate.
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Old 6th August 2010, 14:30     #24200
Reformed_Quint
 
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whoasiz, i didn't realise she was 6'4 and 120kgs. you're right, she'd destroy me. i'm barely 6'1 and just under 100kg.
Shes twice the size of lead >_<
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