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Old 14th March 2022, 10:45     #1201
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Labour to consider fuel tax cuts. Here's hoping.
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Old 14th March 2022, 10:46     #1202
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Quote:
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Hang on a minute. So ACT is proposing a UBI
Yep, UBI that is paid annually, and decreases over time for the next four years!

What do you mean tone deaf?
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Old 15th March 2022, 02:07     #1203
Ab
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Labour last week:

"NOBODY WANTS TAX CUTS CHRIS LUXON IS ONLY PANDERING TO HIS RICH MATES"

Then:

Quote:
1news poll.

Party support

National: 39% (up 7 percentage points)


Labour: 37% (down 3pp)
Nek minit:

Government cuts 25c a litre off fuel excise in cost of living relief package

Note: it's not a tax cut, it's a "cost of living relief package"
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Old 15th March 2022, 07:42     #1204
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While it probably is a political response it's not contradicting as if we're talking about some (minor) relief for those struggling then there is a difference between a short term fuel tax reduction and income tax cuts.
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Old 15th March 2022, 08:04     #1205
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Quote:
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Note: it's not a tax cut, it's a "cost of living relief package"
...because you can't tax a tax - oh look, now it's 29c with GST off too!
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Old 15th March 2022, 08:14     #1206
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It's only temporary as well (3 months), then it gets reviewed. It's not permanent at this stage.
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Old 16th March 2022, 12:30     #1207
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Quote:
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While it doesn't change much, I think a better system like STV would make for a better way to select representatives.
Aussie suggests this isn't THAT great an idea, given the craptacular system they've got.
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Old 6th April 2022, 17:16     #1208
Lightspeed
 
More leading Ministry of Health officials resign

The test for Labour here is what skill set will they opt for: Competence at running a health ministry? Or polishing a turd?

Bloomfield was pretty good at both, but it's pretty rare and usually a trade-off.
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Old 8th April 2022, 06:56     #1209
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And another one this morning, but to be fair, they'll all be out of jobs in a few months when the new super DHB scheme comes into play.
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Old 8th April 2022, 10:52     #1210
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Given the govt stopped following their advice, I can't say I'd blame them for feeling like a change in role
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Old 12th April 2022, 16:16     #1211
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I'm a bit out of the loop here but wtf is up with Louisa Wall? I thought she was a pretty strong performer.
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Old 12th April 2022, 16:31     #1212
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I'm a bit out of the loop here but wtf is up with Louisa Wall? I thought she was a pretty strong performer.
Supported Cullen once upon a time, not Robertson. Which is strange that the grudge sticks considering the same sex marriage bill she promoted. Rainbow Labour must have many colours.
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Old 12th April 2022, 16:45     #1213
Ab
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Promoted? Fuck, that was her bill.

Jesus, infighting on the Left is brutal.
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Old 14th April 2022, 20:22     #1214
Ab
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Tell me Louisa Wall is tremendously unpopular without telling me she’s tremendously unpopular

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Arena Williams, the Labour MP who did win the Manurewa seat, attended Wall’s final speech but did not join other MPs in personally wishing her farewell. She spent most of the speech looking down, towards her phone.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, both Māori Party co-leaders, and National leader Christopher Luxon were among the minority of MPs who did not attend Wall’s valedictory statement in person.
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Old 14th April 2022, 20:55     #1215
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Hmmm... I wonder what's going on there? Something to keep an eye out for in 20 years or so as memoirs and such come out. Unless I guess it comes out sooner.
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Old 13th June 2022, 13:40     #1216
Ab
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Presser today. Weird for a Sunday. Cabinet shuffle? Bets on Poto getting the sack?
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Old 13th June 2022, 13:59     #1217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ab
Presser today. Weird for a Sunday.
*checks time - even in NZDT, it's ticked over...

Are you still working from home? You might have missed something.
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Old 13th June 2022, 14:15     #1218
Lightspeed
 
You'd hope so. The long anticipated wave of shit and misery is here, peaked by a fucking pandemic. Labour is going to need someone who is sharp on their feet if they're going to come out clean.

Well, really, they should anticipate getting fucked, TBH. There should be a cold sweat going around those halls.
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Old 13th June 2022, 14:17     #1219
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*checks time - even in NZDT, it's ticked over...

Are you still working from home? You might have missed something.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...faafoi-mallard

Quote:
A spokesperson for the prime minister confirmed Ardern would announce some "minor" changes to the Cabinet line-up at 3pm.
This is the one right?

Clock on this forum is busted tho, so it makes things complicated.
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Old 13th June 2022, 14:34     #1220
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightspeed
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...faafoi-mallard



This is the one right?

Clock on this forum is busted tho, so it makes things complicated.
No worries - just wondered why Ab thought it was Sunday...
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Old 13th June 2022, 14:38     #1221
Lightspeed
 
Oh, true. Yeah, no I totally know what day it is. 😅
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Old 13th June 2022, 14:44     #1222
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Doh. Public holiday here, so I’m at home in slob clothes. Feels like Sunday
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Old 13th June 2022, 14:58     #1223
Lightspeed
 
So can Hipkins do it?

It seems like we've settled into the normal phase of virus exasperated misery, so I guess eyes can come off the pandemic?

I guess he is the right face for the job. He needs to come up with some growl tho if he wants to appease the voters National's appealing to right now.
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Old 13th June 2022, 19:42     #1224
Ab
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ab
Doh. Public holiday here, so I’m at home in slob clothes. Feels like Sunday
Confession I got changed and went out drinking, anything substantive happen?
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Old 13th June 2022, 20:27     #1225
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Quote:
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Confession I got changed and went out drinking, anything substantive happen?
A chap I knew at primary and secondary school and fellow New Brighton supermarket trolley boy (Well before he became a Law professor) got made Whip.
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Old 13th June 2022, 21:22     #1226
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Wtf faafoi is jumping ship? He was one of the only ppl in govt who had a clue!
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Old 14th June 2022, 18:59     #1227
Lightspeed
 
Yeah, he probably has more than a clue. Getting out now is the smart money, before the shit really starts flying, if the warm-up is anything to go by. And there hasn't been a better time to set up a work-from-home situation.
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Old 14th June 2022, 22:16     #1228
Ab
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Quote:
Kiri Allan calls out 'tokenistic' use of te reo at DoC

The minister was concerned DoC's use 'could read as cultural appropriation'
ok this is getting silly now
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Old 15th June 2022, 06:23     #1229
Cyberbob
 
NGL, I read that as tolkienistic, and was reading the article expecting them to discuss using te reo only to refer to different groups of people, ancient artifacts, people of significance, or various sets of rings.
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Old 15th June 2022, 06:56     #1230
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yeah, heard it on newstalk zb as i drove to training/work. tokenistic, hah.
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Old 15th June 2022, 11:56     #1231
Ab
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Kiri Allan is useless and all that language bollocks is just wokeness theatre on the side. I actually am more concerned that Kris Faafoi is deciding he'd rather not be an MP at all. I didn't always like the policies that he was charged with implementing but he's smart, well-liked, and competent. IDGI.
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Old 15th June 2022, 12:39     #1232
The Edge
 
Maybe he just wanted a change, he has been in politics for a fair while now.
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Old 20th June 2022, 11:47     #1233
Lightspeed
 
This would be real change:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...n-nz-elections

It's crazy how much money is brought in by individual donations, each member of entire families making the maximum donation.

It would help fend off the style of politics that's coming out of the US, that's for sure.
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Old 29th June 2022, 13:24     #1234
Ab
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Kiwibuild, the gift that keeps on giving

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/06/26/r...-and-pasifika/
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Old 11th July 2022, 22:25     #1235
Ab
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So everything‘s going great

https://www.nzinitiative.org.nz/repo...lost-its-mojo/
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Old 26th July 2022, 20:08     #1236
Ab
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ab
Brutal assessment:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...acinda-ardern/
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Old 28th July 2022, 14:37     #1237
Ab
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Jacinda Ardern: climate change is my generation's nuclear-free moment

Jacinda Ardern: climate change is one of the greatest challenges of our time

also Jacinda Ardern: DRILL BABY DRILL
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Old 28th July 2022, 14:43     #1238
Lightspeed
 
Not really a Labour thing tho, this is an electorate thing. Anyone with the votes to stay in power would be singing the same "climate change is bad, the economy is worse" tune.
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Old 28th July 2022, 14:51     #1239
Ab
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Quote:
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Not really a Labour thing tho, this is an electorate thing. Anyone with the votes to stay in power would be singing the same "climate change is bad, the economy is worse" tune.
She doesn't have the votes to stay in power. She's toast at the next election, if she doesn't get knifed by a rival before then like she knifed Angry Andy.

But I take your point. Principles go out the window when the economy looks as fucked as NZs does.
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Old 28th July 2022, 15:43     #1240
fixed_truth
 
Early days. We haven't even had the election year lolly scramble yet.
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