Random Thoughts II

[xor]

Originally Posted by Saladin

I'd pay a premium to be able to buy in a storefront. Having to interact with the sort of people that sell currently is the main reason I don't partake.

You'd be surprised how accommodating the average tinny house is. After all, what good will it do them if they rob/stab their customers?

[aR Que]

Originally Posted by Saladin

I'd pay a premium to be able to buy in a storefront. Having to interact with the sort of people that sell currently is the main reason I don't partake.

Plus from what I've seen Colorado legal prices are still cheaper than prices here.

Well, come on, where's the prices?

lol, buy a tinny. Mother fuckers needa know about scales of economy.

[chubby]

Originally Posted by Saladin

I'd pay a premium to be able to buy in a storefront. Having to interact with the sort of people that sell currently is the main reason I don't partake.

visit your local social tonic provider-
buy whiterhino or similar....

pretty much exactly it.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by aR Que

Well, come on, where's the prices?

Started at $200 an ounce when it first legalized in Colorado. Though apparently that's up to $400 now supplies are low, so I guess that's comparable to here? I'm not up on current market conditions.

[aR Que]

Not that i know anything about this kind of thing, it's used in cooking, right? I'd say those prices are fairly similar. Though 200 for a good oz is good going, is what i'm told.

[DrTiTus]

There is a cafe in New Lynn that sells, giving zero fucks about the law. It's fantastic (both in quality and convenience).

I looked at the punishment for growing and it's a max $2k fine, or up to 7 years in jail. Assuming you had only a reasonable number of plants, and weren't obviously supplying, I think it'd definitely be worth risking a < $2k fine. Jail would only be if you were blatantly flouting the law to have a warehouse full of the shit, supplying gangs and not paying tax.

I'd consider it a peaceful protest and happily go to court and tell anyone the same thing. Unfortunately I'm flatting and the lease holder is drop nuts/too sensible.

[StN]

Paging SD...

[Cyberbob]

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

Jail would only be if you were blatantly flouting the law to have a warehouse full of the shit, supplying gangs and not paying tax.

Mr SD would have a thing to say about that.

http://www.nzgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59951

[xor]

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

There is a cafe in New Lynn that sells, giving zero fucks about the law. It's fantastic (both in quality and convenience).

I looked at the punishment for growing and it's a max $2k fine, or up to 7 years in jail. Assuming you had only a reasonable number of plants, and weren't obviously supplying, I think it'd definitely be worth risking a < $2k fine. Jail would only be if you were blatantly flouting the law to have a warehouse full of the shit, supplying gangs and not paying tax.

I'd consider it a peaceful protest and happily go to court and tell anyone the same thing. Unfortunately I'm flatting and the lease holder is drop nuts/too sensible.

GL applying for jobs though :/

[DrTiTus]

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

Mr SD would have a thing to say about that.

http://www.nzgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59951

cultivation of cannabis
manufacturing of cannabis oil
possession of cannabis
possession of cannabis oil
precursor for iso propane alcohol
supply of cannabis
supply of cannabis oil
theft of cannabis

Oil is class B, and cannabis for supply? Theft as well?

I'm talking straight cultivation, none of the other bullshit. I don't think you go straight to jail for basic growing. xor's point still stands - the conviction itself would suck, regardless of the relatively insignificant punishment.

[Lightspeed]

You don't go to jail for flat growing in personal quantities. I've done a couple of things that required a police check, and I doubt that kind of conviction would have gotten in the way.

I didn't think most jobs required a police check? I guess I haven't applied for most jobs so I don't know.

[fixed_truth]

Good question. I could be wrong but I thought most jobs these days require police checks and credit checks?

[CCS]

wtf?

[Golden Teapot]

Originally Posted by xor

GL applying for jobs though :/

Or in fifteen to twenty years time trying to take the kids to Disneyland.

[Nich]

Police check, sure, but I doubt most jobs require credit checks. As my employer, the money flows one way (from you to me) and how i handle my hard earned money does not concern you.

But as far as smoking goes. As a first impression, it's a disadvantage, agreed. However, a well-timed joint amongst disagreeing workmates can elevate one's status and even earn them a promotion. I've seen it happen, and have heard of others who have experienced this.

Remember: well-timed, but also well-placed. Meaning that with certain people there might NEVER be a good time.

[StN]

We have a van that parks up regularly for random testing. All people who may influence safety, and managers from a certain level. Pretty much everyone except the accountants and the tea lady.

I now carry a laminated card of my current meds just in case I need to clarify a result.

Which should be a relief to anyone that uses air travel. Pretty sure anyone with a police or even a dubious credit record* would be a problem, and these are weeded out at the application stage. Hair sampling for new recruits too, so we get a bit of history in the decision. Not quite at GATTACA level, but soon...

*Vadar(sp?) checks are easy enough, and rule out a potential financial exposure.

[[Malks] Pixie]

Originally Posted by Nich

Police check, sure, but I doubt most jobs require credit checks.

I've had data-entry jobs that required a credit check. Pretty much any bank, insurance company or other financial institution will usually require a credit check.

Pixie

[StN]

So I was in at the video store yesterday renting a copy of Marvel Lego for the boy, and just out of curiosity I asked the chap behind the counter when I opened my account. Turns out I have been a member there since before he was born (I thought he looked older) and almost longer than I haven't.

Looking back, it was probably around the same time my girlfriend and I bought our first VCR, which if memory serves, was around the time SkyTV was starting up - because a guy in the shop was trying to tell me it would be better to get recent movies on Sky rather than renting them. Maybe now it would be.

[chubby]

too many users to arrest

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_4665886.html

"In the last decade since Michael Bloomberg became mayor, the NYPD has made 400,038 lowest level marijuana possession arrests at a cost of $600 million dollars. Nearly 350,000 of the marijuana possession arrests made under Bloomberg are of overwhelmingly young Black and Latino men, despite the fact that young whites use marijuana at higher rates than young Blacks and Latinos."

[aR Que]

Originally Posted by StN

So I was in at the video store




yesterday

clean slate act. ftw.

[Lightspeed]

Having never gotten around to sorting out the TV aerial, does anyone know of a stream for the Grammys?

[xor]

I think the only difference between the 2l tub of tip top ice cream and the 'boutique' branded ice cream is the price and the wanked out packaging.

I'd like to buy an ice cream maker but we literally have no more room to buy anymore appliances :/

[Redneck]

You never see rum and raisin ice cream in the supermarket

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by xor

I think the only difference between the 2l tub of tip top ice cream and the 'boutique' branded ice cream is the price and the wanked out packaging.

I don't think Tip Top vanilla is what is used to be. It used to be the colour of cream, now it's the colour of white paint.

These guys make next level ice cream:
http://www.joshuasicecream.co.nz/

[Pimp-X]

I think you are confusing vanilla and french vanilla.

[Lightspeed]

I know what you mean, but I swear it didn't use to be the paint white it is today. I remember the day I first noticed it a long time ago, it put me off it for awhile. Maybe I'm tripping, I dunno.

[MadMax]

Pam's French vanilla. Not sure what it's a clone of but it's damn good.

Also, please enlighten me why an employer would do a credit check? I've honestly never heard of that being done. I'm guessing it's like a check for your risk of committing fraud?

[Golden Teapot]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Also, please enlighten me why an employer would do a credit check? I've honestly never heard of that being done. I'm guessing it's like a check for your risk of committing fraud?

There are a few reasons, two of which are:
1. Behavior in personal life tends to be mirrored at work; those who can't keep it together at home usually can't at work either.
2. Fraud and plain-and-simple theft are more prevalent amongst staff with money problems.

When recruiting staff there are usually several candidates with similar qualities and other things equal employers choose the safer bet.

[mpx]

GT: Give it to me straight, I'm genuinely interested here; If I was looking for employment at your establishment and you did a credit check on me (which would show me in debt due to medical bills), and given everything else which has been candidly shared (and easily accessible, though I would mention it in an interview nevertheless), would it be an aggravating feature in whether or not you would hire me over someone who may lesser qualifications, less favourable reference checks but has a sterling credit check?

Not looking for an argument or anything, I'm actually interested to see how it would turn out given special situations where debt may be due to unforeseen circumstances and so forth.

Be honest !

[Deadmeat]

I believe it's more about weeding out people with consistently bad credit or who have recently found themselves in bad financial troubles, than it is about finding people with great credit. People under serious financial stress can have an easier time justifying theft, even if their justification is "i'll take this for now but i'll pay it back, i just have to pay this bill...". Like he said, "all other things being equal" it would be taken into consideration.

[[Malks] Pixie]

re: credit checks.

A number of years ago I went for a job where a credit check was required. Sure, no problem I say.

A couple of days later I get this weird phone call from the prospective employer saying that they thought the interview had been great but they had some supplementary questions about my credit history.

Them : Will you sign a legal document attesting that the name you applied for the job under is the only name you have had? You've never changed your name by deed poll? Can you provide two character references in professional roles who can attest to have known you, under your current name, for more than 20 years?

Me : Ummm sure... though I don't think I have any friends who are in professional roles and have known me for more than 20 years. Is that going to be a problem? Actually this is a bit weird, why are you asking me these questions? (I was in my mid-late 20's at the time)

Them : Well we didn't get anything back from the credit check.

Me : What do you mean you didn't get anything back?

Them : Well no record of bank loans, overdrafts, hire-purchases, revolving credit, credit cards, mortgages or any of that normal stuff. This raises a red flag for us.

Me : Really? Well I can confirm I've never had any of those and I've never changed my name either but I'm happy to sign a document confirming this.

Them : <silence at the end of the phone for a while> Okay. Well thanks for your time, we'll let you know about the role. <click>

Needless to say I didn't get the job... the person who did get the job ended up stealing from the company over a two year period to the tune of around $200K.

Pixie

[CCS]

I'd hire mpx because he's a GC. There needs to be a GC check that employers can do.

[Cyberbob]

Originally Posted by [Malks] Pixie

re: credit checks.
stuff

While that scenario has never happened to me, it's precisely why I got a credit card well before I needed one. It sat there doing barely anything more than the odd thinkgeek order. I figured a neutral credit history was better than no credit history.

[CCS]

GG to Lorde winning Grammys. I'm really surprised at the fuss over her fingers, though.



People are calling her 'frostbite fingers' and 'black death fingers' etc. Come on, man. It's artistic, yeah? The music world has seen much stranger stuff than that and I'm sure the Grammy ceremony has been host to some of that weird stuff. Is the music world really now so conservative that this is somehow worthy of mention? Or are they just bored of discussing Miley's twerking or Beiber's incarceration? I'm wondering if this is the germ of the eventual backlash against her success and it's the best they can come up with.

[aR Que]

@pix heh, i remember shit like that going down, when i was young, happy & free. Can't remember the details, but yea, pretty similiar.

[StN]

Originally Posted by CCS

GG to Lorde winning Grammys. I'm really surprised at the fuss over her fingers, though.

And she cleaned them up by the time she was up accepting. GG young lady.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

While that scenario has never happened to me, it's precisely why I got a credit card well before I needed one. It sat there doing barely anything more than the odd thinkgeek order. I figured a neutral credit history was better than no credit history.

Pretty much. Having a loan from a bank is a positive on your credit history. If a bank is willing to loan you money, you can't be doing too bad.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by CCS

People are calling her 'frostbite fingers' and 'black death fingers' etc.

This is a win for Lorde, adds to her clearly popular image: "the weirdo won out".

[[Malks] Pixie]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Pretty much. Having a loan from a bank is a positive on your credit history. If a bank is willing to loan you money, you can't be doing too bad.

I kind of get that now, but when I was younger I was very much in the mind that if you needed a loan for something then somewhere along the way something had gone very very wrong.

I'm kind of resigned to the fact that even if I did want to get a mortgage or something now I probably wouldn't be able.

Pixie

[Trigger]

Originally Posted by [Malks] Pixie

Them : Well no record of bank loans, overdrafts, hire-purchases, revolving credit, credit cards, mortgages or any of that normal stuff. This raises a red flag for us.

that is one fucking stupid aspect of our society
it's NORMAL to buy shit you can't afford, great logic
I've never had any of the above either except for a Credit Card which I had to get to pay for my EverQuest subscription, and I use it for online purchases now because it's the only way to pay.
I'm hesitant to even consider a mortgage, I'll probably buy my house in cash cause you know, fuck paying more than you have to through interest.
In my 10 years of owning a credit card I've paid interest once to the tune of $2 or so which I challenged, apparently when you do a cash advance interest starts accumulating immediately rather than at normal end of billing cycle type stuff. Needles to say I was rustled.