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Old 1st September 2014, 13:17     #14721
CCS
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The ol one handed browsing eh.
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Old 1st September 2014, 13:24     #14722
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The ol one handed browsing eh.
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Old 1st September 2014, 14:49     #14723
Spoon1
Mmm... Sacrilicious
 
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iOS apps always seem to have functionally-critical interface elements at bottom left and top right. With the phone in my left hand I like being able to go from one to the other comfortably without feeling like I'm stretching with my left thumb and without repositioning the phone or bringing my right hand into play. 8.9cm display feels perfect.
I found that as well, going from 4S to 5S. It's just a *little* too far to be easy and requires a bit of repositioning. I don't care too much about the extra screen size - fairly neglible.
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Old 1st September 2014, 19:28     #14724
Golden Teapot
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How can you give a 7 year old the responsibility of looking after a $1000 thing? I'd assume they'd break it or lose it within a month surely. Do you let her make calls and have open web access and stuff?
Well she has an iPad and a MacBook Air and both are looked after properly.
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Old 2nd September 2014, 08:00     #14725
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The Fappening: GG Apple. Security++
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Old 2nd September 2014, 08:06     #14726
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The Fappening: GG Apple. Security++
I read (cannot find source sorry) that it's not just Apple involved, SnapChat and Google Drive also potentially exposed.

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Originally Posted by _indigo1
The Fappening: GG 'Cloud'. Security++
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Old 2nd September 2014, 08:56     #14727
pxpx
 
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I read (cannot find source sorry) that it's not just Apple involved, SnapChat and Google Drive also potentially exposed.
More news here, doesnt mention SnapChat or Google Drive: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainm...ectid=11317659
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Old 2nd September 2014, 09:03     #14728
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My mate said a lot of the pictures looked like they came from an android, I wouldn't know since I wouldn't touch one of the bloody things.
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Old 2nd September 2014, 13:57     #14729
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
If you had a backdoor into all the data that has ever passed through all the iOS devices in the world, would you use it to copy some actresses' selfies?
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Old 2nd September 2014, 14:01     #14730
CCS
Stunt Pants
 
Well apparently that was good enough for somebody.

Kirsten Dunst criticises Apple for leaked nude photos
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Old 2nd September 2014, 15:41     #14731
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If you had a backdoor into all the data that has ever passed through all the iOS devices in the world, would you use it to copy some actresses' selfies?
I heard they came out of a deep web hacked celeb picture trading ring and the good stuff isn't ever gonna make it to us plebs because it's worth too much. So I imagine that whoever is stealing the data is probably smart enough not to Julian Assange it all over the internet at large and hold it back for extortion/leverage.
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Old 2nd September 2014, 15:45     #14732
CCS
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Oh man, I need to find out the secret entrance to the deep web celebrity porn ring. I would be soooooo happy.
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Old 2nd September 2014, 16:00     #14733
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
You can never find the deep web celebrity porn ring. One day, if you're worthy, it will contact you.
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Old 2nd September 2014, 16:57     #14734
CCS
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I will hack it.
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Old 2nd September 2014, 18:32     #14735
Golden Teapot
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I imagine that they have now all chosen passwords less susceptible to brute-force discovery. They have only themselves to blame - nobody like that could claim they didn't know there are people out there trying to acheive what they did.
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Old 2nd September 2014, 19:05     #14736
_indigo1
 
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I imagine that they have now all chosen passwords less susceptible to brute-force discovery. They have only themselves to blame - nobody like that could claim they didn't know there are people out there trying to acheive what they did.
Apple (or any other service provider) have no excuse for not detecting brute force account access attempts. I suspect there's more to it than simple brute force attacks.
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Old 3rd September 2014, 06:59     #14737
Golden Teapot
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It's customer centric to allow as many attempts as needed. The customer is accountable for choosing a safe password.

Some people need to learn from experience and I expect in most cases here this has just occurred. Others here still might not care or aren't smart enough. None of them need fear in my view - beyond some initial curiosity I don't think there's any adult acting opportunities likely to be on offer here.
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Old 3rd September 2014, 07:31     #14738
Spink
 
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It's customer centric to allow as many attempts as needed. The customer is accountable for choosing a safe password.

Some people need to learn from experience and I expect in most cases here this has just occurred. Others here still might not care or aren't smart enough. None of them need fear in my view - beyond some initial curiosity I don't think there's any adult acting opportunities likely to be on offer here.
You obviously haven't failed your password much! 3 attempts locks you out, atleast on an appstore login.

Passwords were most likely gained through social engineering though.
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Old 3rd September 2014, 08:16     #14739
_indigo1
 
You can detect brute force attempts through heuristics, you don't have to rely on basic 'max retries' logic.
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Old 3rd September 2014, 11:42     #14740
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Statement from Apple:
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After more than 40 hours of investigation, we have discovered that certain celebrity accounts were compromised by a very targeted attack on user names, passwords and security questions, a practice that has become all too common on the Internet. None of the cases we have investigated has resulted from any breach in any of Apple’s systems including iCloud or Find my iPhone.
There's enough nonspecificity in there to give Apple some wiggle room over what "breach" means, but the reference to "user names, passwords and security questions" means my money is still on social engineering for this one.

There's a reason celebs get targeted for this stuff and it ain't because we all wonder what Jennifer Lawrence looks like in sexy poses; I have youtube for that. It's because the tabloid news industry has ensured that any given celeb's birthday, mother's maiden name, highschool, first car, and pet's name are all matters of public record.

Short version: 2FA is there, use it.

Edit update Oops - no 2FA available for iCloud backups, Photo Stream, Find My iPhone.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/02/app...photo-streams/
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Old 3rd September 2014, 14:41     #14741
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2FA isnt infallible, especially if its only texting a code to a phone. See that shit today about the fake cell towers? Man in the middle baby

Also wasnt there an exploit in the find my ipone app that was allowing repeated icloud access attempts?

And definitely some social engineering going on or just pure stupidity. If you are famous and your password question is what school did you go to, how hard is it going to be for someone to google that?
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Old 4th September 2014, 08:32     #14742
Spink
 
There are also only 21 questions available for iOS account management's "Secret Questions" and a lot of them are pretty low ball questions that would be on facebook, or if you're a celeb public knowledge because you were asked about them in an interview. Still an Apple fan here but this probably needs to change, plus 2FA better with iCloud/Photostream too.

I'm guessing for lay people using the + in a gmail address as your iOS login adds an extra layer of security too though. Like if your iOS account is [email protected] it's slightly more secure since you don't widely distribute that form of the email address and it doesn't require nerd shit like extra mailboxes or aliases.

Do you need to use the same Apple ID for messenger as everything else? That could be rough I guess
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Old 4th September 2014, 13:14     #14743
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Remember, nobody forces you to give true answers to those things.

E.g. for one AppleID account I administer my birthday is 25 Dec 1901, the name of my first pet was AU7JFaMp#CR8m}YU, and the first film I saw in a movie theatre was ki*NkEskatJa4QRpW*2E.
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Old 4th September 2014, 13:22     #14744
Savage
 
That movie was shit, I saw it.
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Old 4th September 2014, 13:35     #14745
Delphinus
 
From our man at http://www.cringely.com/2014/09/02/h...p-zap-machine/

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Apple, too, has some ‘splainin’ to do about this Jennifer Lawrence nude picture mess. The pictures reportedly came from iCloud, Apple quickly shipped a new software update to do, well, something, yet at the same time said a 40-hour investigation showed they had done nothing wrong, hadn’t been hacked, nothing to see here, folks.

That, too, is a lie. The patch was for some purpose, the pictures that got out weren’t intended to get out, therefore something was amiss. In AppleSpeak that something might have been poor password control on the part of Ms. Lawrence and her BFFs, but if that’s the case why not say so?
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Old 4th September 2014, 14:26     #14746
Spink
 
How is the obvious answer not: To save face for the celebrities so that they don't piss off all celebrities who are basically free promotional material.
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Old 4th September 2014, 14:29     #14747
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Jennifer Lawrence was in that Samsung promo selfie for Ellen Degeneres at the thingy awards. The order to leak her photos came straight from Timb.
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Old 4th September 2014, 14:43     #14748
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Remember, nobody forces you to give true answers to those things.

E.g. for one AppleID account I administer my birthday is 25 Dec 1901, the name of my first pet was AU7JFaMp#CR8m}YU, and the first film I saw in a movie theatre was ki*NkEskatJa4QRpW*2E.
What location do you keep this information in, in the case that you need it?
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Old 4th September 2014, 16:29     #14749
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
1password for just about everything these days.
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Old 5th September 2014, 10:41     #14750
StN
I have detailed files
 
Quote:
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Jennifer Lawrence was in that Samsung promo selfie for Ellen Degeneres at the thingy awards. The order to leak her photos came straight from Timb.
He's a tricky trickster, ordering a hetro image release...
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Old 8th September 2014, 21:11     #14751
MadMax
Stuff
 
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Old 8th September 2014, 21:48     #14752
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You want to be banned? Try asking in English - I'm sure Ab will help
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Old 9th September 2014, 21:09     #14753
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Stuff
 
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You obviously haven't failed your password much! 3 attempts locks you out, atleast on an appstore login.

Passwords were most likely gained through social engineering though.
The find my iphone app until recently didn't trigger an alert or lock out on repeated failed login attempts.
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Old 18th September 2014, 06:56     #14754
[BT]Monza
 
iOS8 is out. 1.1GB download but needs 5.7GB free space...
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Old 18th September 2014, 07:18     #14755
Kryten
 
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iOS8 is out. 1.1GB download but needs 5.7GB free space...
Today is one of the rare days where I connect my devices to my Mac with a cable. Like a goddamn caveman.
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:14     #14756
mr selfdestruct
The Deliverator
 
Anyone that still has an IP4 and put up with the fact that the performance basically halved once IOS7 was introduced suspects IOS8 will basically render their phone unusable so I'd say most people are selling them now and upgrading
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Old 18th September 2014, 10:18     #14757
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Anyone that still has an IP4 and put up with the fact that the performance basically halved once IOS7 was introduced suspects IOS8 will basically render their phone unusable so I'd say most people are selling them now and upgrading
iOS8 won't change an ip4 at all because you can't install it on an IP4. The phone will still do all the same old things, just no new things. Good luck selling a phone that won't update to iOS8 though, lol.
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Old 18th September 2014, 12:03     #14758
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Old 18th September 2014, 12:07     #14759
[BT]Monza
 
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Today is one of the rare days where I connect my devices to my Mac with a cable. Like a goddamn caveman.
Not going to stoop that low, today is purge day.
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Old 18th September 2014, 12:23     #14760
Ab
A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Quote:
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Anyone that still has an IP4 and put up with the fact that the performance basically halved once IOS7 was introduced suspects IOS8 will basically render their phone unusable so I'd say most people are selling them now and upgrading
I saw no real change in performance going to ios7 on my IP4, but of course some of the graphical frills were disabled.

A bit sad when I woke up this morning and my IP5S and iPad were going "new shiny! update me!" and the IP4 was going "...what?"
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