Stuff.co.nz - champeon fo teh poof reeding.

[pxpx]

Originally Posted by blynk

Actors amazing mugshot? Well for one its not amazing, and two, there is no mention about the mugshot in the article

Yeah, was underwhelmed by that article. I think the heralds sponsored links are infecting their headline writers.

In 6 months time that headline would be: "5 reasons why this actors mugshot is amazing" (including intentional omission of apostrophe)

[blynk]

Nothing about the editing/proof reading here buy

Boy racer struggles to get car insurance
The story.
Someone posts on Reddit that they can't get insured with the AA or Tower. Someone posts that they managed to get it through Fintel but probably shouldnt have.
Another posts to try NAC because they specialise in this.

Either this is a completely pointless BS story, or this is actually "paid advertisement" article that they didn't say.

And of course there is no comments section to tell them that.

[pxpx]

Literally came here to post that. What in the actual fuck.

[Ab]

A 20YR BOYRACER APPLIES FOR INSURANCE. YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

[blynk]

The actually headline on the main page is even worse.

"Why won't anyone insure this guy?"

[CCS]

Struggles to get insurance? The tosser checked with 2 companies before saying "Internet, provide to me the answer!" That's not a fucking struggle. Two companies.

There is no struggle here. There is no story. This is shit.

[crocos]

Originally Posted by CCS

There is no struggle here. There is no story. This is shit.

Agreed. Hell, putting "boy racer" and "car insurance" in the same sentence it'd be more newsworthy if it was linked by "without any qualm received"

[pxpx]

Headline is now changed (this is what the headline is if you share via facebook), but another classic from the Herald.

[CCS]

The Herald. How many sharks have they jumped now? They're basically just Buzzfeed at this point.

[fixed_truth]

Robot goes rogue, kills man

A rogue robot has killed a technician at a car factory in an accident with chilling overtones of a science fiction movie.

Um I'm pretty sure it was nothing like a science fiction movie.

[CCS]

Good to see the Herald covering some important news.




A different article:



Oh gee. Do you think the Herald reads their own news?

[verve_rat]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment...-left-redfaced



Rince in three, two...

[blynk]

What the hell is that third paragraph on about?

[Brutus]

Copy/Paste fail on the 'Journalists' part?

Its not in the article anymore.

[Ab]

Stuff is more of an absurdist art project than news, this thread is testament.

[blynk]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment...arvel-in-talks

Weslet Snipes, who plade the vampire

The star announce he'd been

[plaz0r]

orgy-barge!

[Lightspeed]

Hahah, that's excellent.

[Lightspeed]

RadioNZ tracks a few recent fails (including their own):
http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/pr...pelling-it-out

[CCS]

Woman possibly assaulted in Wellington

What the fuck is this? Speculative news gathering? Something may have happened, we'll let you know once the reporter has actually filed the story!

[CCS]

Can we please try harder not to sound so fucking desperate to be loved by Faymus Peeple? "OMG our sand on her face! SQUEEE!"



Why? Because people won't to know if there is any asinine shit that the Herald won't publish. And now they have their answer.
#heraldbaiting

[Drgnfire]

Stuff = The non-news lets just rip stuff from social media and re-post it site. Their reporting is abysmal and their proof reading (and checking that links actually take you to the appropriate story) is terrible. Let's not even start on the click-bait 'headlines' which bear no resemblance to the story at all

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by Drgnfire

Stuff = The non-news lets just rip stuff from social media and re-post it site.

This kind of content gets the most hits for them - which is their bottom line. You might as well blame the NZ public for having shit taste.

[CCS]

Originally Posted by Drgnfire

Stuff = The non-news lets just rip stuff from social media and re-post it site. Their reporting is abysmal and their proof reading (and checking that links actually take you to the appropriate story) is terrible. Let's not even start on the click-bait 'headlines' which bear no resemblance to the story at all

Stuff - sure. But those screenshots are from the Herald, once-proud newspaper of record. It jumped the shark some time ago and it continues to surprise me with how shittier it gets.

[Lightspeed]

That's traditional media in general. Or maybe declining business models in general. Last gasp efforts to remain relevant/profitable.

I mean, the best world news comes from Qatar. What is up with that?

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

I mean, the best world news comes from Qatar. What is up with that?

What makes you think it's the best news?

[MadMax]

Because LS. He must have a bunch of subscriptions set up to various news sites and possibly has Al Jazeera playing in the background while eating pop corn at his PC.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by Ajax

What makes you think it's the best news?

To be clear I said best world news: I get to find out what's going on around the world, beyond western interests and narrative.

Al Jazeera's journalistic standards seem on par with the rest of the world. That is to say it has its own set of biases and its own particular lens through which is views events.

Some of the panels they have are superb.

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Al Jazeera's journalistic standards seem on par with the rest of the world. That is to say it has its own set of biases and its own particular lens through which is views events.

The lens is a little too distorted for my liking. Media criticism of the Qatari government and the emir is illegal, freedom of the press is very poor. Al Jaz is directly controlled by said government.

[Lightspeed]

The lens is distorted, but so is the lens I bring (which maybe why local sources appear less biased.) That said, Al Jazeera's coverage of minority issues is second to none. Which is probably to give the finger to dominate western values, which of course I love.

It's not like I'd hear about what's going on in Qatar anyway. We don't hear much about the horrors of Saudi Arabia in western news after all.

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

That said, Al Jazeera's coverage of minority issues is second to none. Which is probably to give the finger to dominate western values, which of course I love.

If the press is not free, you can't have much confidence in their coverage of anything. Which reduces them to a sort of propaganda bureau.

[Lightspeed]

Western media is at least as bound, if by different pressures. The government of Qatar, Rupert Murdoch, commercial and political interests, whatever. There are few if any corners of the press that are free from non-journalistic influence.

I don't know what news you actually consume to make this judgement. I've watched Al J consistently for years now, it doesn't vary wildly from other news outlets. Its coverage of issues in NZ appear well within the realm of reality and reason, fitting with my experience. I've no reason to believe that their coverage of issues I'm not familiar with would be different.

Had a flatmate from California for about a year. He got hooked on it. The stuff it taught him wasn't inaccurate, and a deeply different world view isn't necessarily propaganda.

[[Malks] Pixie]

This is fucking hilarious, it's like sitting in on one of my 1st year tutorials. All this talk of "lens" make me want to go back and read Chomsky/Herman (though they describe them as "filters"). Sure media ownership is super important but where AJ may falter on this one filter it's far far better off than most western media in terms of the other 4 (flak, advertising, ideology and sourcing).

Hell it's not like 99% of the American media haven't collapsed into an official mouth piece for the government in recent memory right?

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by [Malks] Pixie

This is fucking hilarious, it's like sitting in on one of my 1st year tutorials.

You're clearly the smartest guy in the room!

Sure media ownership is super important but where AJ may falter on this one filter it's far far better off than most western media in terms of the other 4 (flak, advertising, ideology and sourcing).

How is it actually better in terms of those four factors?

Hell it's not like 99% of the American media haven't collapsed into an official mouth piece for the government in recent memory right?

If you say so.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by [Malks] Pixie

This is fucking hilarious, it's like sitting in on one of my 1st year tutorials. All this talk of "lens" make me want to go back and read Chomsky/Herman (though they describe them as "filters").

It's just the news mate, no need to get sophisticated! AMIRITE Ajax?

Seriously though, that does sound like some compelling reading.

[[Malks] Pixie]

Originally Posted by Ajax

You're clearly the smartest guy in the room!

Not at all, I was simply commenting on the similarities between the discussions here and there.

Originally Posted by Ajax

How is it actually better in terms of those four factors?

Longer question but worth while to ask.

AJ has less pressure from advertisers than those organisations operating in the western media sphere (i.e. advertisers hold less power), part of this is due to the mass of media ownership consolidation which has taken place in the west since the 1990s. Sourcing AJ is miles ahead, they use a far wider range of sources whereas a lot of US based organisations use a hedging pattern with their sources. Ideology and Flak are filters which would just take to long to talk about here and are way more complicated.

Originally Posted by Ajax

If you say so.

This is a nice Chomsky-eque analysis of how the media system in the US failed.
http://www.salon.com/2007/04/10/media_failure/

Pixie

[MadMax]

Most use a virtual network provider (VPN) service to disguise the location of their computers.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...ion-of-netflix

[Ajax]

Originally Posted by MadMax

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...ion-of-netflix

Just tested various VPNs and they all connect no problem.

[StN]

^^ Maybe it comes down to billing address etc. Again, not hard to make non-NZ.

[MadMax]

vpn providers are ensuring continuity anyway