Green Party member allegedly admits to coordinating trashing of National billboards

cyc · 15th November 2011, 12:05

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10766168

IF this guy is indeed a Green Party member, this would just be totally typical conduct of, well, useless Green Party members. Don't like GE labs? Go trash it. Don't like another party's policies? Trash their billboards!

VOTE GREEN!

Furry Crew · 15th November 2011, 12:10

Man you should have seen the reaction I got one time when I told a green peace girl trying to donations that I thought Green Peace were like pirates of the south seas and terrorist.

Was worth it for the LOLs

Saladin · 15th November 2011, 12:17

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Originally Posted by Furry Crew

I thought Green Peace were like pirates of the south seas

Hell, now that's worth donating for! Argh!

Lightspeed · 15th November 2011, 12:25

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Originally Posted by cyc

IF this guy is indeed a Green Party member, this would just be totally typical conduct of, well, useless Green Party members. Don't like GE labs? Go trash it. Don't like another party's policies? Trash their billboards!

VOTE GREEN!

Hells yeah!

Torka · 15th November 2011, 12:42

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Originally Posted by cyc

Don't like GE labs? Go trash it. Don't like another party's policies? Trash their billboards!

this but unironically

DrTiTus · 15th November 2011, 12:52

At least they're taking action!

CCS · 15th November 2011, 12:52

Vote for Green and this is the sort of nut you get. That, and twits doing hunger strikes in Aotea Square.

Ab · 15th November 2011, 13:09

More of the same.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...s-to-newspaper

I want to like the Greens. I really do. But they just keep acting like brainless dipshits.

DrTiTus · 15th November 2011, 13:16

White was not an active member of the Greens and used private networks to co-ordinate the vandalism.

Ab · 15th November 2011, 13:18

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Originally Posted by DrTiTus

White was not an active member of the Greens and used private networks to co-ordinate the vandalism.

Do you realise how pathetic that sounds?

fixed_truth · 15th November 2011, 13:19

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Originally Posted by DrTiTus

White was not an active member of the Greens and used private networks to co-ordinate the vandalism.

Norman & the Party will be steaming. Way to reinforce ignorant negative stereotypes militant hippie guy.

National should be sympathetic here (lol) and understand the difference between the Party and some extreme individuals *exclusive Brethren smear campaign 2005 election* cough.

Delphinus · 15th November 2011, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Ab

I want to like the Greens. I really do. But they just keep acting like brainless dipshits.

That is equivalent to saying all gamers are like this guy.

[BT]MikeMan · 15th November 2011, 13:53

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Originally Posted by DrTiTus

White was not an active member of the Greens and used private networks to co-ordinate the vandalism.

That's the start of a Tui ad surely?

CCS · 15th November 2011, 13:55

This distracts nicely from the tea recording

Ab · 15th November 2011, 13:56

The Green Party is a registered political party. A legal entity.

When its members and representatives get caught out doing dumb shit like

Astroturfing reddit for backlinks
http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/c...g_rnewzealand/

and

Misleading reporters to get media coverage
http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...ate-apologises

and

Making totally irresponsible and untrue comments online along the lines of "OH NOES THE RENA HAS SPLIT IN HALF"
https://twitter.com/#!/GarethMP/stat...45742907322368

and

Taking us back to the 1980s with no-nukes hysteria "OH NOES I HEAR THERE'S SOME RADIATIONS ON THE INTERSHIPS"
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/5...rough-NZ-ports

and

Coordinating a nationwide campaign to illegally deface an opponent's political advertisements in the leadup to an election
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/election-2...lery_id=122660

...it makes me think that it, the Party, is collectively a bunch of brainless dipshits. Even if there are sensible people involved somewhere, it's the brainless dipshits who are out there getting headlines.

Edit: oh yeah, who can forget this:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...n-secret-tapes

The Greens leaders seem to spend a lot of their time disavowing any knowledge of their supporters' actions, don't they?

Whiplash · 15th November 2011, 14:10

The government should just legalize cannabis. It would certainly stop members of the green party from doing... Anything.

Ab · 15th November 2011, 14:14

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

...understand the difference between the Party and some extreme individuals *exclusive Brethren smear campaign 2005 election* cough.

Did the actions of those individuals leave you with a negative impression of the Exclusive Brethren as a whole? Well it's kinda like that.

And at least those fuckups had the balls to put a name, address, and authorisation statement on their smear. Greens? not so brave.

Ab · 15th November 2011, 14:40

Norman has said he didn't know anything about the defacement, even though his PA knew about it for two months in advance and didn't tell him.

Questions:

So who DID know? Anyone else at head office? Anyone in the Greens leadership group?

This wasn't a one-man job, it was a large group of people coordinated across the country. How many of those people are Green members?

The defacement wasn't done with a vivid marker, it was with large professionally-printed stickers. Who paid for them?

DrTiTus · 15th November 2011, 14:42

I did.

And what?

CCS · 15th November 2011, 14:51

And uhh... and it's an illegal act? So turn yourself in.

cyc · 15th November 2011, 15:25

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Originally Posted by Ab

So who DID know? Anyone else at head office? Anyone in the Greens leadership group?

It's pretty obvious that your average Green Party (aka Law Breakers/Eco-Terrorist) supporters couldn't care less about the truth. It's a MO typical of that camp -- no tactic is below the belt so long as it's directed towards the enemy.

fixed_truth · 15th November 2011, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Ab

The Green Party is a registered political party. A legal entity.

When its members and representatives get caught out doing dumb shit like

There's a world of difference between the usual dumb shit politicians say from time to time and "Coordinating a nationwide campaign to illegally deface an opponent's political advertisements in the leadup to an election"

This type of negative campaigning is totally at odds with their clean political image which they've worked hard over the years to maintain.

But of course there's the possibility that people from their head office and/or leadership group were involved and we'll have to wait and see if anything comes out. But Gareth's prejac tweets and a silly bitch executive assistant (who needs to be fired as soon as yesterday) aren't a smoking gun.

Furry Crew · 15th November 2011, 16:14

As much as I dislike most of Tree Hugger politics I do give their leader props for fronting up.

Ab · 15th November 2011, 16:17

Didn't have much choice now, did he?

Ab · 15th November 2011, 16:25

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

There's a world of difference between the usual dumb shit politicians say from time to time and "Coordinating a nationwide campaign to illegally deface an opponent's political advertisements in the leadup to an election"

Yeah my post was a response to Delphinus, so read it as a direct reply to him.

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

silly bitch executive assistant (who needs to be fired as soon as yesterday)

Agreed.

I notice that the Green Party member behind all this shit works for the Anglican Church. What is it with religious nuts doing underhanded shit to influence elections? Is there something in the Bible I missed?

Saladin · 15th November 2011, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Ab

Didn't have much choice now, did he?

Well there's always the choice to look like a tool instead, which Goff likes to exercise often.

Furry Crew · 15th November 2011, 18:37

Just walked passed some greens people waving banners at a stop sign. Succeeded in not saying anything snarky....just...

CCS · 15th November 2011, 18:42

That's not a success. That's a fail.

A Corpse · 15th November 2011, 19:21

TBH I thought it was amusing.

There's a series of National billboards around with two stop/go guys. Labour one with the stop sign, National one with the go sign.

Makes me want to photoshop "Asset sales" under stop, and "fuck yourself" under go.

CCS · 15th November 2011, 19:22

DO IT PHAGGOT!

Ab · 15th November 2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by A Corpse

There's a series of National billboards around with two stop/go guys. Labour one with the stop sign, National one with the go sign.

Makes me want to photoshop "Asset sales" under stop, and "fuck yourself" under go.

Could you photoshop a picture of Phil Goff in too?

fixed_truth · 15th November 2011, 21:09

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Originally Posted by A Corpse

Makes me want to photoshop "Asset sales" under stop, and "fuck yourself" under go.

doppelgänger of someone · 15th November 2011, 21:35

Two words: Ambush Advertising. That troll should have put his messages in billboards NEXT to National billboard, or IN FRONT, so there would not be vandalism. For extra justice and lol, put his name and address in as well to satisfy the law.

Russell Norman, assuming he and the party hierarchy knew nothing about it before hand, is doing the right thing putting the foot down like that. If not National will be whinging all day and night, and with every right.

Ab · 15th November 2011, 22:14

A Right activist should mount a similar campaign against Labour. Get a bunch of co-conspirators together, coordinate via social networks, and then under cover of darkness sneak around putting stickers of Phil Goff on all the Labour billboards.

Would it count as vandalism?

Would Labour demand they be removed?

Golden Teapot · 15th November 2011, 22:18

I wonder how many seats green has sacrificed here?

Golden Teapot · 15th November 2011, 22:21

I wonder if f_t appreciates that universally in english speaking countries (and most others) that an arrow to the left implies going backwards?

CCS · 15th November 2011, 22:26

This Jolyon White guy was on Close Up tonight. Jesus shit what a numpty. He didn't seem to get what all the fuss was about. He said that National's signs weren't defaced because the stickers came off cleanly. Oh, that's alright then! He didn't quite get how bad it would make the Greens look. He said he should've resigned his Green membership long before this stunt. He doesn't seem to think that his girlfriend being the EA to the Greens co-leader really made that much difference. Really Class A intellect right there. This is your Green supporter, people.

Juju · 16th November 2011, 09:45

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Originally Posted by CCS

This Jolyon White guy was on Close Up tonight. Jesus shit what a numpty. He didn't seem to get what all the fuss was about. He said that National's signs weren't defaced because the stickers came off cleanly.

Except they didn't - news report showed one of the attempts at removing the sticker - took half the billboard with it.

ipee · 16th November 2011, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Ab

I want to like the Greens. I really do. But they just keep acting like brainless dipshits.

Everytime i even entertain the notion of voting greens, they come up with stupid shit like this.

aR Que · 16th November 2011, 10:15

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Originally Posted by Ab

A Right activist

The right doesn't have activists. They have jobs.

15th November 2011, 12:05	#1
cyc Objection!	Green Party member allegedly admits to coordinating trashing of National billboards http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10766168 IF this guy is indeed a Green Party member, this would just be totally typical conduct of, well, useless Green Party members. Don't like GE labs? Go trash it. Don't like another party's policies? Trash their billboards! VOTE GREEN!

15th November 2011, 12:52	#6
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	At least they're taking action! __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand... Last edited by DrTiTus : 15th November 2011 at 12:53.

15th November 2011, 12:52	#7
CCS Stunt Pants	Vote for Green and this is the sort of nut you get. That, and twits doing hunger strikes in Aotea Square. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

15th November 2011, 13:16	#9
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	White was not an active member of the Greens and used private networks to co-ordinate the vandalism. __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

15th November 2011, 13:55	#14
CCS Stunt Pants	This distracts nicely from the tea recording __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

15th November 2011, 12:10	#2
Furry Crew	Man you should have seen the reaction I got one time when I told a green peace girl trying to donations that I thought Green Peace were like pirates of the south seas and terrorist. Was worth it for the LOLs __________________ "This ain't pain I'm feeling....it's nostalgia" Visit The O-bots

15th November 2011, 13:09	#8
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	More of the same. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...s-to-newspaper I want to like the Greens. I really do. But they just keep acting like brainless dipshits.

15th November 2011, 13:56	#15
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	The Green Party is a registered political party. A legal entity. When its members and representatives get caught out doing dumb shit like Astroturfing reddit for backlinks http://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/c...g_rnewzealand/ and Misleading reporters to get media coverage http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times...ate-apologises and Making totally irresponsible and untrue comments online along the lines of "OH NOES THE RENA HAS SPLIT IN HALF" https://twitter.com/#!/GarethMP/stat...45742907322368 and Taking us back to the 1980s with no-nukes hysteria "OH NOES I HEAR THERE'S SOME RADIATIONS ON THE INTERSHIPS" http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/5...rough-NZ-ports and Coordinating a nationwide campaign to illegally deface an opponent's political advertisements in the leadup to an election http://www.nzherald.co.nz/election-2...lery_id=122660 ...it makes me think that it, the Party, is collectively a bunch of brainless dipshits. Even if there are sensible people involved somewhere, it's the brainless dipshits who are out there getting headlines. Edit: oh yeah, who can forget this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...n-secret-tapes The Greens leaders seem to spend a lot of their time disavowing any knowledge of their supporters' actions, don't they?

15th November 2011, 14:10	#16
Whiplash Bobo Fettish	The government should just legalize cannabis. It would certainly stop members of the green party from doing... Anything.

15th November 2011, 14:40	#18
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Norman has said he didn't know anything about the defacement, even though his PA knew about it for two months in advance and didn't tell him. Questions: So who DID know? Anyone else at head office? Anyone in the Greens leadership group? This wasn't a one-man job, it was a large group of people coordinated across the country. How many of those people are Green members? The defacement wasn't done with a vivid marker, it was with large professionally-printed stickers. Who paid for them?

15th November 2011, 14:42	#19
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	I did. And what? __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

15th November 2011, 14:51	#20
CCS Stunt Pants	And uhh... and it's an illegal act? So turn yourself in. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

15th November 2011, 16:14	#23
Furry Crew	As much as I dislike most of Tree Hugger politics I do give their leader props for fronting up. __________________ "This ain't pain I'm feeling....it's nostalgia" Visit The O-bots

15th November 2011, 16:17	#24
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Didn't have much choice now, did he?

15th November 2011, 18:37	#27
Furry Crew	Just walked passed some greens people waving banners at a stop sign. Succeeded in not saying anything snarky....just... __________________ "This ain't pain I'm feeling....it's nostalgia" Visit The O-bots

15th November 2011, 18:42	#28
CCS Stunt Pants	That's not a success. That's a fail. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

15th November 2011, 19:21	#29
A Corpse talkative lurker	TBH I thought it was amusing. There's a series of National billboards around with two stop/go guys. Labour one with the stop sign, National one with the go sign. Makes me want to photoshop "Asset sales" under stop, and "fuck yourself" under go. __________________ Broke my addiction! Bye bye Eve, hello Minecraft. Wait... >_<

15th November 2011, 19:22	#30
CCS Stunt Pants	DO IT PHAGGOT! __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

15th November 2011, 21:35	#33
doppelgänger of someone	Two words: Ambush Advertising. That troll should have put his messages in billboards NEXT to National billboard, or IN FRONT, so there would not be vandalism. For extra justice and lol, put his name and address in as well to satisfy the law. Russell Norman, assuming he and the party hierarchy knew nothing about it before hand, is doing the right thing putting the foot down like that. If not National will be whinging all day and night, and with every right.

15th November 2011, 22:14	#34
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	A Right activist should mount a similar campaign against Labour. Get a bunch of co-conspirators together, coordinate via social networks, and then under cover of darkness sneak around putting stickers of Phil Goff on all the Labour billboards. Would it count as vandalism? Would Labour demand they be removed?

15th November 2011, 22:18	#35
Golden Teapot Love, Actuary	I wonder how many seats green has sacrificed here?

15th November 2011, 22:21	#36
Golden Teapot Love, Actuary	I wonder if f_t appreciates that universally in english speaking countries (and most others) that an arrow to the left implies going backwards?

15th November 2011, 22:26	#37
CCS Stunt Pants	This Jolyon White guy was on Close Up tonight. Jesus shit what a numpty. He didn't seem to get what all the fuss was about. He said that National's signs weren't defaced because the stickers came off cleanly. Oh, that's alright then! He didn't quite get how bad it would make the Greens look. He said he should've resigned his Green membership long before this stunt. He doesn't seem to think that his girlfriend being the EA to the Greens co-leader really made that much difference. Really Class A intellect right there. This is your Green supporter, people. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?