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11th November 2021, 14:32 | #1041 |
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23rd November 2021, 18:48 | #1042 |
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The creator of Harry Potter, writer of Harry Potter books, producer of Harry Potter movies, playwright of Harry Potter stage show, and person who dropped off the Forbes billionaires list because of the staggering amounts she donates to charities, J.K. Rowling, is not invited to the Harry Potter 20th anniversary special because she's literally worse than Hitler.
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29th November 2021, 14:28 | #1043 |
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9th December 2021, 17:59 | #1044 | |
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Parliament unanimously passes bill allowing change to birth certificates
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9th December 2021, 18:55 | #1045 |
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I am surprised too. Perhaps there are details of which I'm unaware.
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13th December 2021, 09:54 | #1046 | |
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13th December 2021, 10:26 | #1047 | |
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^Another example of bureaucrats not understanding the difference between sex and gender.
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13th December 2021, 10:29 | #1048 |
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What's wrong with seperating the two, understanding that one can change, one can't.
Biological sex at birth: Male. Gender: Space cowboy.
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13th December 2021, 19:26 | #1050 |
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Certainly that's the tale the bigots tell. Not supported by the stats. Oh, I'm sure there's one or two that try it on, but overall very few.
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13th December 2021, 19:51 | #1051 |
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What's bigotry got to do with it? Stats? Do you have the brain worms?
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15th December 2021, 02:13 | #1052 | |
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15th December 2021, 15:46 | #1053 | |
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Richard Dawkins just noticed that the Royal Society of NZ has started disciplinary investigations of two (legendary) Kiwi academics who signed the "In Defence of Science" Listener letter, because someone's feelings were hurt.
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15th December 2021, 17:13 | #1054 |
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15th December 2021, 17:17 | #1055 |
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Lol Dawkins, expert in Maori knowledge.
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17th December 2021, 01:36 | #1056 |
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The Juilliard School - yeah, that one - runs an anti-racism drama workshop using "history, research and music to explore the journey of black people in this country" run by Grammy and Tony nominee black actor and director Michael McElroy.
During one of the sessions the workshop examined the dialogue of a slave-auction scene from the groundbreaking TV miniseries "Roots". The language in the scene caused "trauma" to a female student active on social media. That she felt hurt means that someone hurt her. Therefore she is a victim of violence. The hurt originated in racist language used by characters in the scene. Therefore she is a victim of racist violence. If she is the victim of racist violence, then Michael McElroy, who caused her to experience this, is, logically, a violent racist. Fortunately the school realised this argument was ridiculous and told everyone to cal-- LOL JUST KIDDING of course they fired him https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...tic-expression |
19th December 2021, 12:07 | #1057 | |
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19th December 2021, 12:27 | #1058 |
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What reputation, with whom? Who will be reading research and upon discovering it originated in NZ will begin to doubt what they're reading?
I was going to also ask who will be less likely to consider graduates from Auckland University, but then I realised its already lagging reputation, so it would be difficult to distinguish the causes.
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19th December 2021, 16:44 | #1059 | |
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Dawkins has gone all colonial racism with his categorisation of all Maori knowledge as creation myths. Which he's already backtracked.
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19th December 2021, 17:19 | #1060 |
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There’s no such thing as Maori science
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19th December 2021, 18:18 | #1061 |
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Some Maori knowledge is demonstrably science. In NZs context it would be backwards not to include this knowledge in our kids science classes.
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19th December 2021, 19:00 | #1063 | |
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19th December 2021, 19:35 | #1064 | |
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There is such a thing as Maori knowledge generated by science. I don't see any reason why this knowledge should be excluded from NZ schools.
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19th December 2021, 19:36 | #1065 |
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There are things that are true and there are things that are false. That's it. Knowledge doesn't have an ethnic group.
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19th December 2021, 20:09 | #1066 |
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The relevance, utility and overall value of learning some things that are true over other things that a true does have a subjectiveness. And often (particularly in minorities) the things that are true and also have cultural relevance get more of a buy in from learners from this culture, which is of value.
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19th December 2021, 20:39 | #1067 |
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Meaningless twaddle.
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19th December 2021, 21:36 | #1068 | |
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It's a pretty widespread pedagogical principle with some solid research behind it.
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19th December 2021, 22:33 | #1069 |
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If you're talking about little kids, fine, whatever gets them interested.
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20th December 2021, 15:33 | #1070 |
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20th December 2021, 19:40 | #1071 |
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An understanding of knowledge is there is knowledge that exists independent of time, place, person. Then there is knowledge that exists for a single moment, in a single place. And then there's all that's in between.
There's an argument that science strays beyond that hard edge of what transcends time and space, but let's put that aside. We'll accept that scientific knowledge exclusively exists in this transcendent position. Looking at the development of scientific knowledge we can see it sometimes, usually, takes a very long time to determine if some knowledge we've developed is truly deserving the hallowed title scientific, that we're often working with knowledge as if it is. We could try be tricky, couch our language saying the knowledge at hand was developed using scientific principles, even if not truly science itself. But by our definition we would have to admit the knowledge was not science. So in any given moment we're working with a volume of not-science swirling around the tiny volume of actual science we've accumulated. That not-science being knowledge more closely aligned with the here and now, it being used in how we make our decisions, which must occur science or not. Putting this in context of Maori science, of course science has nothing to do with Maori, as Maori exist in time and space. But we're talking about the implied wider bodies of knowledge, specifically the knowledge of the Maori world coming into contact with the knowledge of the colonised world. By saying Maori science we're saying science exists in the Maori world too. We know it must as the demands of the world are too great for any community, any culture to survive without operating on the basis of that which is true anywhere, all the time. In the context of colonisation, in the effort to mitigate some of the known impacts, we're considering the implied science of Maori knowledge and we're making a way for that science to have its place in the world. At least, that's what it looks like to me.
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20th December 2021, 19:51 | #1072 |
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So what you're saying is... indigenous knowledge may indeed help advance scientific knowledge in some ways?
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20th December 2021, 20:34 | #1073 |
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Cherry picking season starts in Mid December also.
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20th December 2021, 20:41 | #1074 |
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Technically Kohitātea is whenever the fruit are ripe. It's not tied to any particular point on the calendar.
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20th December 2021, 20:46 | #1075 |
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Any scientific knowledge contributes to all scientific knowledge, wouldn't you say?
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21st December 2021, 10:50 | #1076 |
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Beliefs in cures or treatments that are a placebo effect at best and a scam at worst, don't contribute to all scientific knowedge, Indigenous or not.
Then you've got the counter of 'Well if it works for them, does it matter if it's been scientifically proven or not' ? - Which is what I've heard many times when discussing whether or not Indigenous Maori medicine, Traditional Chinese Medicine, etc are on the same playing field as scientificaly proven pharmaceutical medicine.
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21st December 2021, 12:13 | #1078 | |
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21st December 2021, 19:11 | #1079 |
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Science is the system we have for determining whether any given claim is true or not. It doesn't matter which member of which ethnic group makes the claim being tested. If the claim passes through that screen, then it is true. If it doesn't, then it was just belief.
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That's right. And if I was of a culture or group looking to dismiss white indigenous culture I might flash around psychology as proof that the Western system of knowledge isn't science.
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