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Old 4th February 2020, 00:27     #5521
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What exactly has this government achieved?
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Old 4th February 2020, 07:28     #5522
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Kiwibuild has been reset and changes made with Labour admitting it was failing.

Overall Labour’s not doing too bad considering the Winston factor. I’m hoping next year it’ll be just them & the Greens so NZ can get back on track even faster.
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Old 4th February 2020, 09:05     #5523
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What exactly has this government achieved?
Things people (like you) don't pay attention to. Same with the National government. They did plenty no one cared about.
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Old 4th February 2020, 09:07     #5524
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wHaT hAs ThE gOvErNmEnt acHievED

Seriously, the most talk back radio of political challenges.
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Old 4th February 2020, 11:27     #5525
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Things people (like you) don't pay attention to.
Gimme the top 10.
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Old 4th February 2020, 13:52     #5526
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What exactly has this government achieved?
Jacinda runs through it complete with fact checking so we don't need to do it ourselves, unless you care to fact check the fact checkers. I personally don't.
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Old 4th February 2020, 14:02     #5527
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That's probably just a bunch of easy to digest sound bites.

My guess is I start demonstrating the work the government is doing, like the building reforms that are ongoing, and Ab starts diddling with definitions, escalating demands of evidence, that kind of stuff.

You know, the usual arguing for the sake of reinforcing one's own perspective, rather than attempting to grow deeper knowledge.
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Old 4th February 2020, 14:04     #5528
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National achieved fucking up ACC's Sensitive Claims service. No one cared about that.
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Old 4th February 2020, 15:17     #5529
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Jacinda runs through it complete with fact checking so we don't need to do it ourselves, unless you care to fact check the fact checkers. I personally don't.
Fact checker let some personal bias' into their fact checking (being trans is a sickness (when said announced funding for trans issues, so marked as failed instead of correct), banned assault weapons hurts gun owners (marked as failed fact, when fact was correct), etc) so while im glad someone is fact checking, doesn't mean I'll take their numbers.
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Old 10th February 2020, 11:40     #5530
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This migrant economy is working out much better than that foolish knowledge economy Aunty Helen was cooking up.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/02/1...ing-to-happen#
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Old 10th February 2020, 12:48     #5531
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Did you actually read that? Because you've posted it in the wrong thread.
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Old 10th February 2020, 13:19     #5532
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*sigh*

Maybe you'll recall plans for a knowledge economy. Raise an educated, robust, intelligent population, working in high value industries.

Maybe you'll recall National getting in and saying "fuck all that, lets go dairy and tourism", scrapping the kinds of things that go towards building an intelligent work force (from early childhood education through to post graduate study.) Using migration to prop up our economy in lieu of a high value work force. If you DID happen to get a good education, well, plenty of good jobs overseas. I didn't, I always have to look up how to spell "lieu".

Or is your memory wiped each election?
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Old 10th February 2020, 15:45     #5533
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“Knowledge economy” was a campaign slogan. No policy ever actually got implemented.
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Old 10th February 2020, 16:19     #5534
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What was Labour's research & development fund about? Didn't that amount to hundreds of millions of dollars?

Regardless, it was National that turned us away from high value to low value industry. National continued, with no adequate regard for worsening consequences, to prop up the economy with migration. By supporting low value industries and by making changes that made getting a quality, high level education for all New Zealanders more difficult. I specifically recall National cutting improved standards in early childhood centres and cutting the student allowance for post graduate students.
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Old 10th February 2020, 17:05     #5535
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“Knowledge economy” was a campaign slogan. No policy ever actually got implemented.
Maybe they should have called it KiwiEconomy to make it more successful?
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Old 10th February 2020, 18:44     #5536
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National gave us KiwiRape.
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Old 10th February 2020, 20:14     #5537
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That's not what Mallard *allegedly* said...
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Old 12th February 2020, 11:30     #5538
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Simon Bridges rules out working with NZ First after election
This is an interesting roll of the dice. It might attract some soft NZF voters but that assumes NZF voters aren't happy with NZF in government as they've got a lot their way so far. But yeah if NZF dip under the threshold then Nats + Act vs Labour + Greens would be very close.
How astute does this now look?
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Old 12th February 2020, 11:31     #5539
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It'd be pretty awkward right, the two parties under investigation for improperly receiving donations working together.
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Old 12th February 2020, 14:38     #5540
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Yeah, National is way below the moral high ground.


Also another three high profile mps ditching National.
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Old 12th February 2020, 22:12     #5541
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Probably best Sarah Dowie goes, after her dalliance with Jamie Lee Ross. That was pretty bad.
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Old 10th March 2020, 12:48     #5542
Lightspeed
 
Every time National talk about cutting regulations, I think Pike River.
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Old 14th March 2020, 21:46     #5543
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I'm not the only one.

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Old 19th March 2020, 14:59     #5544
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Wtf Simon Bridges voted no to the Abortion Legislation Bill?? What a disgraceful leader.
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Old 19th March 2020, 15:09     #5545
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I'm suspicious that National are working an angle, consciously or otherwise.

Like pip Bridges just before the election with someone more relatable, the contrast working in the new leader's favour. If not to win the election, then to boost their support.

Or maybe it's just the bias against opposition leadership playing out as it normally does.
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Old 21st May 2020, 11:29     #5546
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Bridges already written off by media. A bit unfair on the process.

Todd Muller, the man who could be prime minister
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Old 21st May 2020, 14:41     #5547
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That guy seems gross too. He'd appeal the National's conservative base, but won't win back much other support. Nikki all the Kayes probably wouldn't make PM, but I think she'd shore up support for now.
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Old 21st May 2020, 19:12     #5548
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Bridges already written off by media. A bit unfair on the process.

Todd Muller, the man who could be prime minister
I guess it would be interesting to go back to that period inbetween Andrew Little getting that really low poll results (something like 26%), and Jacinda Adern taking over.

See what type of media articles there were.

Also, the article is probably more of a "you have no idea who the fuck muller is, so let us tell you"
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Old 22nd May 2020, 22:36     #5549
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https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/22...r-todd-muller/
Admittedly, I hadn't heard about this guy until this week.
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Old 26th May 2020, 16:24     #5550
Lightspeed
 
facepalm

National Party MPs contradict each other over diversity in front bench

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The party's Finance Spokesperson Paul Goldsmith was today named as Māori by the leadership as an example of diversity, which he promptly rejected.
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Old 26th May 2020, 16:54     #5551
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Old 26th May 2020, 21:16     #5552
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They've got two Todds!
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Old 26th May 2020, 21:39     #5553
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I'm getting some really strong Karen vibes from Louise.

Last edited by Nothing : 26th May 2020 at 21:41.
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Old 27th May 2020, 09:08     #5554
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Fun fact: A group of Karen's is called a Complaint.
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Old 27th May 2020, 10:19     #5555
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They've got two Todds!
So diverse that two of the white guys in dark suits aren't even wearing ties.
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Old 27th May 2020, 11:18     #5556
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To be fair, one of them is wearing a tie here, and a splendid Mullét.
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Old 27th May 2020, 18:31     #5557
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The Spinoff twists the knife on the Goldsmith lols.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/27...hambles-story/
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Old 27th May 2020, 19:03     #5558
Lightspeed
 
Laugh

That was very gratifying.

Not complaining about Tova now.
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Old 27th May 2020, 22:54     #5559
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Only two Todds, thank Christ they got rid of Todd Barclay. That clown was a waste of space.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=11893407
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Old 30th May 2020, 19:56     #5560
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Laugh



Mildly related, I've been bingeing Civ 6 this past week, it's fairly decent.
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