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19th November 2022, 11:54 | #1322 | |
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I'm not sure what your angle is on this one, I feel like you're jumping the gun.
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19th November 2022, 13:53 | #1324 |
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"The red media"?!
Looks like xor's another one fallen down the rabbit hole.
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19th November 2022, 18:26 | #1325 | |
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19th November 2022, 18:29 | #1326 |
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It depends on how disingenuous one is willing to be to make a point.
This whole thread is a great example of how people are willing to chase the most spurious of sources to assure themselves what they believe is true. That their fears are justified.
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19th November 2022, 18:33 | #1327 |
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Wow that last sentence is like, turtles all the way down.
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19th November 2022, 18:41 | #1328 |
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19th November 2022, 19:00 | #1329 | |
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19th November 2022, 19:08 | #1330 |
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Yeah me calling out hysteria is a bit OTT in here too.
Was from PC gone mad thread. |
22nd November 2022, 13:11 | #1331 | |
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22nd November 2022, 14:12 | #1332 |
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Labour's gonna get slaughtered on the voting-age issue. The public overwhelmingly oppose a change.
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22nd November 2022, 14:23 | #1333 |
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22nd November 2022, 15:06 | #1334 |
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Quite a smart political move. It's never gonna happen without National and so will mean that in they minds of young people they'll associate National as been a backward looking party which will resonate into adulthood.
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22nd November 2022, 18:34 | #1335 |
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The discrimination ruling seems a strange launchpad for the campaign to make it 16. Surely it just moves the discrimination by 2 years? Doesn't it imply that there should be no age limit?
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22nd November 2022, 18:43 | #1336 |
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It moves the the discrimination by two years as it's unjustified. Afaik it hasn't said that discriminating people under 16 in the context of voting is unjustified.
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22nd November 2022, 20:16 | #1337 |
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I assumed it was because under 16, you are a minor and require a guardian.
After 16 you can do whatever you like. It only captures 2/3rds of people, because 1/3 will first vote when they are 18. And then take into account the small turnout you would have, and it wouldn't be much. But maybe what they could start to do is have more education in schools around it. Have it part of a life skills curriculum including things like finance/budgeting. |
22nd November 2022, 20:17 | #1338 |
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I also believe most argument against them being able to vote could probably be turned around and argued that they apply to the elderly as well.
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22nd November 2022, 21:35 | #1339 | |
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But yeah, pretty much 16 is like an adult except not. Therefore the electoral system is colonial oppression against our rangatahi.
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23rd November 2022, 18:01 | #1341 |
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I think the lack of experience goes both ways for young voters.
On the one hand they don't have much experience with which to inform their decisions as older folk. But on the other hand, they don't have as much experience to tribalise them and subvert rational decision making as older folk. If competence to vote was what you were worried about - be it old, young, antivax/WEF crowd, or mentally challenged (does the former come under this), then a simple fix would be registering to vote require some kind of competency test. However that would just tank voter turnout even more than it already is, and apart from that, who says your vote doesn't count just because you are less competent than someone else? That becomes a slippery slope - where do you draw the cutoff? Only smart people can vote? Last edited by _indigo1 : 23rd November 2022 at 18:04. |
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Buying alcohol Selling body for sex Getting married with out permission The ability to sign contracts which are binding - includes the mortgage, credit card etc. Renting a car - well that is probably because the earliest you can get a full licence is 17.5 (with a driving course) But you can start driving at 16 You can leave school You become an adult worker Leave home Decide on your own medical treatment Apply for a gun license (although maybe that one should fall into the restricted category) Your list of can'ts are very different to having the ability to vote in an election. |
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24th November 2022, 09:21 | #1343 | |
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Extreme example. Prisoners can't vote, then the general population leans more to harsher penalties for crime. Laws change, more people go to prison. populations leans even more to harsher penalties. More laws change, more go to prison.... You then have a society where the littlest thing has a harsh penalty. You have an extremely safe society though, because 50% of your population are in prison. |
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24th November 2022, 12:08 | #1344 |
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I think prisoners should be able to vote.
I find it grotesque taking away the vote as some sort of punishment - what other reason is there to take it away? I also find it inconsistent and hypocritical. Part of the social contract in our society is that to participate in society you follow the laws of society. If you break those laws, then society imposes limits on your freedom both for punishment and rehabilitation. Ergo, the reason that your rights are allowed to be violated in that way is because you are giving up some of them as part of the social contract to participate in society. It's a quid pro quo. It's not something that is being 'forced' on you, it is an agreement you defacto make when you choose to participate in society. (Just leave out the discussion of how one would choose NOT to for now) To then turn around and also say, oh, we are also forbidding you to participate in society at the most fundamental level - seems wrong. They want to enforce the person to be a part of society by holding them accountable to it's laws, whilst simultaneously denying them participation in it. It's akin to taxation without representation. Last edited by _indigo1 : 24th November 2022 at 12:11. |
30th November 2022, 00:21 | #1345 |
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The Government will pay $4000 to every small shop and dairy wanting to install fog cannons https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ime-protection |
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2nd December 2022, 20:46 | #1347 | |
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And also Christchurch retailers terrified after Gun City ram raid, call for Govt crime crackdown Crimewave ... just a meme, OK.
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3rd December 2022, 15:05 | #1348 |
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Maybe someone in Chch can explain the full setup, but how on earth could a gun shop be ramraid with a Mazda Demio, and have guns and ammunition stolen.
Crimewave, crime epidemic or whatever the fuck you would like to call it, surely a fucking gunshop should have some decent fucking security. Dairy's or jewellery shops fine, maybe they don't have as much. But they are extremely different to a gun shop. |
4th December 2022, 21:08 | #1349 |
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Not displaying a QR code: jail
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/130...d-safety-rules Raping multiple girls: home detention |
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They repeatedly refused to get any food safety certification. Poor food safety can kill, potentially someone important.
Rape is just rape. It usually only happens to vulnerable people we don't care about. Why is this about Labour tho?
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6th December 2022, 15:58 | #1355 |
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Jacinda flat-out lying in continuing RNZ TVNZ merger trainwreck
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6th December 2022, 17:16 | #1357 |
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I know Labour have fucked up a lot of shit but my god I shudder at the thought of a National/Act run Government.
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6th December 2022, 18:05 | #1359 |
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Audience numbers can collapse.
You gotta be so shrill bro?
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