The great combined Smrtphone OS thread - Page 11

Hazmat · 8th July 2008, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju

It's not available on prepay.

Um yeah it is.

Did you not read the bit about $979 and $1129 to purchase the 8GB and 16GB respectively without a plan?

How is that not pre-pay?

xin · 8th July 2008, 12:17

Is it just me or are these plans worse than the existing 3G data plans?

A Corpse · 8th July 2008, 12:17

It's a ponce-tax. Wanna prance around Ponsonby waving your faggy little iPhone around, it'll cost ya.

Cease · 8th July 2008, 12:19

http://vodafonenz.custhelp.com/cgi-b...p?p_faqid=6513

Jodi · 8th July 2008, 12:21

Well, there you go. Vodafone's craptastic iPhone plans means that the cheapest I could get an iPhone that matches my cellphone use model, is to buy it outright and use prepay. Thats, what, $950.

Haha, fuck that.

I love my touch. its nice.

Hmm, what I would actually do, is wait a year or so, pick up two not-working iPhones, and fix them up. hmm.

raab · 8th July 2008, 12:21

http://vodafonenz.custhelp.com/cgi-b...i=&p_topview=1

no visual voicemail either

Juju · 8th July 2008, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat

Um yeah it is.

Did you not read the bit about $979 and $1129 to purchase the 8GB and 16GB respectively without a plan?

How is that not pre-pay?

So people can buy them to put on other contract plans.

Quote:

I am a Vodafone Prepay customers – can I get iPhone 3G on Prepay

Answer
No, iPhone will not be available on Prepay.

You need to have subscribed to either an iPhone plan or alternatively a standard On account plan (You Choose, talkZone, or Corporate) with a compatible Broadband plan for mobiles.

Hazmat · 8th July 2008, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju

It's not available on prepay.

Apologies. You're quite correct.
Wow Vodafone have their heads up their asses.

After this little fiasco,it's become quite clear that Vodafone really don't give a fuck about anything but the almighty dollar.

For the first time in >10 years for me, Telecom are actually looking like the lesser of 2 evils.

OoKiE · 8th July 2008, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Corpse

It's a ponce-tax. Wanna prance around Ponsonby waving your faggy little iPhone around, it'll cost ya.

Akane · 8th July 2008, 12:40

I see that you can buy the iphone with no plans but it says you have to be on a "suitable" plan.

What's stopping you from buying one and just putting your prepay card in it? SIM block?

Juju · 8th July 2008, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akane

SIM block?

Bingo.

Hazmat · 8th July 2008, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju

Simlock...Bingo.

Which will be hax0red within a month of release.
Took what, a few weeks for the iPhone 1.0? I'd expect less for the 3G iPhone, given they've had a year to come to terms with similar hardware / firmware.

mr selfdestruct · 8th July 2008, 13:04

Can't text and walk properly

Frouse · 8th July 2008, 13:20

But since you have to buy the standalone iPhone in person at a store, they will make sure you have a plan for it :P

Haydos · 8th July 2008, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat

For what exactly?
Serious question.

If it wasn't available on pre-pay, maybe. Customers have a choice here.
It's just the majority will be now making the choice to tell Vodafone to go jump.

Last time I checked, it wasn't illegal to import electronics, therefore attempting to lock out phones (as they've said they would) that are purchased overseas due to overseas vendors knowing how to set prices correctly is a breach, no?

Phantom · 8th July 2008, 13:21

I've gone from

to

BadNova · 8th July 2008, 13:24

If you buy this, you are part of the problem.

raab · 8th July 2008, 13:27

http://digg.com/apple/Online_petitio..._iPhone_prices

Juju · 8th July 2008, 13:30

The only reason everyone is getting up a fuss about this is because we now have benchmarks around the world to compare to.
If this was just another phone it wouldnt make a blip because it is priced similer to any other phones vodafone offer on accounts. But because it's the 'iPwned' everyone expects Vodafone to suddenly change their business and subsidy plans.

Not defending Vodafone one bit - it sucks that we are pretty much the most expensive country in the world for everything cellular - but I'm not really that surprised at the pricing. Makes good business sense.

nippun · 8th July 2008, 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju

The only reason everyone is getting up a fuss about this is because we now have benchmarks around the world to compare to.
If this was just another phone it wouldnt make a blip because it is priced similer to any other phones vodafone offer on accounts. But because it's the 'iPwned' everyone expects Vodafone to suddenly change their business and subsidy plans.

So, folks who get the N95 (On Account) pay the same as the iphone over 2 years ? Answered that myself - i.e. if you buy the phone outright and then go one of the on account plans. Hmmmm....

I suppose, get the phone outright and then hax0r it to use it on pre-pay.

Hazmat · 8th July 2008, 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju

The only reason everyone is getting up a fuss about this is because we now have benchmarks around the world to compare to.
If this was just another phone it wouldnt make a blip because it is priced similer to any other phones vodafone offer on accounts. But because it's the 'iPwned' everyone expects Vodafone to suddenly change their business and subsidy plans.

Not defending Vodafone one bit - it sucks that we are pretty much the most expensive country in the world for everything cellular - but I'm not really that surprised at the pricing. Makes good business sense.

The iPhone is the *only* phone Vodafone sell that is not available without being tied to a plan (I may be wrong but even Blackberries can be purchased outright). That's the reason people are up in arms over it.

Dusty · 8th July 2008, 14:07

1gb 24month plan - $250 a month. LOL!

nostrom0 · 8th July 2008, 14:09

Honesty, for 6 grand over two years I’d be expecting a free iphone or two.

Dusty · 8th July 2008, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by nostrom0

Honesty, for 6 grand over two years I’d be expecting a free iphone or two.

Or shares in Vodafone.

Juju · 8th July 2008, 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat

The iPhone is the *only* phone Vodafone sell that is not available without being tied to a plan (I may be wrong but even Blackberries can be purchased outright). That's the reason people are up in arms over it.

Fair enough, sure. It would be interesting to see that if people used it on prepay - how much they would wind up paying for all the data/voice/txt's used over the 24 month period.

Hazmat · 8th July 2008, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju

Fair enough, sure. It would be interesting to see that if people used it on prepay - how much they would wind up paying for all the data/voice/txt's used over the 24 month period.

I planned on using...0 data (use 802.11 at home) and sticking with my current calling / text package. Bollocks to adding another $30 (for a LOL 250MB) pack for data I won't use.

Ashley · 8th July 2008, 15:20

I'm getting the 2GB data plan to start with, but I honestly don't think I'll be using that much. There are SO many open wireless networks around downtown that I can just hop.

So after maybe a months usage I can drop my plan down to the $60 one.

Griven · 8th July 2008, 15:52

Well after considering getting one i can now put those thoughts well and truly out of my head thanks to these plans.

Spidey · 8th July 2008, 15:56

HTC Touch Diamond looks like a good replacement.

Rince · 8th July 2008, 16:06

iPhone plans 'not expensive' in NZ

... when compared to other NZ mobile plans...... LOL. Nice qualifier there.

Genesis · 8th July 2008, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty

1gb 24month plan - $250 a month. LOL!

How and why are the 2 questions that come to mind.

Vodafone, price gouging in NZ since forever. That price is so unjustifiable, it's crazy.

Saladin · 8th July 2008, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat

I planned on using...0 data (use 802.11 at home) and sticking with my current calling / text package. Bollocks to adding another $30 (for a LOL 250MB) pack for data I won't use.

Can't you just get a friend that's on a YouChoose plan to buy the phone, say it's for the them, then jailbreak it to run on your pre-pay sim? Or is the issue that people want to use data on prepay?

p01s0n · 8th July 2008, 16:16

you could do that, but it would lose its warranty, I guess.

I'll be very interested to see if vodafone backtracks on these prices within the next month. Like I read somewhere else, they had the potential to really shake the nz mobile scene up - imagine if you could get the 8gig for $199nz on the iphone 1gig plan for only $80/month. Telecom has nothing at all that could compete with that.

Instead they really fucked themselves over and just managed to reinstate their image of money hungry jackasses.

Remember, as well as paying $80/month for 250mb on a device that is designed for high data usage, you also get the bonus of vodafones world class service and support!

crocos · 8th July 2008, 16:20

$250/month for:
1GB data
600 txt
600 voice minutes

That a fuckload of time spent talking on the phone!

p01s0n · 8th July 2008, 16:28

hmmm yes..this device has a prime focus on bringing mobile internet accessibility to the masses in a usable format. Not to mention strong emphasis on OTA services such as maps/directions, mobile e-mail etc etc.

I know! lets give it a shitload of voice allocation!

Everything about these plans is retarded.

gandalf · 8th July 2008, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by crocos

$250/month for:
1GB data
600 txt
600 voice minutes

That a fuckload of time spent talking on the phone!

Ballocks. My wife does that in a week.

Hazmat · 8th July 2008, 16:45

Just spoke to a Voda rep in store.
The only way you will be able to use the Vodafone network for data is if you have a data plan.
No casual data usage at *all* IE: you can't have the $1 a day for your first 10MB. You *must* have a data plan. They're locking this via APNs in the firmware (love the way he tried to blame Apple's conditions for this one...fucking liar)

That's gonna screw pretty much any overseas iPhone owners from using it as an internet device here. Also travelling overseas. No Data roaming whatsoever.
So even if you manage to get one on prepay from Optus or whoever, you're screwed.

802.11 will work as advertised.

Those $1200 1st gen iPhones at parallel imported are actually looking like a steal now.

p01s0n · 8th July 2008, 16:50

cafenet could potentially make a killing off this whole pricing fiasco.

Also I think I read on geekzone that VoIP over the data connection will be a blocked service.

Waldo · 8th July 2008, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandalf

Ballocks. My wife does that in a week.

you need to put something in her mouth

8th July 2008, 12:12	#401
Baal	wtf

8th July 2008, 12:17	#404
A Corpse talkative lurker	It's a ponce-tax. Wanna prance around Ponsonby waving your faggy little iPhone around, it'll cost ya. __________________ Broke my addiction! Bye bye Eve, hello Minecraft. Wait... >_<

8th July 2008, 13:04	#414
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Can't text and walk properly __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

8th July 2008, 13:21	#417
Phantom May contain nuts	I've gone from to __________________ omgwtf

8th July 2008, 16:06	#431
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	iPhone plans 'not expensive' in NZ ... when compared to other NZ mobile plans...... LOL. Nice qualifier there. __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

8th July 2008, 12:17	#403
xin	Is it just me or are these plans worse than the existing 3G data plans?

8th July 2008, 12:19	#405
Cease	http://vodafonenz.custhelp.com/cgi-b...p?p_faqid=6513

8th July 2008, 12:21	#406
Jodi	Well, there you go. Vodafone's craptastic iPhone plans means that the cheapest I could get an iPhone that matches my cellphone use model, is to buy it outright and use prepay. Thats, what, $950. Haha, fuck that. I love my touch. its nice. Hmm, what I would actually do, is wait a year or so, pick up two not-working iPhones, and fix them up. hmm. __________________ "I distinctly remember leaving my God at home in my room where he won't interfere with my life." -Quan Zee Teng Last edited by Jodi : 8th July 2008 at 12:23.

8th July 2008, 12:21	#407
raab	http://vodafonenz.custhelp.com/cgi-b...i=&p_topview=1 no visual voicemail either

8th July 2008, 12:40	#411
Akane	I see that you can buy the iphone with no plans but it says you have to be on a "suitable" plan. What's stopping you from buying one and just putting your prepay card in it? SIM block?

8th July 2008, 13:20	#415
Frouse	But since you have to buy the standalone iPhone in person at a store, they will make sure you have a plan for it :P

8th July 2008, 13:24	#418
BadNova	If you buy this, you are part of the problem.

8th July 2008, 13:27	#419
raab	http://digg.com/apple/Online_petitio..._iPhone_prices

8th July 2008, 13:30	#420
Juju get to da choppa	The only reason everyone is getting up a fuss about this is because we now have benchmarks around the world to compare to. If this was just another phone it wouldnt make a blip because it is priced similer to any other phones vodafone offer on accounts. But because it's the 'iPwned' everyone expects Vodafone to suddenly change their business and subsidy plans. Not defending Vodafone one bit - it sucks that we are pretty much the most expensive country in the world for everything cellular - but I'm not really that surprised at the pricing. Makes good business sense.

8th July 2008, 14:07	#423
Dusty	1gb 24month plan - $250 a month. LOL!

8th July 2008, 14:09	#424
nostrom0	Honesty, for 6 grand over two years I’d be expecting a free iphone or two.

8th July 2008, 15:20	#428
Ashley Fuck up Ashley	I'm getting the 2GB data plan to start with, but I honestly don't think I'll be using that much. There are SO many open wireless networks around downtown that I can just hop. So after maybe a months usage I can drop my plan down to the $60 one.

8th July 2008, 15:52	#429
Griven	Well after considering getting one i can now put those thoughts well and truly out of my head thanks to these plans.

8th July 2008, 15:56	#430
Spidey	HTC Touch Diamond looks like a good replacement.

8th July 2008, 16:16	#434
p01s0n	you could do that, but it would lose its warranty, I guess. I'll be very interested to see if vodafone backtracks on these prices within the next month. Like I read somewhere else, they had the potential to really shake the nz mobile scene up - imagine if you could get the 8gig for $199nz on the iphone 1gig plan for only $80/month. Telecom has nothing at all that could compete with that. Instead they really fucked themselves over and just managed to reinstate their image of money hungry jackasses. Remember, as well as paying $80/month for 250mb on a device that is designed for high data usage, you also get the bonus of vodafones world class service and support! __________________ \|\|hellameke.com Image host of NZG pro's\|\|Tu meke Tu much\|\|

8th July 2008, 16:20	#435
crocos	$250/month for: 1GB data 600 txt 600 voice minutes That a fuckload of time spent talking on the phone! __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

8th July 2008, 16:28	#436
p01s0n	hmmm yes..this device has a prime focus on bringing mobile internet accessibility to the masses in a usable format. Not to mention strong emphasis on OTA services such as maps/directions, mobile e-mail etc etc. I know! lets give it a shitload of voice allocation! Everything about these plans is retarded. __________________ \|\|hellameke.com Image host of NZG pro's\|\|Tu meke Tu much\|\|

8th July 2008, 16:45	#438
Hazmat I Like Toast	Just spoke to a Voda rep in store. The only way you will be able to use the Vodafone network for data is if you have a data plan. No casual data usage at all IE: you can't have the $1 a day for your first 10MB. You must have a data plan. They're locking this via APNs in the firmware (love the way he tried to blame Apple's conditions for this one...fucking liar) That's gonna screw pretty much any overseas iPhone owners from using it as an internet device here. Also travelling overseas. No Data roaming whatsoever. So even if you manage to get one on prepay from Optus or whoever, you're screwed. 802.11 will work as advertised. Those $1200 1st gen iPhones at parallel imported are actually looking like a steal now. Last edited by Hazmat : 8th July 2008 at 16:49.

8th July 2008, 16:50	#439
p01s0n	cafenet could potentially make a killing off this whole pricing fiasco. Also I think I read on geekzone that VoIP over the data connection will be a blocked service. __________________ \|\|hellameke.com Image host of NZG pro's\|\|Tu meke Tu much\|\|