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Old 24th September 2020, 16:11     #81
smudge
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Can't see anyway of this being resolved that doesn't include an all out fascist coup, or trump being dragged out of the white house by the military at this point.
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Old 24th September 2020, 18:33     #82
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Or, Trump just wins. Because the dems are fuxking useless.
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Old 24th September 2020, 22:26     #83
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Seems pretty clear at this point Trump has no expectation he'll be stepping down from power after the election.

And why would he? He's so far been very successful stepping over the law.
Yea but what's the implication of that then? Does he want people to fight for him if he loses?
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Old 24th September 2020, 23:42     #84
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Or maybe he expects people won't fight him, at least not the ones who could make a difference.
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Old 25th September 2020, 10:16     #85
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Or, Trump just wins. Because the dems are fuxking useless.
Trump and the GOP has gone so far with the voter suppression tactics any win for them won't be legitimate, it's the fascist takeover path.
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Old 27th September 2020, 14:47     #86
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It's either voter suppression, or voter shaming ("you ain't black", "you're racist", "They skinfolk but they aren't kinfolk"). Absentee ballots for Trump got discarded, Mail voting called into question, US Postal Union supports Biden. and the list goes on and on. it's about as clusterfucky as clusterfucks can be.

I don't see how any candidate can get a clean win. People appear to be guided by whichever candidate presents the lower existential threat.
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Old 30th September 2020, 13:52     #87
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What a shit show.
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Old 30th September 2020, 17:00     #88
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Trump knows the debate is a waste of time and no amount of fact checking will hurt him, he basically can say anything at this point and it wont matter, all he needs to do is starve biden of airtime.

moderator did a semi-ok job of giving biden some clear air, but yeah, shit-show.
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Old 30th September 2020, 20:54     #89
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Think they really need to start turning the opposite mics off. Trump will turn anything into shitshow otherwise.
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Old 30th September 2020, 22:29     #90
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Think they really need to start turning the opposite mics off. Trump will turn anything into shitshow otherwise.
But that doesn't cause the drama, but do agree.
Make it an actual fucking debate.
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Old 1st October 2020, 00:44     #91
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Funniest Biden quote for me was: "Of the 20, 200 million, 200 thousand people that have died on his watch - how many of those have survived?"
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Old 1st October 2020, 08:57     #92
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It's weird, I just have no interest in watching the "debate". It would not add anything to my understanding of anything and would not be entertaining. I don't even want to read a summary.
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Old 1st October 2020, 09:57     #93
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This South Park episode rings true every four years in the USA, almost like clockwork.



Once again, America has to decide between a Giant Douche, and a Turd Sandwich.
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Old 1st October 2020, 11:53     #94
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It's weird, I just have no interest in watching the "debate". It would not add anything to my understanding of anything and would not be entertaining. I don't even want to read a summary.
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Old 1st October 2020, 23:51     #95
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True, although also true for our leaders debate. No interest in the tribal displays.

The smaller party debates seems much more fruitful, or maybe a dream dangled just out of reach.
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Old 2nd October 2020, 20:13     #96
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Check out the maori electorate debates on The Hui.
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Old 9th October 2020, 13:44     #97
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Laugh

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Old 14th October 2020, 12:56     #98
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Old 19th October 2020, 15:22     #99
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Inside the Lincoln Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s95VhNZmigw
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Old 19th October 2020, 20:38     #100
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Hunter Biden's hard drives though

Four more years!
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Old 19th October 2020, 23:27     #101
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You mean Nobel Prize winner Hunter Biden?
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Old 20th October 2020, 07:43     #102
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I was more thinking of the Hunter Biden as mentioned here, but I suppose they may be the same person.
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Old 20th October 2020, 11:21     #103
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"It's just too perfect. A laptop is dropped off to a blind computer repairman in the name of Hunter Biden — in the middle of a presidential election — that happens to be filled with extensive documents along with videos of sex and drug use, and it ends up in the hands of the president's lawyer, who publicly admits to working closely with a Ukrainian official that the Trump administration itself has sanctioned as a Russian intelligence asset attempting to interfere in the presidential campaign,"
Sounds legit
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Old 20th October 2020, 13:56     #104
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Emails!
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Old 20th October 2020, 14:19     #105
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What have the president's kids been up to lately? lolz
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Old 20th October 2020, 14:23     #106
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Quote:
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Hunter Biden's hard drives though

Four more years!
Hmmm.

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Old 20th October 2020, 17:26     #107
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and it all happens in the basement of a pizza restaurant
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Old 22nd October 2020, 10:21     #108
Ab
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Because it's 2020, the October Surprise is that Borat checks in to demonstrate that Trump's inner circle are vulnerable to blackmail by Russian agents.
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Old 22nd October 2020, 10:31     #109
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Turns out it was Giuliani himself that was most compromised by Borat's new film.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/202...new-borat-film
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Old 22nd October 2020, 21:58     #110
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I dunno about you guys, but I'm really looking forward to a post-Trump world.

Also, it doesn't have to be the way it is. It could be like the governor race for Utah, for instance.

Spencer Cox & Chris Peterson united to promote civility
https://youtu.be/UaXPQWpkiIo
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Old 23rd October 2020, 11:26     #111
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POTUS plans to bring Hunter Biden associate Tony Bobulinski as a guest to tonight's debate

LOL
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Old 23rd October 2020, 13:52     #112
Nich
 
Yeah, may need to wait 4 more years for that post-Trump world. "the big guy" is going to have to go out for a lot more ice cream to move this story under the bridge.
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Old 23rd October 2020, 14:13     #113
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POTUS plans to bring Hunter Biden associate Tony Bobulinski as a guest to tonight's debate

LOL
Isn't that, you know, desperate? The former business partner of your opponent’s son.
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Old 23rd October 2020, 14:18     #114
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Definitely desperate. It won't convince anyone who isn't already convinced.
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Old 23rd October 2020, 22:20     #115
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And how did that work out for him (Trump)? I heard it was a bit of a non-event.
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Old 24th October 2020, 08:11     #116
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I refuse to believe anyone's on the fence here.
It's so tribal that these sorts of displays are not going to sway anyone.

The only inkling of swaying I've seen in this election are from Trump supporters who can't believe that the thing they were totally OK with happening to other people, is starting to happen to them. But despite all of that, they remain fiercely loyal.

Example 1
Example 2
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Old 24th October 2020, 12:26     #117
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I understood that unlike 2016, this time around there are very few undecided voters, as a lot of people have already made up their mind and voted early.
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Old 30th October 2020, 17:35     #118
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Calling it now. Biden too old.
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Old 31st October 2020, 09:31     #119
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Trump 74
Biden 77

They're both too old m8.
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Old 31st October 2020, 22:22     #120
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At this point it seems like those with a grip on reality, versus those lost to fox news/Q-annon insanity. A "small victory" by Biden will result in a clusterfuck of Trump fighting every state's result to the supreme court.

What I'm hoping for is for Texas, or Georgia, to finally flip back to democrat, that would likely be the end of the current form of the GOP. I can see it fracturing into moderate and looney parties. The progressives versus the centrist democrats/moderate republicans eventually become the new left and right. The entire political spectrum of the US would shift left/reality-based to be more inline with the rest of the world. One can hope.
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