The gaybashing continues!

[A Corpse]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ed-from-caucus

[fixed_truth]

Did he play the gay card?

I hope they expel him.

[Ab]

Too. Much. LOL.

Jesus, what a bitch

[blynk]

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Originally Posted by blynk

Hmm, could this be the start of a "FU Goff, lets get a new leader"

Still don't think this is the end.

[cyc]

National must be loving this.

[Biggus]

Nat will want Goof in as long as possible so there's no competition running up to election year.

[orpheus]

what a dick for handwriting the envelope...he probably had the sender details on the back too.

[StN]

Fuck - I nearly drove off the road when Maggie Barry was interviewing Goff.

"So, is his electorate secretary implicated in this - his partner?"

"No, he's a chap of impeccable character - he wouldn't be involved in such stuff..."

"So are you saying Chris Carter went behind his partners back..?"

[cyc]

Oh the LOLs continue...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10662150

"In a way I wanted to get caught".

[ZoSo]

Almost a dead cert these days that if National has a bad week or two (and it has), Labour saves the day.

[David]

This is a worst case for National in a way.

While it's fucking Labour over, they're already near rock bottom and a new leader might get them some sympathy votes, anyone is better than Goff.

[Ab]

Or, forewarned by Carter, Goff heads off discontent in his own caucus and avoids a leadership challenge before the next election. Goff remains leader, therefore National wins.

[ZoSo]

Another huge 'fuck you' to Goff and now Annette King talking to Maggie Barry just now.

[Ab]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWB7M...layer_embedded

GOOOOOLD

[BillHague]

I imagine that Labour realise that they can't possibly win the next election, and will wait until it's over before changing leaders; it'd be much better for them to start afresh with someone new after losing, rather than have whoever would replace Goff come in now and still inevitably get dicked.

[chubby]

Originally Posted by ZoSo

Almost a dead cert these days that if National has a bad week or two (and it has), Labour saves the day.

Or, forewarned by Carter, Goff heads off discontent in his own caucus and avoids a leadership challenge before the next election. Goff remains leader, therefore National wins.

I imagine that Labour realise that they can't possibly win the next election, and will wait until it's over before changing leaders; it'd be much better for them to start afresh with someone new after losing, rather than have whoever would replace Goff come in now and still inevitably get dicked.

[Cynos]

I do love all the people talking like one-term governments are super common in New Zealand, and that Labour must be failing if National gets a second term.

I count 3 single-term governments total in our history. One was pwned by Norman Kirk dying, one raised taxes on booze, petrol and cigarettes (Black Budget) and the other one seems to have been a government that largely got elected by mistake.

So basically, National would have to fuck stuff right up for Labour to stand a shit show.

[Ab]

I think Chris Carter is a precious, incompetent, arrogant, self-entitled drama Queen. I think he's always been fucking useless.

However - and I say this as a layman in the field of mental health - he does not strike me as mentally ill. I find Labour's attempts to paint him as having had some sort of breakdown quite distasteful.

I see Labour has, once again, trotted Trevor Mallard out to make these sorts of insinuations. What a class act that guy is.

[fixed_truth]

Awesome if Labour called up Laila Harre for Carters seat. Always good to have another lawyer in politics.

[Ab]

Slap in the face for Twyford though.

[fixed_truth]

Yeah it would be the fourth time (in a year?) Twyford has been turned down.

As Chris Trotter said:

Clearly, being an intelligent and compassionate human-being, with an impeccable background in the voluntary/humanitarian sector, counts for far less in Labour circles than having a few union mates and a vagina.

[Saladin]

Reckon Ab's second favourite blog is on the money about Carter..

http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/08...ed-impediment/

[Ab]

Originally Posted by Saladin

Reckon Ab's second favourite blog is on the money about Carter..

http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2010/08...ed-impediment/

Plimmerton School represent.

Danyl's right on the money, especially this bit:

for most politicians being a senior Cabinet Minister is the culmination of their political career: after an election defeat a victorious few will go on to lead the party but the rest typically shuffle off into roles as ambassadors, directorships, memoir-writing, international appointments etc, or get relegated to the back-benches post coup. But almost all of Labour’s old cabinet are still in there, grimly hanging onto their safe electorate seats and high list rankings, irritably drumming their fingers on their desks while waiting for their leader to restore them to their natural and appropriate positions in Beehive offices, crown limos and five-star hotel rooms.

[Cynos]

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Yeah it would be the fourth time (in a year?) Twyford has been turned down.

As Chris Trotter said:

Yeah, interesting reading that Shane Jones' prospects within Labour may be screwed after his expenses debacle - not because he abused a privilege, but because he watched porn.

Turns out the feminist bloc don't cotton to that kinda carry-on.

[Ab]

Holy loly at this morning's developments.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...s-about-Carter

Goff: I have no problem with workers taking pay in lieu of one of their four weeks of leave.

Andrew Little: Labour policy is four weeks leave. End of story.

Goff: Carter is toast.

Andrew Little: No he's not.

(note: contrary to appearances only one of these men is in fact the leader of the Labour Party)

[Ab]

Suspended Labour MP Chris Carter has asked for two months leave from Parliament from Speaker Lockwood Smith because he is unwell.

Labour president Andrew Little said today Mr Carter was seeking appropriate treatment, but his leave application meant any decision on his membership of the Labour Party was unlikely to be made this week.

"The Labour Party has been advised that Chris Carter is unwell, that he is getting appropriate help, and that he will be on leave from Parliament for approximately two months,'' Mr Little said.

''The Party is pleased that he is getting the help he needs. Our rules state that Chris Carter needs the opportunity to be heard before any disciplinary action is taken. He will not be able to do that on Saturday because he is unwell.''

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...asks-for-leave

Now, why do I get the impression that Chris Carter is a protected species?

Labour candidate -- oops, I meant President of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union -- oops, I mean Labour Party President Andrew Little has basically said "hands off Chris Carter, he's staying on an MPs salary but he won't be coming to Parliament, and no decision has been made to punish him for trying to backstab Phil Goff and then trash talking him in the media for 3 days running."

Helen's pet is still untouchable. Lesson: if you want a future in the Labour Party, don't fuck with the unions or the gays. Lesson 2: Andrew Little is in charge.

[verve_rat]

Oooooorrrrrrrr, he is mentally ill and Labour don't want to be the party that kicked an unwell gay in the balls.

Looks to me like they are trying to put him in the funny farm with the least amount of fallout. Because he's gay.

[fixed_truth]

Originally Posted by Ab

Now, why do I get the impression that Chris Carter is a protected species? . . . don't fuck with the gays

Whatever the reason they're going soft on him I'm not sure that they're protecting teh gay vote. It was only 5yrs ago that 90% of the National Party voted against gay couples having the same rights as hetero couples. If I liked the penis it would be a long time before I supported National.

[Ab]

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Whatever the reason they're going soft on him I'm not sure that they're protecting teh gay vote. It was only 5yrs ago that 90% of the National Party voted against gay couples having the same rights as hetero couples. If I liked the penis it would be a long time before I supported National.

I don't think they care about the gay vote, I think they care about the support of the Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender faction within the Labour Party itself.

[fidgit]

TBH pretty much expect to wake up any day now to see that Goff's been booted out in a late night coup and Andrew Little is now leading. Still doesn't make me want to vote for Labour (and I'm very much not-right-wing) though. I appreciate politics is all about the internal power struggle, but I can't see the people who had this much trouble sorting their own shit out having any shot at running the country any better than National are now.

Plus, 3 weeks was enough leave imo. Two at Christmas and a midyear break. Anything more and you're being too damn lazy.

[Ab]

Today blogs on both the left (e.g. Dim-post) and right (e.g. Kiwiblog) have offered an alternative to the scenario I hypothesised above.

The alternative put forward is that, in a move of pure fucking judo jenious, Carter has responded to the allegations of mental illness from the panicked Labour Right by turning that back upon them.

"OK, if I'm unbalanced from all this stress - stress which I have suffered at my place of work - then you, oh Wise and Generous Leader Goff, are under an obligation to offer me assistance and to help us both work to a mutually-acceptable resolution of this situation. Because I ain't on no fucking 90-day probation, and all these accusations of mental illness and talk of arbitrary expulsion from my organisation with no consultation makes me feel nervous. And when I get nervous, I get scared. And when motherfuckers get scared, that's when motherfuckers accidentally get SUED.

"So I'll be taking a couple of months in the Cook Islands and drinking colourful things with little umbrellas in them, and when I get back you can suck my cock. OK? Fabulous."

This would be so utterly fantastic that, oh, shit Danyl at Dim-Post said it best:

Carter’s response to Labour’s smear is so brilliant it constitutes prima facie evidence that he is not unwell at all. Actually it’s so brilliant it’s probably not his idea.

[StN]

That's one sly, sly fox.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Ab

Today blogs on both the left (e.g. Dim-post)

I thought he was a progressive-conservative?

[Ab]

Too many lols to copy and paste.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...engages-lawyer

[fixed_truth]

MPs can take up to 14 days leave of absence without permission but if they take longer than that are docked $10 a day from their pay for each day they are away.

Naughty Naughty
/borat

[Ab]

It looks like I was way off target with my guess that Andrew Little is on Carter's side in this - all the articles seem to be lumping Little in with Goff in Team Oops We're Fucked.

[CCS]

Originally Posted by John Key

"He didn't look very sick to me last week. He looked fairly exercised about the fact that he didn't think Phil Goff could win an election, but he didn't look terribly sick."

That's a bit retarded. Carter is on stress leave, isn't he? What does a stress person look like? A bit frazzled? Eyes darting around? Clammy palms? Or is it more of a mental thing which is not obvious from simply looking at a person?

[Cynos]

Originally Posted by CCS

That's a bit retarded. Carter is on stress leave, isn't he? What does a stress person look like? A bit frazzled? Eyes darting around? Clammy palms? Or is it more of a mental thing which is not obvious from simply looking at a person?

Sweating in comically large drops, tongue sticking out, saying "ack":

[CCS]

OMG! Cathy is clearly stressed! Put her on stress leave! Chris, you look fine. You stay at work.

[fidgit]

Originally Posted by CCS

That's a bit retarded. Carter is on stress leave, isn't he? What does a stress person look like? A bit frazzled? Eyes darting around? Clammy palms? Or is it more of a mental thing which is not obvious from simply looking at a person?

I thought he was taking time off because he was "sick". I don't actually recall ever seeing someone suggesting he was mentally ill. Sure that's the implication, but I think John's got a point - if no one's saying he's mental-sick, the obvious implication is that he is physically unwell, in which case, he should be showing symptoms.



Voting NZFirst next election now TBH.