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21st January 2013, 08:58 | #82 |
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i wouldnt mind force feedback gloves and a gun like peripheral, both tracked in game.
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21st January 2013, 09:53 | #83 |
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http://www.amazon.com/Force-Touch-Fe.../dp/0471021415
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=fo...edback+texture still waiting for that was patented pre-2000
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21st January 2013, 17:11 | #84 | |
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I figure with some refined kind of Kinect tech, you could generate a representation of your body and movements in-game (latency would be the main barrier, along with fidelity), which would be a trip on a few levels. Having a body in game that responds in sync with your actual body movements...
It makes me think of that treatment for phantom limb syndrome... put one on someone's head, render both their limbs, reverse the input so when they move their healthy limb, it looks like they're moving the missing one.
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22nd January 2013, 00:03 | #86 |
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Hence my reference to Leap Motion w/ oculus. If at least you can see your arms (or claws?) you can interact with the environment
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22nd January 2013, 00:29 | #87 |
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Yeah, yeah, totally! So that plus some ultrasonic wave emitters, and you could create a virtual keyboard or whatever kind of interface you want.
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22nd January 2013, 11:07 | #89 |
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Luckey is talking about playing around with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvani...ar_stimulation
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22nd January 2013, 15:03 | #93 |
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Why? If the visual movement matches what your inner ear is detecting, you're less likely to be sick, not more.
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22nd January 2013, 16:29 | #94 |
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That would be pretty neat. Would it mean I could be lying back or at an incline, but feel like I'm upright? Or even be flipped over, as in facing the earth? If you can see what I'm going for there...
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22nd January 2013, 16:53 | #95 | |
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Not sure someone wants to experience shellshock THAT realistically all the time. Sure it would be good for a go though! Also consider playing portal . . . |
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22nd January 2013, 17:17 | #96 | |
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22nd January 2013, 17:56 | #97 |
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Can we sense gravity? I thought only balance/acceleration, which is what galvanic vestibular stimulation messes with. If I understand it, which I don't think I really do, or at least far from completely.
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22nd January 2013, 18:25 | #98 | |
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AFAIK there is some sort of pouch in your inner ear that houses little pellets that roll around. motion causes them to roll which is picked up by the surrounding tissue. Apparently they can get into a state where they have gotten somewhere they shouldn't, causing vertigo. When presented with these symptoms a doctor will give you a series of head movement instructions, which after doing in order will magically cure you. Its just the movement required to move the pellets back into the pouch. Note: I am not a biologist. Artistic license taken! But anyway; given that you should sense gravity. Also probably why you sense falling (aside from your stomach content taking flight!) Last edited by _indigo1 : 22nd January 2013 at 18:28. |
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Seems I was right though. Just replace pellet with crystal. Last edited by _indigo1 : 22nd January 2013 at 21:17. |
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22nd January 2013, 21:16 | #103 |
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22nd January 2013, 22:48 | #105 |
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Getting my lols - please continue. Maybe next go into how leeches affect balance. Can't wait!
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23rd January 2013, 00:47 | #106 | |
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hold it there and count to 30+ seconds. Feel that? ITS GRAVITY! Unless you're asking if we can sense the curvature of space, in which case the answer is no O.o Last edited by _indigo1 : 23rd January 2013 at 00:50. |
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Nothing is sensed directly, it's impossible. Ask our friend Heisenburg. Also, how can I be sensing acceleration if my arm has no speed delta. It's not acceleration; it's an impulse force. Last edited by _indigo1 : 23rd January 2013 at 00:52. |
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23rd January 2013, 01:13 | #109 |
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Well, you'd feel a similar strain if you had weights on your wrists and you tried to keep them by your sides while spun very fast. So it's NOT gravity you're feeling. Nor is it acceleration. Acceleration is sensed in the ear. I think your tired arms might just be muscle strain.
You lift?
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23rd January 2013, 01:17 | #110 |
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Wikipedia seems to suggest infact the inner ear can detect gravity, through linear acceleration. I can't say I really understand the implications of that...
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23rd January 2013, 01:25 | #111 |
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The force of gravity is not distinguishable from other impulse forces like centripetal forces.
The only way to measure gravity proper is spacetime distortion. We cannot do that biologically. Anyway; thread hijacked? Last edited by _indigo1 : 23rd January 2013 at 01:30. |
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spergjacked maybe
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23rd January 2013, 07:50 | #113 |
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Spergjacked by pseudoscience loomers.
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23rd January 2013, 09:30 | #114 |
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Yes, yes, we know Pimp-X, all your scientific knowledge is completely formal or at least you would never dare open your mouth about any scientific knowledge that is simply lay. We are humbled before your glory, O Powerful One.
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23rd January 2013, 11:20 | #115 | |
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Give me your definition of gravity including quanta and wave characteristics. Whats that? You cant? (Note: if you care about this threads topic, don't eat the troll food. Also ignore if you were referring to lightspeed) Last edited by _indigo1 : 23rd January 2013 at 11:43. |
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23rd January 2013, 13:40 | #117 | |
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If we could just rejoin common reality for a moment - what the fuck does the definition of gravity have to do with holding your arms out to the side 'sensing gravity' (wow, why not make a TV show out of that!), or .. hang on. Did someone say a pouch of pellets in the inner ear? That's not.. er.. lay anything. That's fiction. Sorry, I can't possibly take any of this seriously anymore because I'm overcome by the force of laughter! Edit: Holy shit, I glossed over Heisenberg being associated with sense data. Shark = jumped. Please carry on.
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Brush up on your quantum theory friend. Non-fermions (which I am taking gravity to have a quanta of in lieu of graviton not being discovered yet, as other forces aren't fermions, see below) cannot be 'sensed' directly. The mere measurement of something causes it to alter state along with the measurer itself. Therefore you NEVER 'sense' a force. You sense a forces effect on your fermions. Read up on Heisenburg, YOU YOURSELF probably have a laymans interpretation of the uncertainty principle. Now, to the gravitons; your entire argument from the start is fundamentally flawed. ALL discussion of gravity is pseudoscience, because we have NO understanding of it thus far, and indeed are yet to even find it's information carrying wave/particles if they even exist. Yes we can measure it's effects and calculate expected outcomes in common everyday situations, but our formulas fall flat on their face in others. You sir; are a modern day Phlogistonite Last edited by _indigo1 : 23rd January 2013 at 14:20. |
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One thing I do have an idea about is - I bet you're a hit at parties. Some of that shit seems vaguely familiar but if I was to level with you, I probably skipped that class to get drunk and fuck chicks.
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