Random Politics

[Ab]

The demographics of SenateSHJ's NZ team are...interesting:

https://senateshj.com.au/our-people/...&role=&search=

[Ab]

According to newly-released poll results, the social issue that New Zealanders most strongly oppose is giving biological males access to women’s spaces - greater opposition than even “co-governance”

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/race-rela...-election-poll

[Lightspeed]

So that's the low hanging fruit if you're chasing a populist agenda.

That and rejecting the founding obligations of our nation/continuing to disregard long neglected infrastructure.

That all fits.

[Lightspeed]

UK's Sunak says emergency law will ensure legal action can't delay Rwanda migrant flights

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said on Wednesday his government will introduce emergency legislation that will confirm that Rwanda is a safe country, after the Supreme Court ruled that the scheme to send asylum seekers there was unlawful.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

[Lightspeed]

I think Argentina's woes are not behind it yet:

Argentine election winner Milei greeted globally by mix of hostility and support

The victory of Argentina's libertarian President-elect Javier Milei at the weekend has sparked mixed reactions worldwide - including hostility from some Latin American leftists, tentative support from others, and a pledge from China to work with him despite his critical comments.

Milei, a self-described anarcho-capitalist, channeled voter anger over a deep economic crisis and years of economic dysfunction to win by double-digits in Sunday's runoff vote.

[Ab]

I see he just asserted Argentine sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, which has never caused problems before.

[Lightspeed]

Government births, deaths and marriages IT project halted

A $150 million government IT project has gone so badly off track it has been called to a halt.

The Department of Internal Affairs yesterday admitted to RNZ it has called a stop to the huge project that had aimed to take all births, deaths and marriages data online in the cloud.

I figure it's the usual trying to keep too many important people with important opinions happy that comes along with government projects.

[Redneck]

"Could we just add this... and also this... and how about this..."

[Lightspeed]

Israel’s top court strikes down key legal reform in blow to Netanyahu

The planned overhaul sparked months of mass protests, threatened to trigger a constitutional crisis between the judicial and legislative branches of government, and rattled the cohesion of Israel's powerful military.

Those divisions were largely put aside after Hamas militants carried out a bloody cross-border attack in southern Israel on Oct. 7, triggering a war that has raged in Gaza for nearly three months. But Monday's court decision could reignite those tensions even while the country remains at war.

[blynk]

Originally Posted by Redneck

"Could we just add this... and also this... and how about this..."

Yeah, but half of these things are probably so badly underfunded and not kept to up to date, that a lot of requests are just things that you should be able to do these days.

Request: Can we have a online form that will allow us to do ...
Existing Process: Send a fax through to an OCR scanner that will then have a user verify the information and will fax back confirmation, any missing information will cause it to decline and need to be resubmitted.

[Lightspeed]

I think a Ministry of IT would benefit the government.

Except it wouldn't work of course, it would cost loads of money and it's politically more astute to say yes to cheap projects that snowball than committing to spending what's actually needed. Inevitably an incompetent minister would gut it for the sake of someone's tax cuts.

[xor]

nah, current lack of accountability suggests people should not have to donate any more of their cash to a bunch of bureaucrats who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

[xor]

Golriz Goneburgers.

[fixed_truth]

Should have stolen a drink bottle lid.

[Ab]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/viva/fash...L7b7vLUo3veRgM

[blynk]

I have seen an interesting take in comments, that a symptom of MS is disinhibition, which could be a reason of why she might do something like that.

It does seem a bit odd, that someone in government to be doing something like that.
Or maybe shes just too young to know that MPs are meant to rip people off behind the scenes where its hard to get caught

[xor]

The bigger problem imo is that a lawyer is meant to uphold the law has broken it. She should be disbarred.
The Greens party have also interfered with a police investigation which akaik is a very serious offense.

She can GTFO and forgo her politicians pension

[Lightspeed]

Hahaha, the sharks are circling.

The government are going to be disappointed this won't drag out. They're going to looking for every distraction they can find while looting the vault.

It must be overwhelming working in government while caring about something other than money for rich people.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by xor

She can GTFO and forgo her politicians pension

I recall a politician who would unapologetically impinge upon a young person against the advice of their own wife. In that case as well, the media let docorum lapse in the pursuit of a juicy story, misleading the young person to get extra details about the story.

This is a bit of an own goal tho. They could have let due process play out, kept the rumours churning, new accusations dripping in.

But, as is the status quo, the future doesn't exist, we want everything now. The future can burn. Literally. 🤷

Oh, but let's in this case make of show of us being a righteous and just community! Oooh, tut-tut lawyer! lolz

[xor]

No idea what you're talking about, more babble i suppose. I'd rather our politicians and govt agencies be held to account and not have the tax payer donate their coin to subsidize a criminal politician for the rest of their life.

[xor]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...lriz-ghahraman

Slick

[DrTiTus]

Her resignation came after Stuff revealed Ghahraman was facing a third allegation of shoplifting, in Wellington.

ahahha, serial thief

No amount of whataboutism can distract from her being morally and ethically deficient - her "mental health" will suffer more now, after quitting her job in shame and reflecting on the fact that her reputation will now be "the MP who quit after getting caught shoplifting".

Oh well, choices have consequences. No sympathy from me.

[Lightspeed]

Oh well, choices have consequences.

Only choices made by an individual. If we band together to make a choice, we get to ignore the consequences.

[DrTiTus]

https://twitter.com/golrizghahraman/...55678419746820

Normally a comment like this wouldn't be a big deal (whatever relationship she has with her family is her business), but in the current context, it does look kind of bad.

[wazza]

hectic. apparently the stress from her job turned her into a thief. was just watching some clip on nzherald.

imagine that, you're stressed out with work, so you cruise in to some boushy label and start lifting shit off the rack and place it into your purse.

[Lightspeed]

Yeah, that's exactly how people break down.

It's like no one was really surprised Ardern stepped down. The abuse female politicians face is absurd.

[DrTiTus]

She was not aware of her mental health issues until she got caught, but now it's very obvious, she knows about them, and everyone else should believe it's true too.

Clearly mental health, because shoplifting, and video evidence.

Who needs to see a psychiatrist when you can see your video all over the news. Instant diagnosis.

[Lightspeed]

Indeed, that's exactly how it works. If there's a better explanation of human behaviour than the unconscious model, it hasn't been developed yet.

People don't like that shit tho. We love our simple judgements, we love uncritical blaming.

[xor]

Originally Posted by jshaw or mdavidson

Let us be clear that no other Green Party MPs were involved in the alleged incident

https://twitter.com/investigatemag/s...08275722858752

oof, looks like ol' Chloe was in on the action

[fixed_truth]

Chronic stress effects human behaviour?!? Sounds like witchcraft to me, burn the witch!

[DrTiTus]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Indeed, that's exactly how it works. If there's a better explanation of human behaviour than the unconscious model, it hasn't been developed yet.

We don't need to explain it. We don't need a model. We just need leaders who are honest, don't shoplift, and know themselves well enough to know when they've bitten off more than they can chew. Leaders resign for a number of reasons - it's not uncommon for someone to resign. It's not a job I'd want personally - I'm sure it's shit being in the public eye, being judged, talked about by people who have never spoken to you, decide they don't like you at all based on a single thing you said that they disagree with, etc. I don't envy her.

Some models may suggest that trauma or stress lead to erratic behaviour or bad decisions. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I can see how it might - but that's not my concern. I only care that she broke the rules [is of bad character], got caught, and is now gone - as she should be. Her own mental health, and the reasons for her behaviour are for her to manage. If she makes bad decisions under pressure, and the job is high pressure and requires you to make good decisions that affect other people's lives, we don't need her as part of the leadership of this country.

That Chloe is implicated makes this even more entertaining.

[xor]

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Chronic stress effects human behaviour?!? Sounds like witchcraft to me, burn the witch!

When Uffindell was 16, he cracked someone with a wooden bed leg because of the stress of life. /s

Funny how the left are more sympathetic to an adult than a 16 year old kid when it comes to the trials and tribulations of life.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by DrTiTus

We just need leaders who are honest

...

That Chloe is implicated makes this even more entertaining.

We don't vote for leaders who are honest.

We're as interested in being entertained as we are anything else.

So we get what we get. Any expectations otherwise are naive.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by xor

When Uffindell was 16, he cracked someone with a wooden bed leg because of the stress of life. /s

Funny how the left are more sympathetic to an adult than a 16 year old kid when it comes to the trials and tribulations of life.

Funny how we're more sympathetic to someone constantly enduring a toxic public engaging in petty theft, over a privileged child tormenting those weaker than them.

You play real hard to type Mavis of the Vapours.

[Lightspeed]

The Savagery Directed at Golriz

New Zealand has an amazing ability to drop the mask, and its not very pleasant underneath.

[xor]

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Funny how we're more sympathetic to someone constantly enduring a toxic public engaging in petty theft, over a privileged child tormenting those weaker than them.

You play real hard to type Mavis of the Vapours.

What is this 'we' business? I'm not sympathetic to either. But, i think it's fairly obvious that the media gave Golriz an easy way out compared with Uffindel.

[Lightspeed]

What is this "the left" business?

The nature of the abuse thrust at Golriz is of a completely different quality to what Uffindel faced. Golriz faces that abuse just because it's Tuesday.

You seem blind to that? Are you?

[xor]

The left = authoritarian, identity driven political parties (namely labour/greens)

Abuse didn't force Golriz to steal. Just as much as <insert variable> didn't force Uffindel to bash a fellow student when he was at school. It's just some bs excuse.

[Lightspeed]

Wow, I don't think you could project any harder. That's crackup.

Shut the fuck up about "force" you stupid fuck. Hahaha, fucking talkback radio behaviourism.

I mean, go on if you want. It's just absurd you pretending you know things.

[xor]

ah right, not her fault. I forgot. That's another trait of the left. Oppressed vs Oppressor thinking. It's probably my fault.