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20th October 2022, 16:13 | #3121 |
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I mean it seems to me that Great Reset / Global Elite / Stakeholder Capitalism concerns are behind a lot of your discussion points and opinions.
Might as well stop dancing around it and come right out and discuss it directly. I'd be interested to see how deep the rabbit hole goes - but it doesn't always belong in the thread at hand. For example in this case, what's the specific beef with Digital ID. |
20th October 2022, 16:25 | #3122 |
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Correct, and fair enough.
The short answer regarding Digital ID, CBDC. I don't want to live in this world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkR9QWuoyJ8 software user interfaces controlled by some arbitrary algorithm that makes everyday life micromanaged, less enjoyable, less convenient. I'm not joking when I say I'd rather die, which is to say I'd be willing to die trying to escape or stop this from taking hold for me and my family.
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20th October 2022, 17:56 | #3123 |
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I'm interested but I don't really want to reroute this thread into discussing Digital ID as I imagine there are many worms in this can.
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20th October 2022, 18:06 | #3124 |
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LOL I was expecting that YT to be some mouthpiece talking about Digital ID and all the issues with it etc.
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20th October 2022, 18:20 | #3125 |
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=) layers of frustrating bureaucracy, systems, and meek public-facing employees distilled to 10 seconds. Only difference is these days the computer can tell you "No" directly.
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20th October 2022, 18:28 | #3126 |
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I mean, TBH if you wanted to stop institutions and computers arbitrating our interaction with society, you kinda already missed the boat.
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22nd October 2022, 11:58 | #3127 |
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Never too late to start saying "No"
20th october: CDC vote to add COVID vaccines (all still EUA, not approved) to routine childhood vaccine schedule https://twitter.com/backtolife_2023/...6T-5dCbrN96Z9Q 21st October: Pfizer to increase COVID vaccine price to $110 (was ~$17) https://news.yahoo.com/pfizer-expect...211733707.html Pfizer is legally immune if their drug is EUA, or on childhood vaccine schedule. Therefore, I predict next week or so the USA will officially announce COVID emergency is over. COVID emergency was the scaffold, now they reveal the structure underneath. The digital biosecurity panopticon from hell.
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23rd October 2022, 10:18 | #3128 |
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So the independent review of the AU Gov Covid response is fairly scathing...lockdowns/border closures/school closures did nothing apart from fuck everyone financially and mentally. Plus the extra bonus of ruining students educations..
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23rd October 2022, 12:19 | #3129 |
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Good. Next step is sending lockdown schemers to prison. No forgiveness.
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23rd October 2022, 13:00 | #3130 |
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It's frustrating the number of studies that have come out showing that Ivermectin is ineffective (except the rare case you're riddling with parasites before infection), resources that could have been spent on something other than disproving cons of their bullshit.
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23rd October 2022, 22:03 | #3131 |
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Ok, in that case none. Because lockdowns don't work, and the balance of benefit / risk is very much stacked toward risk.
A LITERATURE REVIEW AND META-ANALYSIS OF THE EFFECTS OF LOCKDOWNS ON COVID-19 MORTALITY https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/fi...-Mortality.pdf Quote:
Bugger all impact on COVID. An independent review into Australia’s response to COVID-19 https://independentcovidreview.com/w...LT-LINES-1.pdf Quote:
and absolute hell for non-woke, non-laptop class. It is the hubris of Western thinking and medicine that the only thing that matters is prolonging life, at the complete abandonment of ensuring that life is worth living. Cancer pathway is the perfect example of this: The drugs make every waking moment excruciating, numb, with zero capacity of clear thought. But they lived for 10 years! Well, this pandemic they proved they can't even save people from COVID. No matter how much they banged on about "saving lives" and "being COVID kind". They RUINED lives.
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New study links COVID vaccines to 25% increase in cardiac arrest for both males & females
Study based on data from emergency services. COVID infection itself not linked to significant increase in cardiovascular complications. https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/328529 Quote:
Myocarditis-induced Sudden Death after BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination in Korea: Case Report Focusing on Histopathological Findings https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8524235/ Quote:
Doctors are just "baffled", it's all so "sudden" and "unexpected" ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOINgQIr6lc&t=8s
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26th October 2022, 15:42 | #3134 | |
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FDA urged to publish follow-up studies on covid-19 vaccine safety signals
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FDA 2021: We see a 42-91% relative risk increase in acute myocardial infarction, disseminated intravascular coagulation, immune thrombocytopenia, and pulmonary embolism associated with Pfizer injections. We're on the case and we will update everyone on our findings! FDA 2022: ... the speed of science.
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26th October 2022, 17:22 | #3135 |
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My friend I hung out with on Saturday told me just now that he tested positive. Rather than panicking, I just laughed because he's vaccinated. I was eating a mandarin at the time, so I don't really care, I'm good.
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26th October 2022, 17:58 | #3136 | |
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26th October 2022, 18:12 | #3137 |
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Jeez mate, I'm not that sick. That's a power move for those in serious condition.
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26th October 2022, 19:06 | #3138 |
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Covid vaccine injury payouts explode to $77 million, budget reveals (Australia)
And we still didn't save Grandma. Come on guys, trust science, trust the bullshit numbers, trust your government, trust Pfizer, trust everything, but don't trust your instinct.
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The vast majority of people had a slightly sore arm after injection. It wouldn't be right to therefore assume everyone's immune system is fucked *. You can't feel your IgG IgA response, you need to get bloodwork done to see your levels, but even then you need to get that done a week or 2 after injection because after your IgG, IgA peak your immune system calms down, and hopefully your T cell immunity learned a useful new trick for any future infections.
The only measure of protection from any vaccine is: We injected the attenuated virus, and your body reacted. If you have a normal immune system, your T cells will recall and trigger a proper immune response if you encounter the real virus. Theoretical effectiveness on COVID vaccines hinges on whether an immune response to Wuhan spike protein alone (ie, some random genetic data sent from China on 11 Jan 2020) is enough to provide robust protection against the real virus made up of Spike but also Membrane, Envelope, and Nucleocapsid. I think the idea was that the Spike is how the virus binds to cells, so immunity to that protein means virus cannot bind and replicate, and that no pathogenic effect was associated with the other proteins, and they were wrong. There's so much misinformation, but somewhere I read vaccine Spike protein was different to the Wuhan virus spike. I think this was gaslighting to steer people away from fact that vaccine Spike was/is causing more harm as virus Spike. Anyway, different vaccine Spike should call into question vaccines even more that they provide wrong protection. Anyway, indeed blood tests revealed that those injected had a IgA, and IgG response. But did the response provide correlative protection? Let's let Pfizer VP answer that: https://twitter.com/mindybee14/statu...94586446557185 Quote:
OK, but the Pfizer trial, and real world data showed that the unvaccinated were more likely to be infected. Therefore we can presume the injections are indeed providing protection and the measurable immune response is the right one. Unfortunately, this is a statistical trick that's easy to demonstrate. The trick is in the 7-14 days until the vaccine is "working". https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...cination/after ""It takes 7 to 14 days after a dose before you are fully protected. "" (ie 0-14 days after injection you are counted as unvaccinated, >14 days you are vaccinated) Let's see the trick clearly demonstrated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4LcPF87YLE Here it is in Alberta, Canada data: https://web.archive.org/web/20220107...ccine-outcomes This image is perfect. It shows 0-14 days after injection there's a glaring safety signal, AND at 5-8 months vaccine effectiveness drops to negative (ie more likely to get sick compared to unvaccinated self). Why hide what happens in the first two weeks after vaccination? https://www.hartgroup.org/why-do-the...r-vaccination/ Vaccine effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infection with the Omicron or Delta variants following a two-dose or booster BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 vaccination series: A Danish cohort study https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....20.21267966v2 Effectiveness of mRNA-1273 against infection and COVID-19 hospitalization with SARSCoV-2 Omicron subvariants: BA.1, BA.2, BA.2.12.1, BA.4, and BA.5 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...573v1.full.pdf * although after 3-4 injections, negative VE, immune imprinting it's heading in that direction
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27th October 2022, 13:08 | #3142 |
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you are correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp-nPZETLTo&t=1198s So your body is trained to fight a Spike protein that it will never encounter in the wild.
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27th October 2022, 13:26 | #3143 |
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lol, so predictable.
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27th October 2022, 14:41 | #3144 |
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It's not so accurate to say "there's so much misinformation", more accurately there is endless information. Information varying in quality and volume. A subset of which is robust, another subset is misinformation. More information than can be processed, thus subject to bias and opportunity cost.
Not knowing is a fundamental existential concern, a vulnerability we all share which is inescapable.
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27th October 2022, 15:33 | #3146 | |
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27th October 2022, 16:40 | #3147 |
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Like when the US Centers for Disease Control reassures everyone that masks aren't necessary, nothing to see here.
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27th October 2022, 16:53 | #3148 | |
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27th October 2022, 17:16 | #3149 |
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This is how I imagine the fall of Rome played out.
Barbarians down the street beheading and raping, and high-minded individuals -- instead of fleeing -- debating how extraordinary it is that one could even ponder the plausibility of Rome being less than mighty and holy.
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27th October 2022, 18:46 | #3150 |
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We have mobile phones. We can debate while running.
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27th October 2022, 19:32 | #3152 |
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Comments section imploring that they not add experimental COVID vaccines to the USA Childhood Routine Vaccine Schedule.
https://www.regulations.gov/docket/C...-0111/comments They did it anyway 15-0 "No conflict of interest". More beheading, more raping. Fuck it.
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29th October 2022, 17:04 | #3153 |
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Here you go Nich; have a clown fiesta:
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29th October 2022, 23:16 | #3154 |
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What am I suppose to be looking at? I thought the SA scientists who supposedly discovered omicron theorised mouse mutation jumping back to humans.
So this is the evidence? cool. Also, animal reservoir is another reason a vaccine is doomed to fail
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30th October 2022, 12:18 | #3155 |
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https://www.population.net.au/popula...w-south-wales/ Population: 8.12 million https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...ers-statistics 72% with 3 or more doses https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...w-20221022.pdf 3+ doses: 78% infections 53% ICU 75% Deaths No benefit, all risk.
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30th October 2022, 12:48 | #3156 |
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Sorry wrong proportion of NSW with 3 or more doses
72% was nationwide, 53% is NSW negative benefit, all risk.
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https://twitter.com/amandwivedi48/st...10405177397249
All those chest compressions - that's some funny shit. Are you OK?
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30th October 2022, 19:20 | #3159 |
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these vaccine surveillance reports were used to show how well the injections worked, so it's fair they also be used to show how poor they are.
a number I would accept from a working vaccine is 0-5% of vaccinated falling sick, in ICU, or dead from the disease they are vaccinated against. Maybe what you're trying to say is that triple jabbed are more likely to be hypochondriac (have sniffles, must get tested). Otherwise, you'll have to explain how survivorship bias applies here. Cos i'm a big dummie.
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