|
29th July 2013, 14:28 | #1 |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
YELLOW PERIL YELLOW PERIL
Oh fuck there's so much fail coming out of Labour one does not know where to start.
|
29th July 2013, 14:40 | #2 |
Mmm... Sacrilicious
|
It is definitely a ploy to gain the racist vote but at the same time, restricting home ownership to people living in NZ is surely going to *help* the housing market bullshit that is currently reality. It just won't help all that much.
CGT will have a greater effect and I'm all for that (on 2nd+ houses). |
29th July 2013, 14:45 | #3 | |
Nothing to See Here!
|
Quote:
|
|
29th July 2013, 14:59 | #4 |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
its a policy that as usual appears to have been announced based on no actual research and with no thought given to how it will be perceived. It's almost like David Shearer just woke up one morning and decided "ooh we'd better announce something to get the support of NZ First voters". When a policy ad leads in with a statement like OVERSEAS SPECULATORS ARE DRIVING UP HOUSE PRICES the first thing you should say is "are they? prove it". As far as I am aware, most NZ residential property owned by non-residents is purchased by Australians in the process of moving to NZ or by Kiwis living overseas. So, Labour: show me some fucking numbers. |
29th July 2013, 15:02 | #5 | |
|
Quote:
i can see how it'd make money for the govt, but not how it'll make houses cheaper? (i still laugh at Aucklanders wanting 'the kiwi dream'. seriously?) |
|
29th July 2013, 15:05 | #6 |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
Labour just said to every baby boomer in Auckland "the value of your investment properties just dropped. You're welcome."
|
29th July 2013, 15:07 | #7 | |
|
Quote:
|
|
29th July 2013, 15:09 | #8 | |
Raptus regaliter
|
Quote:
|
|
29th July 2013, 15:10 | #9 | |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
Quote:
|
|
29th July 2013, 15:17 | #10 | |
get to da choppa
|
Quote:
Highly accurate. No really, Mr Shearer thinks so. |
|
29th July 2013, 17:12 | #11 |
Stunt Pants
|
Lol, Chan Ban.
__________________
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
29th July 2013, 17:53 | #12 | |
|
Quote:
__________________
Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong. |
|
29th July 2013, 18:09 | #13 | |
|
Quote:
|
|
29th July 2013, 18:49 | #14 | ||
Stunt Pants
|
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
||
29th July 2013, 19:45 | #15 |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
Oh fuck that's just hilarifailious.
Hey remember when there was all that outcry over the GCSB monitoring our emails and phonecalls? No, me neither. Nice work Labour comms geniouses. Regular as clockwork, just as National starts looking shaky on something Labour starts rolling around naked smearing faeces on itself and makes you forget all about it. |
29th July 2013, 22:18 | #16 |
|
Maybe... maybe some CIA mofo is dosing their water or gassing their offices or something? Surely...
__________________
Stay shook. No sook. |
29th July 2013, 23:05 | #17 |
Anas Latrina
|
|
30th July 2013, 08:52 | #18 | |
Love, Actuary
|
Quote:
|
|
30th July 2013, 09:01 | #19 | |
Love, Actuary
|
Quote:
Buy a house for $500k. Sell it for $1000k pay tax of $150k means starting shopping with a mortgage of $150k to stand still. This will deflate prices. If family homes are exempt a CGT will do nothing in NZ since few people make gains from any other type of "investment". |
|
30th July 2013, 13:41 | #20 | |
Mmm... Sacrilicious
|
Quote:
When we sell it at the current market price we will have to buy another house at the current market price. "Investors" that are buying residential properties to make a profit should be taxed accordingly to discourage such activities in accordance with our "Kiwi ideals". If it doesn't have much effect - fine, at least we gain some tax dollars and can perhaps stop selling off our assets etc. It has to be better than not having a CGT. |
|
30th July 2013, 13:51 | #21 |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
See "tax on telecommuters".
|
30th July 2013, 19:10 | #22 | |
|
Quote:
__________________
Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong. Last edited by fixed_truth : 30th July 2013 at 19:11. |
|
30th July 2013, 20:08 | #23 |
Stunt Pants
|
I don't think anybody but the deluded think that building 100,000 in 10 years will help, or is even possible.
__________________
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
30th July 2013, 20:30 | #24 | |
Love, Actuary
|
Quote:
The issue is that one day your asset will be converted back to cash and then spent even if that doesn't happen until your estate is settled and there will be a massive tax free gain in there. |
|
30th July 2013, 20:34 | #25 | |
Love, Actuary
|
Quote:
|
|
30th July 2013, 21:32 | #26 | |
|
Quote:
__________________
Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong. Last edited by fixed_truth : 30th July 2013 at 21:34. |
|
31st July 2013, 09:31 | #27 | |
|
Quote:
?? I dunno :| Last edited by pxpx : 31st July 2013 at 09:32. |
|
31st July 2013, 14:02 | #28 | |
Mmm... Sacrilicious
|
Quote:
|
|
31st July 2013, 16:06 | #29 |
Stunt Pants
|
Great comeback Spoon1, you really tore apart his argument there.
__________________
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
31st July 2013, 17:13 | #30 | |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
Quote:
|
|
31st July 2013, 17:22 | #31 | |
Objection!
|
Quote:
His argument is perfectly consistent and, IMO, completely correct. I don't believe anyone should get free capital gains, whether you choose to live in a house or not.* When you realise your gains, if we as a society believe that the source of someone's wealth should not be a determinant factor on whether a person gets taxed or not (i.e. tax on income but no tax on capital gains), there is no principled reason why owner occupied homes should be exempt. Oh and LOL @ Fixed_Imbecile -- have you heard of dividends? * Of course, if you are arguing that "I gotta buy a similar house at today's purchase price", you must realise that in your world people can just trade down and pocket capital gains tax-free. |
|
31st July 2013, 18:41 | #32 | |
|
Quote:
And cyc, I'm not interested in being drawn into one of your usual childish shit-flinging fights. If (like most, if not all here) you want join the discussion without the pathetic key board warrior shit; then I'll bother.
__________________
Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong. |
|
31st July 2013, 19:18 | #33 |
Stunt Pants
|
Oh wow, there's even a link to Key Board Warrior!
__________________
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
31st July 2013, 19:25 | #34 |
Mmm... Sacrilicious
|
The comparison is ridiculous and not worth any more than a LOL.
|
31st July 2013, 20:03 | #35 | |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
Quote:
You don't ever need to sell the assets to get a return. They just need to keep going up in value. Welcome to the bubble. Of course this fun game of musical chairs is massively weighted towards those people who already have assets (shares or houses) before the music starts. So if you're a baby boomer who bought his first house in the Tauranga burbs for $10,000 in 1970, you're fucking laughing. If you're a 25-year-old Uni graduate in Auckland with a $100,000 student debt then there's no way you're getting in the game. Forget it. And it's all the fucking Asians' fault. |
|
31st July 2013, 20:10 | #36 | |
Love, Actuary
|
Quote:
|
|
31st July 2013, 21:38 | #37 | |
Objection!
|
Quote:
Great idea..... if you are one of the lucky ones. |
|
31st July 2013, 21:51 | #38 | |
|
Quote:
__________________
Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong. |
|
31st July 2013, 22:16 | #39 | |
Stunt Pants
|
Quote:
__________________
I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
|
4th December 2013, 08:18 | #40 | |
A mariachi ogre snorkel
|
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11166485
Quote:
|
|