Labour leadership contest - Page 2

TD · 5th December 2011, 00:32

Cunliffe doesn't talk, he orates.

Furry Crew · 5th December 2011, 01:09

Either way, unless National truely drop the ball this next 3 years (I give it.even odds) Labour will still be screwed next election.

Ab · 5th December 2011, 20:09

Is Cunliffe seriously talking renationalisation of former State assets that have been sold to private buyers?

Did he just - and pardon me while I seek the most appropriate phrase from the lexicon of realpolitik - fucking go there?

madmaxii · 5th December 2011, 20:17

Yes, yes he did.

Ab · 5th December 2011, 20:57

Well, I'm sure that little policy will do wonders for NZ business's attractiveness to overseas investors.

Ab · 5th December 2011, 21:06

Abort! Retry! Fail!

Quote:

Labour leadership hopeful David Cunliffe says his comments regarding state assets sales were misinterpreted and he wouldn't necessarily buy back any assets sold under the National Government.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10771069

pxpx · 6th December 2011, 09:25

Labour need to reroll their leadership candidates; these two aren't any good.

Rince · 6th December 2011, 09:39

format c: and reinstall, it's the only way to be sure

Furry Crew · 13th December 2011, 12:43

and Shearer wins...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...r-Party-leader

fixed_truth · 13th December 2011, 12:57

Not my pick but Shearer's still a great choice and his genuine good guy charm seems to be appealing to voters.

I look forward to seeing him successfully develop in the new role and by 2014 he'll make an excellent Prime Minister

edit: also I hope they still utilise Cunliffe as he easily runs rings around English et al.

[WanG] Wandarah · 13th December 2011, 13:23

Always seemed like a bit of a gumby cunt to me.

Saladin · 13th December 2011, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

edit: also I hope they still utilise Cunliffe as he easily runs rings around English et al.

They picked Darien 'boycott the mad butcher' Fenton as party whip - it's not fulling me with confidence in the rest of their choices.

Ab · 13th December 2011, 14:06

I fear that Shearer has nobbled himself by NOT saying "I'm a fresh face here to get rid of the old troughers from the Clark era" and instead has gone to those troughers for support. When the new guy comes out and says "I have the support of Phil Goff, Annette King, and Trevor Mallard" that doesn't fill me with feelings of rejuvenation.

Ironically the guy who said "I'm here to get rid of the old troughers" was CUNLIFFE. Former cabinet minister under Clark.

I had hoped that this would be a contest between old and new but instead it has been a contest of Team Old A and Team Old B.

doppelgänger of someone · 13th December 2011, 14:29

I thought Shearer is too green (as in too inexperienced). Ok maybe in 3 years time he will be ready. We'll see.

While Cunliffe has the policy knowledge, he also has the charisma of a wet bag of poo.

A Corpse · 13th December 2011, 14:31

Hopefully when they fail miserably in another election or three they may realise that the old guard are boatanchors weighing them down.

That or said old guard may die of old age.

Cyberbob · 13th December 2011, 15:01

Nanaia Mahuta loses leadership challenge - power fault at Huntley causes outages across North Island...

fixed_truth · 15th December 2011, 10:31

hmmmm

https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?d....2014.NATIONAL

pxpx · 15th December 2011, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

by 2014 he'll make an excellent Prime Minister

Will we have flying cars by then? Hoverboards too? Tell us, oh wise and all knowing prophet!

He seems like a bit of a GC. But noone knows whether he's got what it takes to win an election.

fixed_truth · 15th December 2011, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by pxpx

He seems like a bit of a GC. But noone knows whether he's got what it takes to win an election.

Of course. Hence the emoticon showing a tongue protruding from one's face.

pxpx · 15th December 2011, 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Of course. Hence the emoticon showing a tongue protruding from one's face.

Ah; thought it was a std smiley (didn't notice the animation). Move along, nothing to see here.

[BT]MikeMan · 19th December 2011, 17:08

I am so impressed with the new Labour front bench.

Yeah Right!!!

Ab · 19th December 2011, 18:02

Can someone tell me what Jacinda Ardern has ever done, ever?

cyc · 19th December 2011, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Can someone tell me what Jacinda Ardern has ever done, ever?

She has a vagina, she's young, and looks comparably fresh.

chubby · 19th December 2011, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Can someone tell me what Jacinda Ardern has ever done, ever?

more than paula bennet.

ZoSo · 19th December 2011, 19:19

International Union of Socialist Youth. Lol.

[BT]MikeMan · 19th December 2011, 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by chubby

more than paula bennet.

and the jokes just keep on coming.

fixed_truth · 19th December 2011, 19:31

imo Damien O’Connor should have been there.

Good to see the dead wood pretty much gone as ottomh out of the few still in from the Clark era only Mahuta was prominent back then.

Overall quite fresh which is what they needed.

Ab · 19th December 2011, 20:27

By the looks of it the new Labour shadow front bench is made up of Helen Clark's former staff. It's just the usual Labour gravy train of student rep to student unionist to parliamentary staffer to List MP.

cyc · 19th December 2011, 21:28

I am surprised that Kate Sutton didn't get on the list at all. She is, after all, the protytpical Labour MP. There's definitely one person more useless than Jacinda Ardern -- good grief when I was in uni Sutton was getting her student union career started and even then the stupidity was there for all to see.

At least the ex-CTU shit Andrew Little didn't get much.

Ab · 19th December 2011, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyc

She has a vagina, she's young, and looks comparably fresh.

Bennett, Parata, and Collins are going to be picking their teeth with her bones.

spigalau · 20th December 2011, 07:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyc

At least the ex-CTU shit Andrew Little didn't get much.

EMPU dude, EMPU - you have him mixed with the CTU lass (Helen Kelly) that got tossed like trash from Fiji last week.

And yes, don't like him either.

cyc · 20th December 2011, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by spigalau

EMPU dude, EMPU - you have him mixed with the CTU lass (Helen Kelly) that got tossed like trash from Fiji last week.

And yes, don't like him either.

Yes, you're right

One wonders when Helen Kelly will become a list MP. The prospect of that fills me with joy.

Macca@Work · 21st December 2011, 14:01

Normally politics bore(s) the crap out of me but this post has managed to hold my interest with intelligent comments and useful insights from most people.
It's outside the normal standard of most discussions.What went right?
(And no CCS..don't say it's because I haven't posted with my thoughts and insights.)

CCS · 21st December 2011, 14:25

What went right? Well, National won.

adonis · 21st December 2011, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca@Work

What went right?

Nothing went right. You have very low standards.

Tell me AB, cyc and all you other tories, do you think unions and the people that organise them have a place in our society?

Golden Teapot · 21st December 2011, 20:45

National won. But labour still got about twice as many votes as it deserved. I think due to people having the habit of voting for them despite labour's descent into utter madness. Really green should have got more votes. Perhaps if they were more sensible they could become the number two party?

Macca@Work · 22nd December 2011, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

Nothing went right. You have very low standards.

Tell me AB, cyc and all you other tories, do you think unions and the people that organise them have a place in our society?

Ok. Thanks for the insight comrade.

Ab · 22nd December 2011, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

Nothing went right. You have very low standards.

Tell me AB, cyc and all you other tories, do you think unions and the people that organise them have a place in our society?

Hey I think the whole notion of a hereditary ruler is fucked in the first place, let alone placing some sort of "what invisible fairy do you believe in" requirement on top of it.

verve_rat · 22nd December 2011, 19:20

18th century? Really? I would have gone with Greek debt, he might get that one.

adonis · 22nd December 2011, 22:06

Are you going to answer the question?

6th December 2011, 09:39	#48
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	format c: and reinstall, it's the only way to be sure __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

13th December 2011, 14:31	#55
A Corpse talkative lurker	Hopefully when they fail miserably in another election or three they may realise that the old guard are boatanchors weighing them down. That or said old guard may die of old age. __________________ Broke my addiction! Bye bye Eve, hello Minecraft. Wait... >_<

19th December 2011, 21:28	#69
cyc Objection!	I am surprised that Kate Sutton didn't get on the list at all. She is, after all, the protytpical Labour MP. There's definitely one person more useless than Jacinda Ardern -- good grief when I was in uni Sutton was getting her student union career started and even then the stupidity was there for all to see. At least the ex-CTU shit Andrew Little didn't get much. Last edited by cyc : 19th December 2011 at 21:32.

21st December 2011, 14:25	#74
CCS Stunt Pants	What went right? Well, National won. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

5th December 2011, 00:32	#41
TD Anas Latrina	Cunliffe doesn't talk, he orates.

5th December 2011, 01:09	#42
Furry Crew	Either way, unless National truely drop the ball this next 3 years (I give it.even odds) Labour will still be screwed next election. __________________ "This ain't pain I'm feeling....it's nostalgia" Visit The O-bots

5th December 2011, 20:09	#43
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Is Cunliffe seriously talking renationalisation of former State assets that have been sold to private buyers? Did he just - and pardon me while I seek the most appropriate phrase from the lexicon of realpolitik - fucking go there?

5th December 2011, 20:17	#44
madmaxii	Yes, yes he did. __________________ Carpe Diem

5th December 2011, 20:57	#45
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Well, I'm sure that little policy will do wonders for NZ business's attractiveness to overseas investors.

6th December 2011, 09:25	#47
pxpx	Labour need to reroll their leadership candidates; these two aren't any good.

13th December 2011, 12:43	#49
Furry Crew	and Shearer wins... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...r-Party-leader __________________ "This ain't pain I'm feeling....it's nostalgia" Visit The O-bots

13th December 2011, 12:57	#50
fixed_truth	Not my pick but Shearer's still a great choice and his genuine good guy charm seems to be appealing to voters. I look forward to seeing him successfully develop in the new role and by 2014 he'll make an excellent Prime Minister edit: also I hope they still utilise Cunliffe as he easily runs rings around English et al. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong. Last edited by fixed_truth : 13th December 2011 at 13:00.

13th December 2011, 13:23	#51
[WanG] Wandarah	Always seemed like a bit of a gumby cunt to me.

13th December 2011, 14:06	#53
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	I fear that Shearer has nobbled himself by NOT saying "I'm a fresh face here to get rid of the old troughers from the Clark era" and instead has gone to those troughers for support. When the new guy comes out and says "I have the support of Phil Goff, Annette King, and Trevor Mallard" that doesn't fill me with feelings of rejuvenation. Ironically the guy who said "I'm here to get rid of the old troughers" was CUNLIFFE. Former cabinet minister under Clark. I had hoped that this would be a contest between old and new but instead it has been a contest of Team Old A and Team Old B.

13th December 2011, 14:29	#54
doppelgänger of someone	I thought Shearer is too green (as in too inexperienced). Ok maybe in 3 years time he will be ready. We'll see. While Cunliffe has the policy knowledge, he also has the charisma of a wet bag of poo.

13th December 2011, 15:01	#56
Cyberbob	Nanaia Mahuta loses leadership challenge - power fault at Huntley causes outages across North Island... __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

15th December 2011, 10:31	#57
fixed_truth	hmmmm https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?d....2014.NATIONAL __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

19th December 2011, 17:08	#61
[BT]MikeMan	I am so impressed with the new Labour front bench. Yeah Right!!!

19th December 2011, 18:02	#62
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Can someone tell me what Jacinda Ardern has ever done, ever?

19th December 2011, 19:19	#65
ZoSo	International Union of Socialist Youth. Lol.

19th December 2011, 19:31	#67
fixed_truth	imo Damien O’Connor should have been there. Good to see the dead wood pretty much gone as ottomh out of the few still in from the Clark era only Mahuta was prominent back then. Overall quite fresh which is what they needed. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

19th December 2011, 20:27	#68
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	By the looks of it the new Labour shadow front bench is made up of Helen Clark's former staff. It's just the usual Labour gravy train of student rep to student unionist to parliamentary staffer to List MP.

21st December 2011, 14:01	#73
Macca@Work	Normally politics bore(s) the crap out of me but this post has managed to hold my interest with intelligent comments and useful insights from most people. It's outside the normal standard of most discussions.What went right? (And no CCS..don't say it's because I haven't posted with my thoughts and insights.)

21st December 2011, 20:45	#76
Golden Teapot Love, Actuary	National won. But labour still got about twice as many votes as it deserved. I think due to people having the habit of voting for them despite labour's descent into utter madness. Really green should have got more votes. Perhaps if they were more sensible they could become the number two party?

22nd December 2011, 19:20	#79
verve_rat	18th century? Really? I would have gone with Greek debt, he might get that one. __________________ Fuck you... I've been to the Moon!

22nd December 2011, 22:06	#80
adonis	Are you going to answer the question?