USA Presidential Election 2016 Hype Train - Page 7

The Edge · 19th March 2016, 14:22

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Originally Posted by crocos

Have to say though, Trump > ... > Ted Cruz.

How?

Ab · 19th March 2016, 18:59

Ted Cruz believes he's taking personal instructions from God, i.e. is insane.

The Edge · 19th March 2016, 20:26

Good point. But that's only one point - Trump is bad on so many other levels. Pity Marco Rubio dropped out, I thought he was the most sane out of the three of them. Kasich hasn't really got a hope.

pxpx · 20th March 2016, 16:16

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Originally Posted by The Edge

Good point. But that's only one point - Trump is bad on so many other levels. Pity Marco Rubio dropped out, I thought he was the most sane out of the three of them. Kasich hasn't really got a hope.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...moderate.html#

Ab · 20th March 2016, 18:34

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Originally Posted by The Edge

Pity Marco Rubio dropped out, I thought he was the most sane out of the three of them.

Hint: when two guys are saying they want to become President in order to do Christ's work, and one guy isn't, THE GUY WHO ISN'T IS THE SANE ONE.

Nothing · 20th March 2016, 18:39

Not necessarily Ab. I mean, the two who are saying they want to do Christ's work don't necessarily believe what they're saying. They might just be saying it because they know that it will appeal to the religious demographic.

Minor quibbles aside though, if you want to see Bernie as the democratic nominee, but you can't vote in the elections because you're not an American, you can still phonebank (call Americans in states with an upcoming primary and encourage them to vote for Bernie) for Bernie for free.

Guide:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForP...efans_you_can/

Ab · 20th March 2016, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Nothing

Not necessarily Ab. I mean, the two who are saying they want to do Christ's work don't necessarily believe what they're saying. They might just be saying it because they know that it will appeal to the religious demographic.

Trump might just be saying his nativist bullshit to appeal to the nativist demographic. Works both ways.

Lightspeed · 20th March 2016, 20:35

If we assume that these people know what they're doing, should it be possible to know in such circumstances, then we might conclude that each are doing what they think will get them into power.

That may well be a generous assumption.

Nothing · 20th March 2016, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Ab

Trump might just be saying his nativist bullshit to appeal to the nativist demographic. Works both ways.

So what you're saying here, then, is that you think that Trump's nativist bullshit makes him just as worthy of being labelled insane as Rubio, Cruz, and Kasich's Christianity craziness?

It seems to me that pointing out that my point works both ways is only really worth doing if you think that Trump's nativist bullshit is on at least a similar level of insanity as the Christian craziness in the first place.

fixed_truth · 23rd March 2016, 08:48

Brussels bombings: Donald Trump calls for border closings, 'a lot more than waterboarding' after attacks
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11610227

Cyberbob · 23rd March 2016, 15:07

Geneva convention's for pussies.

Trump's already said that the way to the terrorists is "through their families".

You know what gets shit done? War crimes.

fixed_truth · 23rd March 2016, 20:58

Pretty much

crocos · 27th March 2016, 19:27

Bernie is a Disney princess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2TVLoxsDA

blynk · 29th March 2016, 13:22

3 wins for Bernie over the weekend
A viral hashtag of #berniemademewhite some are rather hilarious
& hearing hardly anything about Trump.

It was a good weekend

Ab · 29th March 2016, 13:46

Bernie's not racing against Trump, he's racing against Clinton.

blynk · 29th March 2016, 14:07

No he's not (yet), but there were no GOP votes this weekend, so it was pretty quite on the nutjobs front.

CCS · 29th March 2016, 14:11

Sanders is making some gains, Clinton some losses, but overall Clinton is still winning. The gap is shrinking, yes, but I think Clinton is going to take this thing.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ets/democrats/

Ab · 29th March 2016, 14:20

It's not just that Clinton's ahead, it's that she's ahead of where she needs to be and Sanders is behind where he needs to be. Doesn't matter that he's making gains if the required run rate is against him.

CCS · 29th March 2016, 14:50

Yes I think I explained all that just now.

Ab · 29th March 2016, 15:03

Yes but there are always more perspectives than those already considered.

CCS · 29th March 2016, 15:07

Thanks for offering new perspectives. I'll be sure to entertain them

Cyberbob · 30th March 2016, 13:47

Clinton in 2016: "No debates until Sanders starts being nicer."

Clinton in 2008: "you should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere.”

Trump 2016: "lol."

She believes it's her turn, and all this political bullshit is just getting in the way.

Luckily for her, there's some superdelegates that agree with that.

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016...f-state-voters

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A whopping seventy-two percent of Washington Democrats voted for Bernie Sanders in the state's caucus on Saturday. The socialist Senator from Vermont won every single county in the state.

But Governor Jay Inslee, a superdelegate who can cast his own vote for whoever he wants at the national convention in July, isn't budging on his support for Sanders' opponent, Hillary Clinton.

blynk · 30th March 2016, 15:07

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Originally Posted by Ab

It's not just that Clinton's ahead, it's that she's ahead of where she needs to be and Sanders is behind where he needs to be. Doesn't matter that he's making gains if the required run rate is against him.

True, but there was always a thought that it would take Sanders a bit longer to build up steam. He needed to start winning a few for the media to cover him a bit more, and it's possible that that has started.
Based on that link, he's due to win the next 2 comfortably, and if he can win New York (which he is down to do) then that could get him more time.

He just needs to get more support from black americans.

crocos · 30th March 2016, 16:45

Actually? He needs to get some superdelegates on side. That is what's going to sink him.

blynk · 30th March 2016, 17:06

If he starts getting more popular and winning more. He will get them. But yes, that might be the final straw for him

Ab · 30th March 2016, 17:20

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Originally Posted by blynk

If he starts getting more popular and winning more. He will get them.

ahahahahaha

yes and the Easter Bunny might come and sprinkle fairy dust on him and he can fly all the way to the White House, yaaaaay

blynk · 30th March 2016, 17:24

If Clinton and Sanders go into the convention neck and neck (or Sanders slightly ahead), they will have to be very careful picking Clinton.
As is said, the left benefit from a higher voter turnout, and a lot of the Sanders voters could stay home that day.

CCS · 30th March 2016, 18:27

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Originally Posted by blynk

Based on that link, he's due to win the next 2 comfortably

What link is that?

blynk · 31st March 2016, 18:49

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Originally Posted by CCS

Sanders is making some gains, Clinton some losses, but overall Clinton is still winning. The gap is shrinking, yes, but I think Clinton is going to take this thing.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ets/democrats/

Your link

CCS · 31st March 2016, 20:40

There's a lot of stuff at that link. You're going to have to point out to me the part that says Sanders will win the next two primary/caucuses, because I can't see it.

The Edge · 1st April 2016, 09:57

I have a feeling Trump won't win Wisconsin. But I could be wrong.

Cyberbob · 1st April 2016, 12:13

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Originally Posted by CCS

There's a lot of stuff at that link. You're going to have to point out to me the part that says Sanders will win the next two primary/caucuses, because I can't see it.

It's far from a win, but it does seem that the longer this campaign goes, the closer the gap gets.

WI

CA

Lightspeed · 1st April 2016, 12:18

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Originally Posted by The Edge

I have a feeling Trump won't win Wisconsin. But I could be wrong.

Nate Silver could be wrong this election. There are more factors involved than how voters might vote.

fixed_truth · 1st April 2016, 12:20

Trump further isolated himself with that abortion comment.

The Democrat race all depends on whether or not the super delegates with change or not, and if it's close then that will depend in who polls say will do best against trump head up

Cyberbob · 1st April 2016, 12:24

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

The Democrat race all depends on whether or not the super delegates with change or not

Bill Clinton said Thursday he changed his allegiance to Barack Obama during the 2008 election — and suggested he’d do the same for Bernie Sanders should he be the front-runner this time.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2584140

Which is actually very positive, given that he's happy to go in the direction that the people point. It goes against those superdelegates that have stuck with Hilary despite their population voting Sanders.

CCS · 1st April 2016, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Cyberbob

It's far from a win, but it does seem that the longer this campaign goes, the closer the gap gets.

Closing the gap has certainly been the trend, but I don't think the gap can be closed quick enough. Time is running out.

Which is good. Because Sanders is bad for NZ.

crocos · 1st April 2016, 12:49

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Originally Posted by CCS

Which is good. Because Sanders is bad for NZ.

Oh? I'll bite: How?

Cyberbob · 1st April 2016, 12:58

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Originally Posted by CCS

Time is running out.

Just released:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...in-democratic/

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According to our latest polls-plus forecast, Bernie Sanders has a 57% chance of winning the Wisconsin primary.

CCS · 1st April 2016, 13:10

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Originally Posted by crocos

Oh? I'll bite: How?

He's anti free trade. NZ is an export nation.

blynk · 1st April 2016, 13:24

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Originally Posted by CCS

There's a lot of stuff at that link. You're going to have to point out to me the part that says Sanders will win the next two primary/caucuses, because I can't see it.

I cant do images. Half way done the page is a list of all the states and what has happened, and what they expect to happen.

Wisconsin - The are expecting a 48 to 38 win for Sanders
Wyoming 9 to 5 win to Sanders
New York 125 to 122 win to Sanders

29th March 2016, 14:11	#257
CCS Stunt Pants	Sanders is making some gains, Clinton some losses, but overall Clinton is still winning. The gap is shrinking, yes, but I think Clinton is going to take this thing. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ets/democrats/ __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

29th March 2016, 14:50	#259
CCS Stunt Pants	Yes I think I explained all that just now. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

29th March 2016, 15:07	#261
CCS Stunt Pants	Thanks for offering new perspectives. I'll be sure to entertain them __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

31st March 2016, 20:40	#270
CCS Stunt Pants	There's a lot of stuff at that link. You're going to have to point out to me the part that says Sanders will win the next two primary/caucuses, because I can't see it. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

19th March 2016, 18:59	#242
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Ted Cruz believes he's taking personal instructions from God, i.e. is insane.

19th March 2016, 20:26	#243
The Edge	Good point. But that's only one point - Trump is bad on so many other levels. Pity Marco Rubio dropped out, I thought he was the most sane out of the three of them. Kasich hasn't really got a hope.

20th March 2016, 18:39	#246
Nothing	Not necessarily Ab. I mean, the two who are saying they want to do Christ's work don't necessarily believe what they're saying. They might just be saying it because they know that it will appeal to the religious demographic. Minor quibbles aside though, if you want to see Bernie as the democratic nominee, but you can't vote in the elections because you're not an American, you can still phonebank (call Americans in states with an upcoming primary and encourage them to vote for Bernie) for Bernie for free. Guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForP...efans_you_can/

20th March 2016, 20:35	#248
Lightspeed	If we assume that these people know what they're doing, should it be possible to know in such circumstances, then we might conclude that each are doing what they think will get them into power. That may well be a generous assumption. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

23rd March 2016, 08:48	#250
fixed_truth	Brussels bombings: Donald Trump calls for border closings, 'a lot more than waterboarding' after attacks http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11610227 __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

23rd March 2016, 15:07	#251
Cyberbob	Geneva convention's for pussies. Trump's already said that the way to the terrorists is "through their families". You know what gets shit done? War crimes. __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

23rd March 2016, 20:58	#252
fixed_truth	Pretty much __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

27th March 2016, 19:27	#253
crocos	Bernie is a Disney princess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc2TVLoxsDA __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

29th March 2016, 13:22	#254
blynk	3 wins for Bernie over the weekend A viral hashtag of #berniemademewhite some are rather hilarious & hearing hardly anything about Trump. It was a good weekend

29th March 2016, 13:46	#255
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Bernie's not racing against Trump, he's racing against Clinton.

29th March 2016, 14:07	#256
blynk	No he's not (yet), but there were no GOP votes this weekend, so it was pretty quite on the nutjobs front.

29th March 2016, 14:20	#258
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	It's not just that Clinton's ahead, it's that she's ahead of where she needs to be and Sanders is behind where he needs to be. Doesn't matter that he's making gains if the required run rate is against him.

29th March 2016, 15:03	#260
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Yes but there are always more perspectives than those already considered.

30th March 2016, 16:45	#264
crocos	Actually? He needs to get some superdelegates on side. That is what's going to sink him. __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

30th March 2016, 17:06	#265
blynk	If he starts getting more popular and winning more. He will get them. But yes, that might be the final straw for him

30th March 2016, 17:24	#267
blynk	If Clinton and Sanders go into the convention neck and neck (or Sanders slightly ahead), they will have to be very careful picking Clinton. As is said, the left benefit from a higher voter turnout, and a lot of the Sanders voters could stay home that day.

1st April 2016, 09:57	#271
The Edge	I have a feeling Trump won't win Wisconsin. But I could be wrong.

1st April 2016, 12:20	#274
fixed_truth	Trump further isolated himself with that abortion comment. The Democrat race all depends on whether or not the super delegates with change or not, and if it's close then that will depend in who polls say will do best against trump head up __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.