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17th January 2022, 13:43 | #2361 | |
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17th January 2022, 14:21 | #2362 |
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Weird how there's talk about children and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and then you mention that, fixed_truth. Sicko
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17th January 2022, 15:27 | #2365 | |
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I realize that the unvax population are faring worse, and I'm not attempting to claim otherwise, but it's an exaggeration, and mathematically wrong, to conclude that only unvax people are ending up in ICU, based on a sample of 6 people in one hospital in one part of the world at one point in time. Even on that same site, the woman in the video states that 20 people died "yesterday" - 14 were vaccinated, 6 were not. Surely if the unvaccinated are the only ones having problems, and the vaccine prevents death like it was supposed to, this would be 20 unvaccinated silly buggers and everyone else lived happily ever after.
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17th January 2022, 15:30 | #2366 | |
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17th January 2022, 15:52 | #2367 | |
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17th January 2022, 16:50 | #2368 |
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Didn't I JUST cover this Mr Titus?
For those at the back of the class: If vaccines didn't work, you'd see a proportional representation on cases and hospitalisations. If they were bad for you, you'd see a very VERY different graph 7% of the population, 64% of the hospitalistions. Are you just ingoring this entirely because it doesn't fit your narrative?
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17th January 2022, 16:59 | #2369 | |
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17th January 2022, 18:37 | #2370 | |
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Ab was implying that "only the unvaccinated are getting sick". I'm making the point that for all this "get vaccinated", "pandemic of the unvaccinated", "vaccination will prevent death", etc, there is still a decent chunk of people dying from COVID, even while vaccinated. It is not as simple as "the vaccine prevents serious illness and death", because it doesn't always work. Even Bob's post shows that somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of NZ hospitalisations are vaccinated people. The simple positive case numbers among the vaccinated are still very high. That, to me, is a significant number of "very rare breakthrough cases" from a vaccine that is "95% effective". It's a bit shit, really, but it's the only thing on the menu, and you have to keep eating it. It's certainly not "100% of people in ICU are unvaccinated", or even close to it. And that's the problem with using a sample size of 6 from a single hospital. To me, the varying effectiveness is still explained by INDIVIDUAL HEALTH CONDITIONS. Which is to say, when you actually check the backgrounds of the people dying "with" COVID, it's the usual suspects. You're not finding children and young healthy adults.
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17th January 2022, 22:49 | #2371 |
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18th January 2022, 05:23 | #2372 | |
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I don't think that cartoon above can say it any plainer. Lockdown helped keep people out of ICU - because they were stuck at home day drinking, and not traversing Auckland going to sex parties (well, mostly) and driving drunk. Do we have any maths on how ICU admissions from serious vehicle crashes plummeted? Or, perhaps the planet does have a magic tree that they can stroke and magic up instant care facilities with highly trained support staff and experienced doctors - perhaps they were just on ice working as tarot card readers and Reiki masters during non-pandemic times? |
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18th January 2022, 07:00 | #2373 | |
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18th January 2022, 08:08 | #2374 |
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I understand, StN. I know the intention. It's just a shame that with these vaccines now in the arms of billions of people, the cases are still at an all time high.
We hoped to have a magic vaccine, but then we realised that magic isn't real, and it's just sleight of hand and misdirection. That's why we still have to wear masks, socially distance, and avoid large indoor gatherings, and continually get boosters. There is nothing in the vaccine itself which actively fights the virus. It's not an anti viral mixture which combats COVID (unlike some treatments which apparently do provide assistance, but we aren't prescribed). It's just a novel way of providing your body with a protein to attack, made from your own cells. Therefore, it's still just people's current immune systems that are being relied on here. That's why it's not stopping transmission, and tripled jabbed are still catching COVID - presumably with "milder" symptoms, although anecdotally, this is hard to assess, since everyone is affected differently by sickness anyway. To say otherwise is basically believing magic is real. Thanks for participating the drug trial, you get a free lump.
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Who could have known!? I don't think you'll find many people that were under the impression that the vaccine is an anti-viral mixture that actively fights covid for us, like a squadron of microscopic fighter pilots.
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18th January 2022, 09:38 | #2376 | |
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18th January 2022, 10:34 | #2377 | |
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18th January 2022, 10:40 | #2378 | |
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18th January 2022, 12:01 | #2380 | |
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Oh I think Gibson is just a sociopath. She lies to get what she wants, end of story. She's one of those individuals who once would have been driven out of the tribe to die in the desert, but now she can just jump from tribe to tribe.
When it comes to young women with uncontrollable body movements LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE there are fucking millions of them. https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/progr...-tics/13618744 The crazy thing about mental contagion is that the almost-always-female sufferers are often genuinely unaware that they're faking it. Some female "get attention, fit in with peer group at all costs" subroutine has kicked in and it's running as root. Quote:
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18th January 2022, 12:27 | #2381 | |
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Zero scientific or medical credibility. Zero proof of the cause. At best it's an incredible (i.e. unprecidented, and not likely) nocebo effect or Factitious disorder (a genuine mental illness), at worst it's a complete scam.
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18th January 2022, 13:15 | #2382 |
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I thought it was going to be a shake-weight ad when it first started.
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18th January 2022, 13:18 | #2383 |
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18th January 2022, 13:24 | #2384 | |
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18th January 2022, 15:02 | #2385 | |
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18th January 2022, 16:38 | #2386 | |
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-shrug- Somehow if you schedule your own infection, your immune system is magically superior.
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18th January 2022, 16:49 | #2387 | |
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People figured this out over 200 years ago. Marvelous thing, this science.
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18th January 2022, 16:50 | #2388 |
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Yeah, let's remind ourselves what stupid people might think so we can feel secure in our decisions.
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18th January 2022, 17:14 | #2389 | |
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Marvellous thing, this science.
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18th January 2022, 17:23 | #2390 |
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It must be hard, only being able to hold the tiniest amount of information in your head concurrently. Everything must be a puzzle or look like magic.
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18th January 2022, 17:41 | #2391 |
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It must be scary if you can't remember 99.9% recovery rate.
I'm dumb because I didn't infect myself with fugaze spike protein several times already, even though the risk is very small that I'll actually suffer from COVID. How many times are you going to do it, seriously? Every 6 months, forever? I mean what the fuck. If it doesn't help your immune system after 2 or 3 times, how is it helping if you get it 4 or 5 times? Marvellous thing, this science.
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18th January 2022, 17:43 | #2392 |
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They don't vaccinate people who had a positive test from COVID within 84 days in the UK, because... getting an active antigen when you have active antibodies produces an inflammatory reaction (which we don't want).
But if you vaccinate and have antibodies and then get the virus? Well, you'll get an inflammatory reaction (which we don't want), but at least you'll have a haircut and a nice meal.
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18th January 2022, 18:04 | #2393 |
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You keep referring back to a specific subset of information. You can't or won't introduce anything outside of this set of information. Which makes sense, given such information undermines the frame you typically hold this information in.
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18th January 2022, 18:20 | #2394 |
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I heard that the milkmaids who had previously acquired cowpox were still able to contract smallpox, this is a fucking scam, DYOR
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18th January 2022, 18:22 | #2395 | |
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18th January 2022, 18:47 | #2396 | |
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18th January 2022, 18:48 | #2397 |
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I mean you do have a point: those vaccinated people aren't sick, they're dead.
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18th January 2022, 18:49 | #2398 | |
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18th January 2022, 19:56 | #2399 |
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So, as I asked you before (and I note you conveniently ignored) - what, in your opinion, should we all do? Just lay down and wait to die?
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