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Old 30th October 2022, 19:37     #3161
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these vaccine surveillance reports were used to show how well the injections worked, so it's fair they also be used to show how poor they are.

a number I would accept from a working vaccine is 0-5% of vaccinated falling sick, in ICU, or dead from the disease they are vaccinated against.

Maybe what you're trying to say is that triple jabbed are more likely to be hypochondriac (have sniffles, must get tested). Otherwise, you'll have to explain how survivorship bias applies here. Cos i'm a big dummie.
The key link you shared wasn't showing how well injections worked. They were showing the vaccination status of those that were hospitalized or died.


Your key points were regarding the percentage of those hospitalised with Covid with at least 3 shots, of those hospitalized and in the ICU with Covid with at least 3 shots, and of those that died with Covid with at least 3 shots.

But from what I can see, you're failing to account for those that have not been hospitalized. You're making the logical error of concentrating on entities that passed a selection process while overlooking those that did not.


It's a loose analogy but you're looking at car crash victims that are in hospital or died, and whether or not they were wearing a seatbelt. You're identifying that out of those that died or are in hospital, a fairly large portion of them were wearing a seatbelt, which is fine. Those are facts.
Then the logical jump you're making is using those above facts as a key talking point as to whether or not seat belts are effective, never mind that there are scores and scores of car crash victims that were wearing seatbelts, that don't need to go to hospital, or don't die as a result of their injuries.
The effectiveness of seatbelts isn't determined by looking at car crash victims that are in hospital or died, and whether or not they were wearing a seatbelt, is it?
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Old 30th October 2022, 21:35     #3162
Nich
 
so the effectiveness of seatbelts is not determined by number that are injured/die, but rather number that are not injured/die (who otherwise would have if not for big seatbelt) Ok, fair point.

My point is primarily for any given month of car accidents, as a proportion of the population of NSW the 53% who wear seatbelts should not represent 78%, 53%, and 75% of the injuries, hospitalisations, and deaths respectively.

But you CAN account for survivorship bias in the NSW data because there's 47% of the NSW population who wear no seatbelt (or 1,2 seatbelts) and they represent less injury, ICU, death compared to 3+ seatbelt cohort.

I think if anything the NSW reports show that 3+ shots just have more car accidents than the rest of us.
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Old 31st October 2022, 19:42     #3163
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https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...7a9914df7a3422

Australia budget for COVID-19 vaccine injury claims only:
2021: $937,000
2022-2024: $77,000,000
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Old 1st November 2022, 16:12     #3164
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https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...619v1.full.pdf
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Our data demonstrate that both monovalent and bivalent mRNA boosters markedly
increased antibody responses but did not substantially augment T cell responses. BA.5 NAb
titers were comparable following monovalent and bivalent mRNA boosters, with a modest and
nonsignificant trend favoring the bivalent booster by a factor of 1.3. These findings are
consistent with data recently reported for a BA.1-containing bivalent mRNA booster.

Our findings suggest that immune imprinting by prior antigenic exposure5 may pose a greater
challenge than currently appreciated
for inducing robust immunity to SARS-CoV-2 variants.
wow. To translate:
-Immune systems respond to injection, but doesn't translate to protection
-Immune systems are over-trained and can't learn new trick offered by bivalent

If only someone had warned us in advance!
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Old 2nd November 2022, 21:55     #3165
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Laugh

Pandemic Amnesty

That's you guys he's talking about. Thanks cunts.
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Old 2nd November 2022, 22:09     #3166
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Rolling eyes

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Old 3rd November 2022, 07:11     #3167
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It's become like flat-earthers. I can't tell if they're being serious or not.
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Old 3rd November 2022, 08:44     #3168
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It's become like flat-earthers. I can't tell if they're being serious or not.
Flat earth has actually left me feeling rather saddened. Whether the ring leaders actually believe, or if they are just posting for the $$ views, the fact that they are able to convince people to follow them, speaks more to how tragically our society have failed these new converts.
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Old 3rd November 2022, 10:19     #3169
Nich
 
That's right, equate fact-based skepticism with the most baseless of conspiracy theories.

We were persuaded / coerced to poison/hurt ourselves for 2 years. Lockdowns (mental health, children's development), masks (facial, respiratory candida), vaccines (negative benefit, all risk), social division ("I hope you go to hospital", "oh yeah, I hope YOU go to hospital!"). You can believe we were all in the dark, if fooling yourself makes you feel better.

No amnesty, no forgiveness until there is acknowledgement, resignations, dissolutions, liquidations, reparations, apologies, jail time.

Daily sceptic has a good article on this Emily Oster.
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/11/02/...ore-generally/

Head girl syndrome indeed. Pro conformist, pro social, top grades in whatever the school wants to grade people on. Smothering the life force of the misfits.
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Old 3rd November 2022, 12:36     #3170
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That's right, equate fact-based skepticism with the most baseless of conspiracy theories.
Did you even watch the video Titus posted?
If so, you have no business getting uppity about bad faith generalisations.

Also, the fact that you can't see how flat earth equates is funny.

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Old 3rd November 2022, 12:45     #3171
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Yeah, the ginga comparing the last 2 years to lord of the flies.

I can't see how flat earth fits. Explain it to me. Or laugh at me for being a big dum dum.
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Old 3rd November 2022, 12:52     #3172
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Maybe funny was the wrong word. Ironic perhaps.
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Old 3rd November 2022, 12:55     #3173
Nich
 
The natives are restless. These pro conformist types can either drop any aspirations to memory-hole their behaviour during COVID-19 calling the riff-raff crazy in the meantime, or they will be boiled alive and eaten.
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Old 10th November 2022, 13:38     #3174
Nich
 
UK Parliament vaccine debate
https://youtu.be/GYFYq0xEAjQ

Nature is healing. No amnesty, no forgiveness.
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Old 12th November 2022, 09:50     #3175
_indigo1
 
So what are your thoughts on this one then Nich, Titus ?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03676-7
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Old 12th November 2022, 12:42     #3176
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Not sure

I'm sure it would have been worse without CRISPR
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Old 12th November 2022, 20:08     #3177
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So what are your thoughts on this one then Nich, Titus ?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03676-7
*American Psycho meme*
Very nice, very nice.

Now let’s see how the trial defines “success”
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Old 21st November 2022, 22:10     #3179
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Problem is ppl are so jaded by the money grab from big pharma already....
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Old 22nd November 2022, 10:54     #3180
_indigo1
 
Yeah that was why I posted it.
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Old 29th November 2022, 12:16     #3181
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A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
wtf is going on in China?
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Old 29th November 2022, 15:30     #3182
Lightspeed
 
Lightbulb

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Old 29th November 2022, 21:37     #3183
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Probably unrelated....

https://v.redd.it/9jb09a43wr2a1
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Old 29th November 2022, 22:56     #3184
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A mariachi ogre snorkel
 
Probably

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...nas_guangzhou/
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Old Yesterday, 07:02     #3185
Cyberbob
 
Wow, it's crazy that all the Uyghurs caught Covid.
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Old Yesterday, 18:26     #3186
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Originally Posted by Lightspeed
"FIGHT the Empire!"
9/10 lipreaders agree, the mouse pulled an edit...
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Old Yesterday, 18:32     #3187
Lightspeed
 
You're in the wrong thread bruv, but I for one support the edit. It would be a step out of universe.
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