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Old 16th November 2022, 22:54     #7801
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Radioactive Andor E11

"Let's call it... war."
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Old 16th November 2022, 23:39     #7802
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​I love how there's this storm swarming around Andor and he's oblivious. He keeps on thinking he's escaped, but he still hasn't realised he's entirely engulfed and will never escape.
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Old 19th November 2022, 16:37     #7803
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One thing I've never really liked is how the Force doesn't really seem to play much of a role in the absence of obvious Force users.

But I think there is a real Force moment where Melshi exclaims "We're getting out here! I know, I feel it!". The way the music shifts just as he takes action is what convinces me.
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Old 19th November 2022, 19:55     #7804
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Old 20th November 2022, 16:24     #7805
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"Let's call it... war."
That string arrangement over the closing credits, heartwrenching.

I just realised while sitting here typing this that it's based on Gm - Em7b5, which is the Rogue One Vader chord change. Intentional or not, that's awesome.
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Old 20th November 2022, 17:40     #7806
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On the topic, the score is amazing imo. Mando's theme by Ludwig Göransson is iconic now, but Boba's and Kenobi’s score was pretty forgettable, and my pick of the bunch is absolutely Nicholas Britell's work on Andor.
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Old 20th November 2022, 18:20     #7807
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Yeah, I haven't been skipping the end credits.
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Old 21st November 2022, 14:37     #7808
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I thought Devs was pretty cool. Sci-fi thriller mini-series with Nick Offerman and Alison Pill.
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Old 23rd November 2022, 21:35     #7809
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Andor s01e12

Wow.

The tension in that supply room between the two weirdos was getting... strangely sexual.

The gambling conversation was an excellent alibi for money problems and deflected from her, while still keeping up appearances and sacrificing her daughter.

Post credit scene went full James Webb and tied it all together nicely!
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Old 23rd November 2022, 23:46     #7810
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"Fight the Empire!"
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Old 24th November 2022, 07:48     #7811
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The Syril and Mosk hat swap in the silent scene. Such good acting throughout the entire series.
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Old 24th November 2022, 08:31     #7812
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It's been an amazing war drama that just so happens to be set in the Star Wars universe.
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Old 24th November 2022, 14:24     #7813
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The Syril and Mosk hat swap in the silent scene. Such good acting throughout the entire series.
From the interviews I've seen, Tony Gilroy chose the actors he wanted, got them to come in and pitched the show to them. All the while the actors were expecting to be auditioning, rather than being offered their part upfront.
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Old 24th November 2022, 16:46     #7814
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Andor E12

Dedra looked very Sith in her hooded civilian digs. The music in that scene helped too, those deep piano notes.

She's gotta be buggered tho right? She's been vulnerable, can't be doing that in a Sith enterprise. I think Syril and her go down together.

My favourite part of the episode was how both the Imps and Luthen's team were all making their plans indifferent to Ferrix, figuring they were a known factor. Then Ferrix just got on with doing what they do, indifferent to outside forces. Maarva's speech climaxed perfectly.

I don't think Luthen is Jedi despite what's been teased. I like the idea he might be ex-Republic intelligence. Maybe Saw causes his death, which is what Mon Mothma is referring to in Rogue One.
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Old 25th November 2022, 17:07     #7815
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Local Drama Rūrangi Wins An International Emmy
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Old 26th November 2022, 06:33     #7816
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Old 28th November 2022, 11:18     #7817
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Andor S01 is almost enough to make me a Star Wars fan again. It was just so good, and so unexpected. Why on earth would a spinoff tv series about a supporting character in a spinoff movie be any good?

It was so... British. Cloudy days in dreary locations. All the interior sets felt like Pinewood circa 1978. Barely an American accent to be heard, anywhere. It felt like Star Wars.
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Old 28th November 2022, 15:54     #7818
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Why on earth would a spinoff tv series about a supporting character in a spinoff movie be any good?
One reason I think is because they're characters no one cares about, so they're not written trying to meet the expectations of fans.

Compare Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi with The Mandalorian and Andor.
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Old 28th November 2022, 20:18     #7819
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Andor S01 is almost enough to make me a Star Wars fan again. It was just so good, and so unexpected. Why on earth would a spinoff tv series about a supporting character in a spinoff movie be any good?

It was so... British. Cloudy days in dreary locations. All the interior sets felt like Pinewood circa 1978. Barely an American accent to be heard, anywhere. It felt like Star Wars.
Echo this 100%....One of my fave characters is Dedra Meero. Love the Imperial efficiency! I'd hire her if I was running a oppressive state!
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Old Yesterday, 15:56     #7820
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One reason I think is because they're characters no one cares about, so they're not written trying to meet the expectations of fans.

Compare Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi with The Mandalorian and Andor.
Andor was an incredible war drama. Throw the entire thing into any wartime scenario, and it would transpose almost apples for apples. Take a WWII era French resistance freedom fighter plot, throw in a POW turned death camp arc, and almost all the notes still hit.
It respected the intelligence of the viewer, didn't hold back, and struck gold.

Mando, especially season 1, was a great Western/Samuari Lone Wolf & The Cub series. Sprinkle in notes of a heist and a horror, and other than falling a little into the 'Villain of the Week' trope, it checks out. It was Robert Rodriguez. I was supposed to get Desperado, but I got Spy Kids.

Boba Fett had good moments. It fleshed out the Tusken more than any media has before, but pacing was all over the place, as was the quality of the episodes. I think my favourite episode of the lot may as well have been seen as The Mandalorian 2.5.

Kenobi I enjoyed, but almost all of that is due to me loving the characters rather than it being a good tv series. I didn't like the fact that they re-used the reluctant father figure trope after doing exactly that in The Mandalorian.
I enjoyed the Kenobi/Leia dynamic, and I enjoyed the Inquisitor manhunter plot, but it tried to be too many things at once, and didn't do either exceptionally well at either. It definitely didn't respect the viewers intelligence IMO, and some of the script was prequel levels of bad. Far too many plot points you could see a mile coming, and relied on spoon feeding rather than inferring.


It's not easy to tell a Star Wars story. Tell a great story that happens to respect the Star Wars universe, and you've got yourself a winner.

With all of that in mind, I'm looking forward to Acolyte, and I'm worried for Ahsoka.
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Old Yesterday, 16:02     #7821
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edit: The Robert Rodriguez comment was supposed to be about Boba Fett, not Mando.
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Old Yesterday, 23:01     #7822
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We really enjoyed 1899. Much more than meets the eye initially.
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Old Today, 20:15     #7823
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We really enjoyed 1899. Much more than meets the eye initially.
Anyone else with a deciding vote?
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