Tri Nations - Page 5

Rince · 8th August 2010, 11:45

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Originally Posted by CCS

That was a good close match. It'll show the ABs what they need to work on. Having weak opponents playing an old style who just get walked over are no good for the ABs.

xor · 8th August 2010, 12:35

A pretty tight game. Aussies could have easily won it imo.

Kurtley Beale looks like the ugliest motherfucker though. He looks like a down syndrome kid with a greasy mo

BoyWonder · 8th August 2010, 13:00

Joe Jackson Jnr if you ask me

CCS · 8th August 2010, 23:48

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Originally Posted by xor

A pretty tight game. Aussies could have easily won it imo.

Kurtley Beale looks like the ugliest motherfucker though. He looks like a down syndrome kid with a greasy mo

He looks like a Fijian-Indian/Pakistani/Australian Aborigine cross to me. So, yeah. Ugly motherfucker. And a decent player too unfortunately :/

mr selfdestruct · 17th August 2010, 12:28

Jeez the Boks have had a horror run of injuries, must be the worse on record! Both Kirchner and Rousow were released for Currie Cup in the Tri Nations bye and both got injured.

Midfield is most likely going to be De Villiers and Olivier and fullback surely has to be Aplon. I'm hoping Hougard gets a run on the right wing, he was a legend in the Super 14, would love to see if he can pull off the same heroics against the All Blacks.

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 03:42

http://www.vipstand.net/watch/3010/1...w-zealand.html

deh · 22nd August 2010, 03:51

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Originally Posted by Warrick

http://www.vipstand.net/watch/3010/1...w-zealand.html

watching this, hoping that theres a nz stream so i dont have to watch this game with these commentators.

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 03:56

haha, GL ;p

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 04:47

lol, ref almost got K to the fucken O'd

deh · 22nd August 2010, 05:47

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Originally Posted by Warrick

lol, ref almost got K to the fucken O'd

haha, that was brutal!

what a game, crowd was amazing.. wish nz would have a crowd the large.

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 05:47

Carter needs a spank. He missed 11points the bugger! pleased with the result, but crikey dick... Carter needs to sort whatever that is out.

Deadmeat · 22nd August 2010, 05:57

Here's hoping safa toilets are built to withstand masonry.

To their credit their defence seemed to have way more hustle this time out and missing that forward pass call pretty much cost them the game through no fault to them. On the other hand... ahahahaha

Good on the players for going straight to the refs aid, that was a ugly hit. So was that back extension one of the safa backs got near the end.

Rince · 22nd August 2010, 11:25

just watched the replay (I'm too old to get up at 3am)

*phew* is the best way to describe it.... SA played sooo much better...

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 11:26

should've been 40-22, if we had Morne Steyn kicking for us.

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 19:41

true, didn't even realise Nonu's boot came off in that line break and he ran up the field without it(obviously!)

roflies

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 22:04

All Blacks: Dan Carter out for two months

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=10668139

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World class All Blacks first five-eighth Dan Carter is to undergo ankle surgery on Tuesday, ruling him out of rugby for up to eight weeks.

BoyWonder · 22nd August 2010, 22:12

Who's backup for Dan these days? Seems like a while since anyone else has been in the hotseat!

Edit - I see Aaron Cruden is mentioned in the article...

Warrick · 22nd August 2010, 22:17

Cruden all the way, he's a tiny wee thing! Will be interesting to see who else gets a chance.

QWERTY? · 23rd August 2010, 06:05

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Originally Posted by Warrick

All Blacks: Dan Carter out for two months

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=10668139

better now than in 12 months time, will give him a nice recovery period into next years super 14 as well.

_Incubus_ · 23rd August 2010, 09:07

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Originally Posted by Warrick

All Blacks: Dan Carter out for two months

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=10668139

Which might explain the reason that DC's kicking game recently hasnt been stellar...

blynk · 23rd August 2010, 09:34

So can the safa be cited for giving the ref the big push that ended with him out of it? Surely you don't touch the ref.

I think the safas learnt the Oz last game. Oz came back strong in the pack. They tackled strong and cleaned out the rucks to stop the turn overs. Thats what made us win the first few games so easily.

The safas started to put pressure on themselves. Like when steyn kicked the ball dead from the penalty. Changed it from pressure on us, and a likely drop goal to them, to us being inside their half.

mr selfdestruct · 23rd August 2010, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Warrick

Cruden all the way, he's a tiny wee thing! Will be interesting to see who else gets a chance.

Delany will be back to contest the back up 10 jersey, mark my words!

Deadmeat · 23rd August 2010, 14:01

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Originally Posted by blynk

So can the safa be cited for giving the ref the big push that ended with him out of it? Surely you don't touch the ref.

I would hope not, while i agree with the idea the ref should be 'untouchable', it was really only circumstance that caused the result from that push. It wouldn't be the first time a ref has been given a suggestion from a player on where he should stand.

Woodcocks try was my favourite moment of the test (besides the end), everyone's screaming for it to go right and find a winger only to find the #1. Cut to front shot of him charging at the line gasping for breath legs going as fast as they can, then he steals a couple of metres infield and does the victory dive, much lols

Heart went out a bit to Smit left holding Nonu's boot, but then i just remember the commentator screaming "HE'S GOT DAGG"

Carter looked really uncomfy getting up after his near try, he had a pretty obvious limp as he moved back. Glad Cruden is likely to get a start out of it though, he must have been screaming to get on for the last game.

Warrick · 23rd August 2010, 14:28

genuine tingle down my spine reading this, couldn't agree more!

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The note of caution must be that so much relies on Richie McCaw's presence. He is, without a shadow of doubt to my mind, the best player rugby has seen - as in the most effective - for a very long time. Perhaps ever.

If it came to picking a world combination of the past 40 years whose sole mission was to win a mythical game, R. McCaw should be the first name on any team sheet. His all-round game is extraordinary to behold.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=10668143

HO-Hoon · 23rd August 2010, 14:50

Game marred by the bad ref decision missing that forward pass. Even though we still got another try afterwards, its hard to claim that the awarding of that Mcaw try didn't affect the outcome of the game. Looked to be a coin toss to me and was surprised the SA TMO didn't swing towards NO TRY due to the missed forward pass.

Yes SA were in a death spiral at the time struggling to hold on - just would've been better if we could claim the victory (and brag about it) without the win being diluted by poor reffing.

Deadmeat · 23rd August 2010, 15:03

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Originally Posted by HO-Hoon

Game marred by the bad ref decision missing that forward pass. Even though we still got another try afterwards, its hard to claim that the awarding of that Mcaw try didn't affect the outcome of the game. Looked to be a coin toss to me and was surprised the SA TMO didn't swing towards NO TRY due to the missed forward pass.

Yes SA were in a death spiral at the time struggling to hold on - just would've been better if we could claim the victory (and brag about it) without the win being diluted by poor reffing.

Or the call that declared a player running into roko's back after a kick a 'late tackle'. There were several poor calls, we just got lucky in that the one that went our way was the one that really counted. I don't think the TMO could have gone back to the forward pass as the ref only questioned the grounding, although i'm not certain on that one.

Just read the boks had 3 players unused on the bench... wtf when all your fatties are out of breath don't you use your subs?

Warrick · 23rd August 2010, 15:09

yeah, i was going to say that, too. I don't think the TMO could've gone back as the ref specifically asked about the grounding.

and that penalty against roko was bs.. and as you said DM, a few bad calls in that game. ultimately if carter's boot was on point we would've been tied up(or leading by 2?) at half time and from there who knows what would've happened. we were clearly the better team, we came close to scoring a lot more than they did. just a shame carter missed 11points.

rah, 3 weeks rest then the final game. bring on the end of year tour!

i wonder if we'll go unbeaten this season.

Ab · 23rd August 2010, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Deadmeat

Just read the boks had 3 players unused on the bench... wtf when all your fatties are out of breath don't you use your subs?

Your coach is a fucking nutter?

Ab · 23rd August 2010, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Warrick

genuine tingle down my spine reading this, couldn't agree more!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=10668143

One word, Chris Rattue. Ignore.

Warrick · 23rd August 2010, 15:27

^^ yeah, usually i dislike his articles

p.s phuck yew! McCaw is the best ever!

mr selfdestruct · 23rd August 2010, 16:07

TMO's can't rule on forward passes AFAIK. Gotta give SOME responsibility to the Assistant Referees.

HO-Hoon · 23rd August 2010, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Warrick

yeah, i was going to say that, too. I don't think the TMO could've gone back as the ref specifically asked about the grounding.

Yeah thats right I recall the TMO coming up with very diplomatic reply but when pushed by the ref (obviously passing the buck) he answered "you may award the try".

It was hard to tell from the video, the angle was perfect but the FPS was lacking. One frame McCaws foot and the ball were in the air, next frame both were grounded so you can't exclude either possibility. Good on the TMO for his integrity but I would've gone nup no try and no one would have complained - I just hate to see a team take the lead with an undeserved try. Guess thats why I'm an armchair ref, not a TMO.

blynk · 23rd August 2010, 19:09

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Originally Posted by HO-Hoon

It was hard to tell from the video, the angle was perfect but the FPS was lacking. One frame McCaws foot and the ball were in the air, next frame both were grounded so you can't exclude either possibility. Good on the TMO for his integrity but I would've gone nup no try and no one would have complained - I just hate to see a team take the lead with an undeserved try. Guess thats why I'm an armchair ref, not a TMO.

Based on the commentators, simultaneous is out, therefore based on that it would be considered out.

Heresy · 24th August 2010, 02:00

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Originally Posted by Ab

One word, Chris Rattue. Ignore.

Gregor Paul is similar. On the flip, Wynne Gray is a legend.

mr selfdestruct · 24th August 2010, 08:53

It's all about how the ref asks the question guys so it didn't matter if his leg went into touch the same time the ball was grounded. If it happened 'almost' simultaneously, as in, if he didn't have quite enough frames to conclusively prove it 'WASNT' a try when the ref asks, 'is there any reason why i cant award this try?' then he gives the benefit of the doubt to the try scorer.

If the ref says, "I think his foot went into touch, can you confirm a try has not been scored" then under this circumstance the ref would say, 'there is not conclusive evidence to prove a try has been scored, no try'.

It's the same deal with the referral system in cricket, if the umpire is on side with the fielding team they get the benefit of the doubt of the decision, the batting side, they get the benefit of the doubt.

In this case the ref was on side with the All Blacks thinking a try had been scored but wanted to confirm if there was any obvious reason that it might not have - there wasn't, so it was a try.

Warrick · 24th August 2010, 11:25

I reckon he got the try. Fuck da hyp3

mr selfdestruct · 30th August 2010, 09:10

Wallabies Boks on Sunday morning was probably the most entertaining match of the entire series, SOOOOOO many tries!

blynk · 30th August 2010, 09:49

So many tries, so little structure.

I really thought Aussie were going to score when they were only down 3/6 points.

They were looking good, but dropped balls etc let them down.

Oh, and their commentators are so funny.

Lord Pidgington · 30th August 2010, 13:54

The new rules have undeniably changed the game for the better. Counterattacking has never been so prevalent and deadly.

Invariably under these new rules Southern Hemisphere at next year's World Cup seems a given. I'd like to say the Northern Hemisphere can adapt, but historically they've proven to be unable to change their playing style.

mr selfdestruct · 31st August 2010, 08:43

I think Quade Cooper cleared the ball once, MAYBE twice, ran it pretty much every time.

17th August 2010, 12:28	#165
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Jeez the Boks have had a horror run of injuries, must be the worse on record! Both Kirchner and Rousow were released for Currie Cup in the Tri Nations bye and both got injured. Midfield is most likely going to be De Villiers and Olivier and fullback surely has to be Aplon. I'm hoping Hougard gets a run on the right wing, he was a legend in the Super 14, would love to see if he can pull off the same heroics against the All Blacks. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

22nd August 2010, 11:25	#173
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	just watched the replay (I'm too old to get up at 3am) phew is the best way to describe it.... SA played sooo much better... __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

23rd August 2010, 16:07	#191
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	TMO's can't rule on forward passes AFAIK. Gotta give SOME responsibility to the Assistant Referees. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

24th August 2010, 08:53	#195
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	It's all about how the ref asks the question guys so it didn't matter if his leg went into touch the same time the ball was grounded. If it happened 'almost' simultaneously, as in, if he didn't have quite enough frames to conclusively prove it 'WASNT' a try when the ref asks, 'is there any reason why i cant award this try?' then he gives the benefit of the doubt to the try scorer. If the ref says, "I think his foot went into touch, can you confirm a try has not been scored" then under this circumstance the ref would say, 'there is not conclusive evidence to prove a try has been scored, no try'. It's the same deal with the referral system in cricket, if the umpire is on side with the fielding team they get the benefit of the doubt of the decision, the batting side, they get the benefit of the doubt. In this case the ref was on side with the All Blacks thinking a try had been scored but wanted to confirm if there was any obvious reason that it might not have - there wasn't, so it was a try. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

30th August 2010, 09:10	#197
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Wallabies Boks on Sunday morning was probably the most entertaining match of the entire series, SOOOOOO many tries! __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

8th August 2010, 12:35	#162
xor	A pretty tight game. Aussies could have easily won it imo. Kurtley Beale looks like the ugliest motherfucker though. He looks like a down syndrome kid with a greasy mo

8th August 2010, 13:00	#163
BoyWonder	Joe Jackson Jnr if you ask me

22nd August 2010, 03:42	#166
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	http://www.vipstand.net/watch/3010/1...w-zealand.html

22nd August 2010, 03:56	#168
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	haha, GL ;p

22nd August 2010, 04:47	#169
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	lol, ref almost got K to the fucken O'd

22nd August 2010, 05:47	#171
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	Carter needs a spank. He missed 11points the bugger! pleased with the result, but crikey dick... Carter needs to sort whatever that is out.

22nd August 2010, 05:57	#172
Deadmeat	Here's hoping safa toilets are built to withstand masonry. To their credit their defence seemed to have way more hustle this time out and missing that forward pass call pretty much cost them the game through no fault to them. On the other hand... ahahahaha Good on the players for going straight to the refs aid, that was a ugly hit. So was that back extension one of the safa backs got near the end.

22nd August 2010, 11:26	#174
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	should've been 40-22, if we had Morne Steyn kicking for us.

22nd August 2010, 19:41	#175
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	true, didn't even realise Nonu's boot came off in that line break and he ran up the field without it(obviously!) roflies

22nd August 2010, 22:12	#177
BoyWonder	Who's backup for Dan these days? Seems like a while since anyone else has been in the hotseat! Edit - I see Aaron Cruden is mentioned in the article... Last edited by BoyWonder : 22nd August 2010 at 22:14.

22nd August 2010, 22:17	#178
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	Cruden all the way, he's a tiny wee thing! Will be interesting to see who else gets a chance.

23rd August 2010, 09:34	#181
blynk	So can the safa be cited for giving the ref the big push that ended with him out of it? Surely you don't touch the ref. I think the safas learnt the Oz last game. Oz came back strong in the pack. They tackled strong and cleaned out the rucks to stop the turn overs. Thats what made us win the first few games so easily. The safas started to put pressure on themselves. Like when steyn kicked the ball dead from the penalty. Changed it from pressure on us, and a likely drop goal to them, to us being inside their half.

23rd August 2010, 14:50	#185
HO-Hoon	Game marred by the bad ref decision missing that forward pass. Even though we still got another try afterwards, its hard to claim that the awarding of that Mcaw try didn't affect the outcome of the game. Looked to be a coin toss to me and was surprised the SA TMO didn't swing towards NO TRY due to the missed forward pass. Yes SA were in a death spiral at the time struggling to hold on - just would've been better if we could claim the victory (and brag about it) without the win being diluted by poor reffing. Last edited by HO-Hoon : 23rd August 2010 at 14:53.

23rd August 2010, 15:09	#187
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	yeah, i was going to say that, too. I don't think the TMO could've gone back as the ref specifically asked about the grounding. and that penalty against roko was bs.. and as you said DM, a few bad calls in that game. ultimately if carter's boot was on point we would've been tied up(or leading by 2?) at half time and from there who knows what would've happened. we were clearly the better team, we came close to scoring a lot more than they did. just a shame carter missed 11points. rah, 3 weeks rest then the final game. bring on the end of year tour! i wonder if we'll go unbeaten this season.

23rd August 2010, 15:27	#190
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	^^ yeah, usually i dislike his articles p.s phuck yew! McCaw is the best ever!

24th August 2010, 11:25	#196
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	I reckon he got the try. Fuck da hyp3

30th August 2010, 09:49	#198
blynk	So many tries, so little structure. I really thought Aussie were going to score when they were only down 3/6 points. They were looking good, but dropped balls etc let them down. Oh, and their commentators are so funny.

30th August 2010, 13:54	#199
Lord Pidgington	The new rules have undeniably changed the game for the better. Counterattacking has never been so prevalent and deadly. Invariably under these new rules Southern Hemisphere at next year's World Cup seems a given. I'd like to say the Northern Hemisphere can adapt, but historically they've proven to be unable to change their playing style.

31st August 2010, 08:43	#200
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	I think Quade Cooper cleared the ball once, MAYBE twice, ran it pretty much every time. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.