Telecom Virtual Rugby '08 - Page 2

Phrack · 23rd March 2008, 12:44

you have to be fucking kidding me. stupid chiefs winning by 16! I had them 1-12 and yes I actually picked the draw between the lions and the reds. almost my first perfect week ever and it would have been amazing. damn those stupid chiefs.

Rince · 24th March 2008, 12:07

missed the draw (I almost picked it.... but at the last second I thought "don't be so fucking stupid Rincey, who the fuck picks a draw, apart from Phrack, the weirdo") & I got the wrong margin for the Blues game.....

37 points

Cereal Killar · 24th March 2008, 12:12

My sister picked the draw. Jumped her up to around 3000. I'm languishing around the 90000+ mark.

Phrack · 24th March 2008, 13:14

i needed that draw to bring me back into the mix. jumped me up 57,000 places too. I can see next week only getting 18, just looks like a week that almost all the games could go either.

mr selfdestruct · 24th March 2008, 13:14

buckies: No luck at the TAB for me this week. 2 $5 multi's didn't come through and got one of my single option bet and lost the other. Crusaders 1-7 HT came through for a profit of $37.50 and put $30 on Bulls +3.5 point start thinking they would win for certain but just in case they lost by 3 I would still get my money back .... stupid Chiefs winning with most of their best players injured!!

My worst week yet in virtual, only JUST holding onto my lead now

Miserable 26 points.

buckies · 25th March 2008, 12:38

My multi died due to the draw of course (I backed Lions H2H) and the Force not putting 13+ on the Highlanders (why can't anyone exploit this team for the gumbies that they are?).

mr selfdestruct · 26th March 2008, 14:23

I actually think the Highlanders are a pretty solid outfit, they just lack gamebreakers and a world class fly half, I imagine they would have won that game with Evans.

Your multi can't break if a H2H doesn't come through, the TAB gives you an amnesty on them, they just deduct the odds from that game from your return (spot the gambler!). So just the Force 13+ stuffed you. I also picked Force 13+, after dicking the Blues you would have thought that would be a good bet but at one stage they looked like they could have lost it if it wasn't for Ryan Cross' intercept try.

mr selfdestruct · 26th March 2008, 14:25

Y'know when you think about it, it should have been a gamblers paradise. Every favourite won. A simple $5 head to head bet on all the favourites would have returned $80 even with the draw.

buckies · 27th March 2008, 10:34

Odds deductions on H2H's prolly would have seen me home earlier on this season. Ballbags.

I'm scared this weekend of Hurr/Cru as is everyone else. Logic dictates that Crusaders win, but if the Hurricanes bring their A game then they can win it. Also, if Brett and MacDonald are still out the Crusaders are weakened, whereas the canes will be fresh after the bye. TAB backs Crusaders 13+ and puts the canes at long odds.

All other games should be elementory wins for the home teams, so it's probably wisest to leave this one off and back the rest.

mr selfdestruct · 27th March 2008, 12:08

MacDonald will be playing.

only 4 players in canes starting line up that have not played for the all blacks and 7 for the crusaders but that won't make much difference.

Crusaders have been slow out of the blocks and error ridden in the first half and monstered everyone with no mistakes in the 2nd.

Hurricanes have started all matches strongly.

I'm thinking good punts will be Hurricanes by 1-7 at half time and a real juicy one, Hurricanes at HT / Crusaders at FT.

Like you said, the rest should be fairly elementary provided there aren't too many brain explosions from the favourites.

Should be several close match ups this weekend though, a 3 option multi of two or three 12- winning margins paying $2.80 each looks attractive.

buckies · 27th March 2008, 16:07

I'm happy to back Chiefs and Blues 13+, more unsure about Force, Sharks and Tahs ability to do the same. Surprised the TAB is so adament of a 13+ outcome on the Tahs.

Canes 1-7 @ HT is a nice bet @ $4.75. HT/FT on Hurr/Cru will cost me a year of my life in stress I imagine.

buckies · 29th March 2008, 12:35

Going for a penalty when trailing by 7 with 10 minutes to go and an opposition player in the bin. STUPID. Then Goppeth misses the kick.

Should have gone for touch and the rolling maul try like they did with Hore before

A defining moment of Hurricanes stupidity.

(and no, i didn't bet on the canes, just a frustrated Wellingtonian)

p-b · 29th March 2008, 13:40

I think Ali Williams looks rather good in Red and Black

Phrack · 29th March 2008, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckies

Going for a penalty when trailing by 7 with 10 minutes to go and an opposition player in the bin. STUPID. Then Goppeth misses the kick.

Should have gone for touch and the rolling maul try like they did with Hore before

A defining moment of Hurricanes stupidity.

(and no, i didn't bet on the canes, just a frustrated Wellingtonian)

They had to score twice to win the game, and a fairly easy kick came up with more than enough time left on the clock and the sin bin to work it back up there. Goppeth shouldn't have missed that.

BWDOWN · 29th March 2008, 17:14

even against a less than 50% accurate crusaders the canes were never in the game. They will have to play a lot better to make the semis

More importantly bar injury's will we see the 1st ever unbeaten run in super 14??

mr selfdestruct · 30th March 2008, 23:28

Crusaders are due to lose some games, no carter for 6 weeks and brett out for just as long. MacDonald only an average kicker IMO.

buckies · 31st March 2008, 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phrack

They had to score twice to win the game, and a fairly easy kick came up with more than enough time left on the clock and the sin bin to work it back up there. Goppeth shouldn't have missed that.

They only had to score one try to salvage a result. A try would have struck them within penalty range if the conversion missed (20-18), or have the scores tied (20-20, which is a result I'm sure the players would have been happy with). If they scored the try and missed the conversion, there would have been a severe amount of pressure on the Crusaders, as any penalty in their own half would then potentially cost them the match.

Even if that penalty went over, the canes would still need a try to win, as another penalty would be insufficient. They'd have less time to do so and be doing it against 15 men thanks to the decision they opted for.

10 minutes on the clock is not a lot of time, and taking the penalty wasted valuable time when the Mose was in the sin bin. A kick to touch and a line out within 10 metres of the goal line would have been very promising given that Carter was off and the Crusaders were down to a 7 man forward pack. The rolling maul try some minutes earlier would have been in the back of the Crusader's minds.

It was one of the stupidest decisions by a captain I've seen. Nevertheless, the canes played badly and didn't deserve to win the match.

If Brett is back the Crusaders can survive. Without Brett AND Carter, they'll be in strife, as they'll probably have to rely on Leon "chargedown" MacDonald. they have a bye and the Lions so I imagine Brett will be back in time for their next major match (the Chiefs @ the Tron)

BWDOWN · 31st March 2008, 14:16

Yea Lions are up to f*ck all esp away, so I can see Brett back by the game at the tron.

mr selfdestruct · 3rd April 2008, 08:58

I'm hoping Carter and Brett will be out for the Chiefs game

You guys are dreaming, the Hurricanes did extremely well to only lose by as many as they did, it was a MIRACLE they scored in the final 20 minutes and prevented the Crusaders from getting any points. I think the last time the Crusaders were prevented from scoring in the last 20 minutes was the 2007 semi-final, just face it, the Canes could not have done any better than they did, they simply aren't good enough.

buckies · 3rd April 2008, 12:35

Hurricanes/Sharks will be a good match and the toughest pick of the round. Reckon Sharks haven't been that impressive while lurking at home all season. Canes 12-.

Force should bounce back at home and put the Bulls down 12-.

Chiefs should beat Brumbies even though they are away. 12- for the away factor.

Blues should beat Tahs away. 12- for the away factor.

Highlanders to beat the Lions? Woeful vs woeful. Perhaps avoid. Hoping Highlanders get a much deserved first win though.

Cheetahs vs reds in SA. Another mug matchup. Go with the home team?

Phrack · 3rd April 2008, 23:20

last time two mugs played i picked a draw and it came through :P

mr selfdestruct · 4th April 2008, 09:08

Yes Phrack, and why don't you tell us about the other two draws you picked earlier on that earned you zero points hmmmmmmmmmm? Punk :P

I need to maintain my lead this week, everyone is far too close so I'm keeping my cards close to my chest, I'm picking a couple of upsets though.

Cheetahs should beat the Reds based purely on the fact their cheerleaders have their own website and some of them are very fit, I expect they'll provide an excellent distraction for the aging Latham.

The real question is, who should I pick in my fantasy team this week? Now that I've dropped Carter I have a spare 2.3 million to spend elsewhere!

buckies · 4th April 2008, 11:31

You're picking the tahs to upset the Blues aren't you.

Sharks/Canes should be even H2H. Weird TAB thinks Canes are favourites, no doubt because it's an NZ bookie.

Surprised that they have the Cheifs as underdogs to.

All in all, this is the best weekend of betting thus far! Every game is paying around the $2.50-$3.00 mark for picking the most possible margin of victory.

Rince · 7th April 2008, 18:14

ffs....
Paul Marks needs to be a big fat hairy dog up him

Phrack · 7th April 2008, 18:47

i've only ever actually picked one draw, and it came off. Funnily enough I clicked random picks to see what would come up, and it picked the canes/sharks draw and almost every other game... should have gone with it.

mr selfdestruct · 8th April 2008, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckies

You're picking the tahs to upset the Blues aren't you.

Sharks/Canes should be even H2H. Weird TAB thinks Canes are favourites, no doubt because it's an NZ bookie.

Surprised that they have the Cheifs as underdogs to.

All in all, this is the best weekend of betting thus far! Every game is paying around the $2.50-$3.00 mark for picking the most possible margin of victory.

I wish I picked the Tahs to upset the Blues dammit!! :P I did pick Brumbies over Chiefs and Sharks over Canes though, didn't really happen for me. Whats your player name buckies?

Phrack: Only ever picked a draw once??? You've picked lots of draws in previous competitions and you also picked Brumbies / Highlanders to be a draw in Week 2 of this competition so don't tell lies! :P

Phrack · 8th April 2008, 18:52

dunno what crack i was smoking that week. didnt even realise i picked a draw for the brumbies... i probably came home drunk and changed my picks :P

mr selfdestruct · 11th April 2008, 09:05

TAB paying a very generous $3.50 for Stormers to be in the Top 4. I put $15 on it today, they have the EASIEST run of games in the remainder of the competition, should do it easy. Come on $50! :P Also, I have Casey Laulala to be top Try Scorer in competition when he was paying $20 for a cool return of $100. He's only paying $7 cos he has 4 tries and he's going to get 3 against the Lions

_Incubus_ · 11th April 2008, 10:58

Tough round this week...Hardest game to call - Force v Tahs

buckies · 11th April 2008, 14:37

Force 12 & under. Haven't played well as of recent but are proven performers in tight matches. Clutch counts for lots.

Sharks 12- or 13+ is a big call. Noone put 13+ on Highlanders yet in House of Pain.

mr selfdestruct · 11th April 2008, 17:00

Force beat the Bulls by 1 point and the Waratahs demolished the Blues. The Tahs will win by a smidgeon. Force suck at Subiaco.

$5 on Sharks 1st scoring play to be a drop goal $150 return - come on baby.

Rince · 13th April 2008, 09:47

ahhh - to be a 'canes supporter

buckies · 13th April 2008, 10:33

Although the main test is next week. Can they do back to back performances and beat an in-form Stormers side? It'll be the game that'll determine their playoff chances.

mr selfdestruct · 14th April 2008, 10:15

Told you the Tahs would win

Some prick has knocked me off the top of the table, whose Dragoon?

buckies · 14th April 2008, 12:22

That last try that gave them the match was a f*ckin fluke. Force are the better team.

Didn't matter as Stormers only won by 12 points when I had them 13+. Unlucky weekend as I stood to get back around $350 on my $20 bar these anomalies.

Ab · 14th April 2008, 13:39

I picked the Tahs over the Force but the Blues let me down.

mr selfdestruct · 14th April 2008, 16:31

I'll say stupid Blues, they let everyone down again

oOo Dragon oOo · 14th April 2008, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

Told you the Tahs would win

Some prick has knocked me off the top of the table, whose Dragoon?

That would be me

Dunno if I'll be up there long tho, given the gap between people is so damn tight

mr selfdestruct · 15th April 2008, 09:48

uh ha! I shall cut you down like wheat!

buckies · 15th April 2008, 11:19

Chiefs vs Crus (at Tron)
Stomers vs Canes (at Newlands)

Chiefs have to win to keep top 4 hopes alive. Have had a good streak of wins now and found their form, and had a week off with a bye. Crusaders have never really had a bad game (bar the one against the Force), but will be lacking Dan Carter and Reuben Thorne (Thorne ain't really a loss though

). TAB has Crusaders as hot favourites. Don't forget last years end of round robin upset in Christchurch though

Stormers vs Canes. Both these teams are vying for Top 4 and it's likely the winner of this encounter will make it. Both teams have hit some good form and have talent across the park. Question is which canes team will show up on the day. TAB odds are close and favouring the Stormers 12-. Picking this game right will be a good payday.

This will be the week to filter out the contenders from the pretenders.

24th March 2008, 12:07	#42
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	missed the draw (I almost picked it.... but at the last second I thought "don't be so fucking stupid Rincey, who the fuck picks a draw, apart from Phrack, the weirdo") & I got the wrong margin for the Blues game..... 37 points __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

24th March 2008, 13:14	#45
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	buckies: No luck at the TAB for me this week. 2 $5 multi's didn't come through and got one of my single option bet and lost the other. Crusaders 1-7 HT came through for a profit of $37.50 and put $30 on Bulls +3.5 point start thinking they would win for certain but just in case they lost by 3 I would still get my money back .... stupid Chiefs winning with most of their best players injured!! My worst week yet in virtual, only JUST holding onto my lead now Miserable 26 points. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

26th March 2008, 14:23	#47
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	I actually think the Highlanders are a pretty solid outfit, they just lack gamebreakers and a world class fly half, I imagine they would have won that game with Evans. Your multi can't break if a H2H doesn't come through, the TAB gives you an amnesty on them, they just deduct the odds from that game from your return (spot the gambler!). So just the Force 13+ stuffed you. I also picked Force 13+, after dicking the Blues you would have thought that would be a good bet but at one stage they looked like they could have lost it if it wasn't for Ryan Cross' intercept try. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

26th March 2008, 14:25	#48
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Y'know when you think about it, it should have been a gamblers paradise. Every favourite won. A simple $5 head to head bet on all the favourites would have returned $80 even with the draw. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

27th March 2008, 12:08	#50
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	MacDonald will be playing. only 4 players in canes starting line up that have not played for the all blacks and 7 for the crusaders but that won't make much difference. Crusaders have been slow out of the blocks and error ridden in the first half and monstered everyone with no mistakes in the 2nd. Hurricanes have started all matches strongly. I'm thinking good punts will be Hurricanes by 1-7 at half time and a real juicy one, Hurricanes at HT / Crusaders at FT. Like you said, the rest should be fairly elementary provided there aren't too many brain explosions from the favourites. Should be several close match ups this weekend though, a 3 option multi of two or three 12- winning margins paying $2.80 each looks attractive. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

23rd March 2008, 12:44	#41
Phrack	you have to be fucking kidding me. stupid chiefs winning by 16! I had them 1-12 and yes I actually picked the draw between the lions and the reds. almost my first perfect week ever and it would have been amazing. damn those stupid chiefs. __________________ .......

24th March 2008, 12:12	#43
Cereal Killar	My sister picked the draw. Jumped her up to around 3000. I'm languishing around the 90000+ mark.

25th March 2008, 12:38	#46
buckies	This week wasn't too bad My multi died due to the draw of course (I backed Lions H2H) and the Force not putting 13+ on the Highlanders (why can't anyone exploit this team for the gumbies that they are?).

27th March 2008, 10:34	#49
buckies	ah numbnuts Odds deductions on H2H's prolly would have seen me home earlier on this season. Ballbags. I'm scared this weekend of Hurr/Cru as is everyone else. Logic dictates that Crusaders win, but if the Hurricanes bring their A game then they can win it. Also, if Brett and MacDonald are still out the Crusaders are weakened, whereas the canes will be fresh after the bye. TAB backs Crusaders 13+ and puts the canes at long odds. All other games should be elementory wins for the home teams, so it's probably wisest to leave this one off and back the rest.

27th March 2008, 16:07	#51
buckies	yeah picking the margins will be troublesome I'm happy to back Chiefs and Blues 13+, more unsure about Force, Sharks and Tahs ability to do the same. Surprised the TAB is so adament of a 13+ outcome on the Tahs. Canes 1-7 @ HT is a nice bet @ $4.75. HT/FT on Hurr/Cru will cost me a year of my life in stress I imagine.

29th March 2008, 12:35	#52
buckies	Rodney needs to be sacked as Canes Captain Going for a penalty when trailing by 7 with 10 minutes to go and an opposition player in the bin. STUPID. Then Goppeth misses the kick. Should have gone for touch and the rolling maul try like they did with Hore before A defining moment of Hurricanes stupidity. (and no, i didn't bet on the canes, just a frustrated Wellingtonian)

29th March 2008, 13:40	#53
p-b	I think Ali Williams looks rather good in Red and Black

29th March 2008, 17:14	#55
BWDOWN	even against a less than 50% accurate crusaders the canes were never in the game. They will have to play a lot better to make the semis More importantly bar injury's will we see the 1st ever unbeaten run in super 14?? __________________ Second place is the first loser..

30th March 2008, 23:28	#56
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Crusaders are due to lose some games, no carter for 6 weeks and brett out for just as long. MacDonald only an average kicker IMO. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

31st March 2008, 14:16	#58
BWDOWN	Yea Lions are up to f*ck all esp away, so I can see Brett back by the game at the tron. __________________ Second place is the first loser..

3rd April 2008, 08:58	#59
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	I'm hoping Carter and Brett will be out for the Chiefs game You guys are dreaming, the Hurricanes did extremely well to only lose by as many as they did, it was a MIRACLE they scored in the final 20 minutes and prevented the Crusaders from getting any points. I think the last time the Crusaders were prevented from scoring in the last 20 minutes was the 2007 semi-final, just face it, the Canes could not have done any better than they did, they simply aren't good enough. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

3rd April 2008, 12:35	#60
buckies	This weeks games.... Hurricanes/Sharks will be a good match and the toughest pick of the round. Reckon Sharks haven't been that impressive while lurking at home all season. Canes 12-. Force should bounce back at home and put the Bulls down 12-. Chiefs should beat Brumbies even though they are away. 12- for the away factor. Blues should beat Tahs away. 12- for the away factor. Highlanders to beat the Lions? Woeful vs woeful. Perhaps avoid. Hoping Highlanders get a much deserved first win though. Cheetahs vs reds in SA. Another mug matchup. Go with the home team?

3rd April 2008, 23:20	#61
Phrack	last time two mugs played i picked a draw and it came through :P __________________ .......

4th April 2008, 09:08	#62
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Yes Phrack, and why don't you tell us about the other two draws you picked earlier on that earned you zero points hmmmmmmmmmm? Punk :P I need to maintain my lead this week, everyone is far too close so I'm keeping my cards close to my chest, I'm picking a couple of upsets though. Cheetahs should beat the Reds based purely on the fact their cheerleaders have their own website and some of them are very fit, I expect they'll provide an excellent distraction for the aging Latham. The real question is, who should I pick in my fantasy team this week? Now that I've dropped Carter I have a spare 2.3 million to spend elsewhere! __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

4th April 2008, 11:31	#63
buckies	You're picking the tahs to upset the Blues aren't you. Sharks/Canes should be even H2H. Weird TAB thinks Canes are favourites, no doubt because it's an NZ bookie. Surprised that they have the Cheifs as underdogs to. All in all, this is the best weekend of betting thus far! Every game is paying around the $2.50-$3.00 mark for picking the most possible margin of victory.

7th April 2008, 18:14	#64
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	ffs.... Paul Marks needs to be a big fat hairy dog up him __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

7th April 2008, 18:47	#65
Phrack	i've only ever actually picked one draw, and it came off. Funnily enough I clicked random picks to see what would come up, and it picked the canes/sharks draw and almost every other game... should have gone with it. __________________ .......

8th April 2008, 18:52	#67
Phrack	dunno what crack i was smoking that week. didnt even realise i picked a draw for the brumbies... i probably came home drunk and changed my picks :P __________________ .......

11th April 2008, 09:05	#68
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	TAB paying a very generous $3.50 for Stormers to be in the Top 4. I put $15 on it today, they have the EASIEST run of games in the remainder of the competition, should do it easy. Come on $50! :P Also, I have Casey Laulala to be top Try Scorer in competition when he was paying $20 for a cool return of $100. He's only paying $7 cos he has 4 tries and he's going to get 3 against the Lions __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

11th April 2008, 10:58	#69
_Incubus_	Tough round this week...Hardest game to call - Force v Tahs

11th April 2008, 14:37	#70
buckies	Force 12 & under. Haven't played well as of recent but are proven performers in tight matches. Clutch counts for lots. Sharks 12- or 13+ is a big call. Noone put 13+ on Highlanders yet in House of Pain. Last edited by buckies : 11th April 2008 at 14:42.

11th April 2008, 17:00	#71
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Force beat the Bulls by 1 point and the Waratahs demolished the Blues. The Tahs will win by a smidgeon. Force suck at Subiaco. $5 on Sharks 1st scoring play to be a drop goal $150 return - come on baby. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

13th April 2008, 09:47	#72
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	ahhh - to be a 'canes supporter __________________ Slow internet is worse than no internet. It's like putting your penis in once and then being required to make out for 2 hours --Matt "The Oatmeal" Inman

13th April 2008, 10:33	#73
buckies	yeah finally the canes came through Although the main test is next week. Can they do back to back performances and beat an in-form Stormers side? It'll be the game that'll determine their playoff chances.

14th April 2008, 10:15	#74
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Told you the Tahs would win Some prick has knocked me off the top of the table, whose Dragoon? __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

14th April 2008, 12:22	#75
buckies	bah, I was robbed on Tahs vs Force That last try that gave them the match was a f*ckin fluke. Force are the better team. Didn't matter as Stormers only won by 12 points when I had them 13+. Unlucky weekend as I stood to get back around $350 on my $20 bar these anomalies.

14th April 2008, 13:39	#76
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	I picked the Tahs over the Force but the Blues let me down.

14th April 2008, 16:31	#77
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	I'll say stupid Blues, they let everyone down again __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

15th April 2008, 09:48	#79
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	uh ha! I shall cut you down like wheat! __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

15th April 2008, 11:19	#80
buckies	Two BIG matchups this week Chiefs vs Crus (at Tron) Stomers vs Canes (at Newlands) Chiefs have to win to keep top 4 hopes alive. Have had a good streak of wins now and found their form, and had a week off with a bye. Crusaders have never really had a bad game (bar the one against the Force), but will be lacking Dan Carter and Reuben Thorne (Thorne ain't really a loss though ). TAB has Crusaders as hot favourites. Don't forget last years end of round robin upset in Christchurch though Stormers vs Canes. Both these teams are vying for Top 4 and it's likely the winner of this encounter will make it. Both teams have hit some good form and have talent across the park. Question is which canes team will show up on the day. TAB odds are close and favouring the Stormers 12-. Picking this game right will be a good payday. This will be the week to filter out the contenders from the pretenders.