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3rd October 2007, 03:12 | #41 |
wOOp wOOp!
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Official Team Announcement
1 Tony Woodcock 2 Anton Oliver 3 Carl Hayman 4 Keith Robinson 5 Ali Williams 6 Jerry Collins 7 Richie McCaw (c) 8 Rodney So'oialo 9 Byron Kelleher 10 Dan Carter 11 Sitiveni Sivivatu 12 Luke McAlister 13 Mils Muliaina 14 Joe Rokocoko 15 Leon MacDonald Replacements: 16 Keven Mealamu 17 Neemia Tialata 18 Chris Jack 19 Chris Masoe 20 Brendon Leonard 21 Nick Evans 22 Isaia Toeava Wearing Silver jerseys, crap! |
3rd October 2007, 06:58 | #42 |
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Sivivatu over Howlett o_0
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3rd October 2007, 08:01 | #43 | |
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Sivivatu is weak under the high ball, which I think the French will target. Still though, Henry has a plan. For he is the man |
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3rd October 2007, 08:20 | #44 |
I felt shocked
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I get worried everytime I see Kelleher's name in a Ab side.
Good to see Rodney in and Joe well could go either way, if he is hungry enough he might just win the game for them.
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3rd October 2007, 08:53 | #45 | |
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3rd October 2007, 09:55 | #46 |
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IMO thats THE strongest possible team we can name in every position especially if you take into account which players make the better impact off the bench.
CAN'T.FUCKING.WAIT. We've been waiting for GH to roll this line-up out for years now, hes finally done it. Howlett has been in good form, but IMO Sivivatu still is better in terms of the brand of football the All Blacks wants to play. Sivivatu isn't -that- bad on defence anyway and IMO he is the #1 winger in the world. (putting a couple shakey games in the RWC aside) |
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3rd October 2007, 11:17 | #48 |
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Man i hope they are just giving Sivavatu a chance to show some form because i don't believe he should be starting ahead of Howlett.
Dougie gets so involved & does so much extra work as a winger, if Sivavatu's hands let him down again im sure Doug will be back for the semifinal. I'm a little surprised that they have left Jack on the bench, i can see that Robinson is more of a starting lock than an impact guy off the bench but Jack has looked good so far, that run against Romania was awesome. |
3rd October 2007, 12:26 | #49 |
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Think of it this way. Let's say Siti or Joe didn't play in the Quarter Final.
If we make it to the semi-final, how nervous will Graham Henry feel about putting the one he leaves out into that semi-final having not played the week before when both have yet to really prove themselves in this World Cup? On the other hand, the Brains Trust is extremely confident with Howlett and I'm sure will have no problems putting him in a semi-final having missed the quarter final. It actually makes a lot of sense. Howlett clearly doesn't need any more preparation and will mow the opposition down regardless of whether he plays this week. Looks to me like the final instance of rotation policy, obviously Howlett is the in form wing and would have been chosen if the above was not the intention of the selectors. This way Siti and Joe will be more prepared to come off the bench in a possible semi or final.
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3rd October 2007, 13:02 | #50 |
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yeah - pretty sure GH has said "if Siti doesn't play in the QF he might as well go home - cos he wouldn't play for the rest of the tourney"...
Now he's not saying the same thing for Dougie - so I think we'll see Dougie again no worries. GH also said he knows some people won't like the team, but, like they say in the back street of Paris, "tough titty"
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3rd October 2007, 14:28 | #51 |
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That's a strong team. Holy shit that's a strong team.
My 2c: Keith Robinson will have to step up and really justify his place in the team for this game, otherwise I can see it being Jack/Williams for the rest of the comp. I'd pick Howlett over Sivivatu any day of the week, but the discussion above seems to have covered the pros and cons. I don't give a fuck about playing in the alternate jerseys. It's the fern that's on it, not the colour of the fabric. |
3rd October 2007, 14:42 | #52 |
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Starting to feel a little faint about all this semi final talk, it's like 1999 all over again.
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3rd October 2007, 15:04 | #53 | |
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/event/stor...ectid=10467392
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3rd October 2007, 15:37 | #54 |
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France team:
1 Olivier Milloud 2 Sébastien Bruno 3 Jean-Baptiste Poux 4 Lionel Nallet 5 Jérôme Thion 6 Serge Betsen (c) 7 Yannick Nyanga 8 Julien Bonnaire 9 Pierre Mignoni 10 Lionel Beauxis 11 Christophe Dominici 12 Yannick Jauzion 13 David Marty 14 Aurélien Rougerie 15 Clément Poitrenaud Replacements: 16 Dimitri Szarzewski 17 Nicolas Mas 18 Fabien Pelous 19 Rémy Martin 20 Jean-Baptiste Elissalde 21 David Skrela 22 Vincent Clerc Ibanez - squad Capt -> dropped. 1 average game vs Pumas & he’s OFF Pelous - previous Capt and most-capped player -> dropped. Jauzion - average vs Pumas & dropped. Now reinstated but in a different midfield combo (with Marty). Traille - form was better than Jauzion but Jauzion reinstated and Traille dropped Pieter de Villiers - their best prop and a regular under Laporte -> dropped. Betsen as Captain - often penalised and doesnt even Capt his club Dominici - the winger in a wheelchair. 99 was a lonnnnnnnnnng time ago mon amis Mignoni at scrummy. Awful vs Pumas, Elissade steadied the boat vs Ireland, yet Elissade on the bench. Haridorquanay - surely their best loosie ? not even on the bench. Beauxis - at flyhalf. Has he played at this level before ? No Michalak ? No contest, 30-50 point Ab margin. Bench to be cleared 10min after halftime to give everyone a run. |
3rd October 2007, 16:55 | #55 |
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Ignore that french team, bad info from website. Still think its going to be 30-50 points to the AB's tho =)
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3rd October 2007, 20:41 | #56 |
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This is shaping up to be the biggest rugby game for NZ in 8 years, maybe 12 years. And it could well be followed by 2 more games.
But in theory the first 10 minutes of each half will be the truely important parts - we need to be solid and accurate and even thrash them in the opening 10, and then after the break we need to finish them off properly. |
3rd October 2007, 22:43 | #57 |
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Yeah Traille is in at full back.
That back line is pretty close tho. |
4th October 2007, 00:15 | #58 |
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LE XV DE FRANCE :
Traille - Clerc, Marty, Jauzion, Heymans - (o) Beauxis, (m) Elissalde - Dusautoir, Bonnaire, Betsen - Thion, Pelous - De Villiers, Ibanez (cap.), Milloud. Remplaçants: Szarzewski, Poux, Chabal, Harinordoquy, Michalak, Dominici, Poitrenaud. |
4th October 2007, 00:35 | #59 |
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Looks like Laporte has chosen Beauxis for his powerful kicking, which they expect they'll need to ease the pressure and push the ABs back into their own half. Traille is in for Poitrenaud, who starts on the bench. Clerc has been pretty good so far and Rougerie hasn't really deserved a spot. I thought Pelous was injured, but obviously he's over it. Nice to see Chabal there, never a dull moment once he gets on.
I reckon 43-10 to the ABs. |
4th October 2007, 09:46 | #60 | |
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4th October 2007, 10:24 | #61 |
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Awesome, third world cup in a row where we are playing our best fullback at centre.
Stoked. |
4th October 2007, 13:16 | #62 |
Mmm... Sacrilicious
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I think MacDonald is our best fullback.
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4th October 2007, 13:53 | #63 |
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BRING BACK CULLEN!
AND JONO GIBBES AT LOCK!
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4th October 2007, 14:33 | #65 |
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It will be sweet.
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4th October 2007, 17:55 | #66 | |
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And in 03 we played MacDonald at centre against Aussie in that... that... semifinal *weeps*, and he was outside Spencer/Mauger, so he was always going to struggle. Bottom line is Mils at centre and MacDonald at fullback is far, far better than the 99/03 combos in the big matches. However, I still think we should be starting Toeava at 13, with Muliaina on the bench. Only because it is the last "safe-ish" chance we have to really test Toeava's abilities in that role. Bringing him on at centre for the last 20 minutes with the game in the bag (if that hopefully happens) will not prove anything.
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4th October 2007, 19:09 | #67 |
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Could bring back Umaga.
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4th October 2007, 19:13 | #68 |
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Pfft... bring back Joe Stanley.
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4th October 2007, 20:40 | #69 |
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I'm guessing 33-14
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5th October 2007, 13:28 | #70 |
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What's the story with Lauaki now that his suspension was quashed, can the team be adjusted to put him on the bench if the coaches decided to ?
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5th October 2007, 14:51 | #71 |
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Nope, I don't think so. Only if a late injury (Xenu forbid!) rules someone like Masoe out. But he can play in the semi now if needed.
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6th October 2007, 11:38 | #72 | |
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/event/stor...ectid=10468287 The IRB are complete knobs. Lets see, you can have Blue Vs Grey. Or White Vs grey. Are they colour blind. I think the French may have said this other option, as they will hope the similar colours confuse NZ. The problem against scotland was we had grey with some black, and they had an opposite pattern of Blue and grey. That is where the confusion came in. Oh and my prediction now is 46 (6 Tries, 5 Conv, 2 penalties) -24(2T, 2C, 2Penalty/Drop Goals) |
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6th October 2007, 11:41 | #73 |
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Fuck Adidas. And fuck Nike.
None of this is about what the players, coaches or fans want.
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6th October 2007, 12:12 | #74 |
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Fuck the French management, fuck the IRB. This is all just a distraction. We're less than 24 hours away from gametime, and I hope the ABs are ignoring all this shit and focusing on the job. Fuck, run out shirtless for all I care, just do the job.
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6th October 2007, 15:17 | #77 |
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i think the Abs should win this game easily...
especially since its not played in france. pre-match im not excited by this game ...nz v oz im alraedy looking forward to.
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6th October 2007, 16:43 | #79 |
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As much as I think England are a bunch of pretenders, I think they can beat Australia. The Australian forwards rate themselves higher than anyone outside the team does, and the English scrum must be looking forward to the match-up.
As for the jerseys, FFS why can't the IRB just say NZ in black, France in white, and the coin-toss can take a jump ?? |
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This article with Robbie Deans sums it up pretty nicely. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/4/...ectid=10468258
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