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Old 11th October 2022, 13:04     #481
Ab
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dipping bullets in pig fat
the rightwing meme that just won't die
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Old 11th October 2022, 13:24     #482
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The person I feel most sorry for is Ben Affleck. But then again, maybe he donates to Chechens too and gets his kicks watching both sides fight with the deadliest weapons on the market.
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Old 11th October 2022, 13:38     #483
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Wouldn't fatty bullets be hard to handle though?
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Old 11th October 2022, 13:48     #484
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I'm not sure if you're denying what I'm saying, or denying it stops Muslims from entering heaven. Given how much shit I get these days I'll presume you are denying the Azov Battalion are dipping their bullets in pig fat when fighting Chechens. Whether heaven exists is outside the scope of this thread.

Ukrainian fighters grease bullets against Chechens with pig fat
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...s-with-pig-fat
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Old 11th October 2022, 14:03     #485
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I like this old-school Snopes. Perfect headline and claim with a FALSE badge to get me to read the entire thing looking for a "Unfortunately it didn't work, and they entered heaven anyway."
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Old 11th October 2022, 19:36     #486
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This doesn't really belong here - but it doesn't belong in MAGA threads either.

It's a weird nexus between the two.

U.S. States That Wish to Join Russia Will Be Considered
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Old 11th October 2022, 19:58     #487
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Alaska, return to the motherland!
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Old 12th October 2022, 12:45     #488
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Liz Truss:
Step One:
"As you know, I am a huge Zionist"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4povRsvMiGI

Step Two:
The Bank of England restarts quantitative easing
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/...tative-easing/

Step Three:
Liz Truss will request urgent meeting of NATO leaders
https://army.com.ua/war/liz-truss-wi...o-leaders.html

Step Four:
NYC Emergency Management shares important steps for New Yorkers to follow if a nuclear attack occurs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-5d7V4Sbqk
Make sure you are as close to the blast site as possible.



Imagine if humanity is ended by these garbage excuses of human beings: Liz Truss, and Zelensky. Kind of funny, actually.
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Old 14th October 2022, 12:15     #489
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Predictably no one is coming to save Ukraine. Many promises of more air defense systems AFTER missile campaign has started.

No more weapons, no more loans. Zelensky is probably already in Israel with the rest of his naturalised family to live out his days spending his offshore billions. Few more green screen videos, maybe a few holograms. Meh.

NYT wishes Russia would target civilians more. They're running out of rockets! buh, their rockets are so useless they can't even as many civilians as NATO rockets! Idiots.
https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/sta...16845397622786
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The Russian missile attacks that killed at least 19 people across Ukraine on Monday were wide-ranging, but they were not as deadly as they could have been. That has renewed questions over the quality of Russia’s weapons.


And all the captured shithole wasteland in the East is being taken back.

And Russia will supply gas to Europe via Turkey, but not if price controls are introduced.

They wanted regime change in Russia, but Europe is about to regime change itself.
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Old 14th October 2022, 13:04     #490
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Old 14th October 2022, 15:45     #491
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Musk’s SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab

Probably unrelated:

Elon Musk is under federal investigations, Twitter says in court filing
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Old 14th October 2022, 16:01     #492
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pffft, Elon looking for an angle to get taxpayer money? that never happens.
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Old 14th October 2022, 16:08     #493
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Starlink was able to dodge Russian jamming efforts in real-time. Raytheon wouldn't even piss in Biden's mouth without a Purchase Order. Elon has earned his pay.

SpaceX beating Russian jamming attack was ‘eyewatering’: DoD official
https://breakingdefense.com/2022/04/...-dod-official/
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“From an EW technologist perspective, that is fantastic. That paradigm and how they did that is kind of eyewatering to me,” said Dave Tremper, director of electronic warfare for the Pentagon’s acquisition office. “The way that Starlink was able to upgrade when a threat showed up, we need to be able to have that ability.


On that subject, many Ukrainian officials are bitching about losing Starlink comms to Rammstein NATO command the moment they push through the frontline. Suggesting to me that Starlink / Pentagon has a geofence in place rather than Russian jamming / Elon fucking with them.

Smart cannon fodder, kept on a need-to-know basis.
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Old 14th October 2022, 16:58     #494
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Yeah it's pretty cool. And also a great example of how bureaucracy fucks everything and hobbles it.
Not news to anyone, but great seeing such a concrete example - little old SpaceX besting the best funded military in the world (USA, not Russia)

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Old 14th October 2022, 18:11     #495
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More good news: IRIS-T and NASAMS systems on the way to Ukraine. Two of the most advanced and capable air defence systems in the world. Fuck ‘em up boys.
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Old 15th October 2022, 01:44     #496
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In 3-6 months time when they're trained in how to operate them, and if the electricity grid & trains are still running I'm sure they will be useful. The horse has bolted.

Ukraine is on it's 7th or 8th mobilization. Russia is just now applying it's 1st. The appetite and capability for this war is non-existent. End it.

anti-NATO Protests all across Europe. By association probably anti-EU too.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202210/1276862.shtml
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Over the weekend, protests filled the streets of Paris, Berlin and Prague with some shouting out "leave NATO" or "Our country first", according to media reports, which analysts said hinted at a deeper crisis that Europe is now facing.


France's oil refineries, depots, and nuclear reactor operators are on strike
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../jmht-o13.html
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Workers at the ExxonMobil fuel depot in Dunkirk are also on strike. In response to Borne’s threats on Tuesday, the strike spread Wednesday morning, as workers at the Donges refinery and maintenance workers at five nuclear reactors walked out. Now six out of France’s seven oil refineries are on strike. By Wednesday night, 30.8 percent of petrol stations in France had no fuel.

Liz Truss is ALREADY getting pressure to resign
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...enarios-tories
and QE started back up, lol.


Germany is burning horse dung to keep warm
https://fortune.com/2022/10/08/energ...-gas-shortage/
Quote:
Inexperience is also evident in Germany, where the country’s association of chimney sweeps is dealing with a flood of requests to connect new and old stoves, and customers are inquiring about burning horse dung and other obscure fuels


People in Poland are burning garbage, and Romania is capping firewood prices as desperation grows amid Europe's energy crisis
https://www.businessinsider.in/stock...w/94690635.cms


USA Pentagon keeps walking back / correcting anything Biden and Harris says.

This is NATO. It's fucked. It's gassed out.
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Old 15th October 2022, 06:01     #497
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^ They”ve been training on them for months already you idiot. I recall a number of vatnik copelords like yourself saying the same thing about HIMARS right before a handful of them completely changed the course of the war.
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Old 15th October 2022, 10:25     #498
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You should make a YT chan Nich.
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Old 15th October 2022, 10:35     #499
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^ They”ve been training on them for months already you idiot. I recall a number of vatnik copelords like yourself saying the same thing about HIMARS right before a handful of them completely changed the course of the war.

No missiles into Donbas during a ceasefire, no Russia invasion.
No NATO weapons and foreign mercenary airsoft champions, no prolonged cannon fodder meat grinders.
No ISIS-style truck bombing, no missiles taking out infrastructure.


The ball has been in NATO / Ukraine's court for 8 years. They've invested in this slaughter.
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Old 15th October 2022, 10:48     #500
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Russia chose to invade. Russia can withdraw anytime they want to, conflict over. One man’s ego prevents it.
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Old 15th October 2022, 11:13     #501
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Biden / Nuland chose to regime change coup d'état. Publicly stating Ukraine can now join EU, and maybe join NATO. Russia couldn't have made it more clear that this was a threat to security of its borders.

Last time Russia attempted to set up something on US borders ... well OK that was in response to US setting up Jupiter missiles in Turkey ... but still, US chose to invade Cuba. Only US didn't use US soldiers, or even weapons. Just a bunch of ex-pat Cubans to be slaughtered on the beaches. Then CIA killed the president.

USA will fight to the last man when it's not their soldier's going into battle.
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Old 15th October 2022, 11:30     #502
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^ Oh are you still swallowing that old horseshit pretext about Russia feeling threatened by NATO? They hardly batted an eyelid when Sweden and Finland announced they were joining, because Putin doesn’t actually give a fuck. He just wants to grab as much land as possible.
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Old 15th October 2022, 12:03     #503
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Sweden and Finland haven't joined. Their application to join came in response to Russian invasion. If anything, this gave Russia even more reason to make an example out of Ukraine.

Turkey, Hungary can -- and likely will -- veto the NATO application if it is seen as more provocation toward Russia. Given all the celebration that Sweden / Finland were sticking it to Putin with their application, it's clear it was intended to provoke.


Ukraine's borders are about to get ripped to shreds. Poland has a electricity supply agreement with Ukraine which is on hold while Ukraine's lights are out. Poland has invested in energy carrying infrastructure across Ukraine land. Are they really about to let this investment / energy supply go to waste?

If Poland rejoices at a destitute Germany, imagine how little regard they have for Ukraine. When regime change in Ukraine is underway, when the East is getting carved up, Poland will take what's theirs. Then, I hope you will be fair and say Poland "just wants to grab as much land as possible"

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Old 15th October 2022, 12:11     #504
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Map detailing the largely untapped gas and oil fields in Ukraine (2015)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/com...d_gas_and_oil/
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Old 15th October 2022, 12:16     #505
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Where’s the Russian move on Sweden and Finland in response to that so-called provocation? Nowhere because Putin knows he’d get his ass kicked. He can barely hold position in a small piece of Ukraine. Meanwhile, winter is coming and he’s continuing to send untrained conscripts with rusty AK-47s and no warm clothing straight to the front line. It’s a snowballing disaster for Russia.
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Old 15th October 2022, 12:31     #506
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Sweden and Finland haven't been firing mortars into ethnic Russian towns and communities for the last 8 years. If they want an invasion, they should start doing a bit of that.

Who cares if Ukraine is wearing merino underwear, and Russia is wearing cotton? Ukrainians sleep on goose feather pillows, while Russia has polyurethane? Ukrainians have a gun with less rust than Russia.

Reports on all sides confirm Ukraine (+ foreign gun bro mercenaries) loses 5 soldiers for every 1 Russian soldier lost. Ukraine is many many mobilizations deep, Russia is on their first mobilization.
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Old 15th October 2022, 12:48     #507
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If Putin was as serious about the NATO expansionist threat as he claims to be, he’d be attacking Sweden and Finland as well. He isn’t serious. There are no reliable reports on losses from either side, however the Ukrainians are highly motivated to defend their homeland, well-trained by the west, and well-supplied with modern weapons and equipment. The Russian conscripts are an alcoholic rabble who have to buy their own stuff and have no desire to be there. Russian regulars including VDV and special forces are already severely depleted, hence the need to resort to such low quality troops. They cannot win.
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Old 15th October 2022, 13:15     #508
Nich
 
Chechen "military parade"
https://odysee.com/@Dualit%C3%A9Universelle:1/AXAMAT:b
looks like they bought / looted some of Ukraine's Javelins.

Wagner group seems pretty capable with their chaffing underpants and 1 rusty AK47 with mismatching ammo...
https://odysee.com/@Z%C3%ADcerO:6/PM...---Popasnaya:3

Wagner, Chechens in Bahkmut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB7Qng6e_zU
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Old 15th October 2022, 13:48     #509
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-...turn/101539410
Quote:
Mr Kwarteng's resignation came as Conservative politicians agonised over whether to try to oust their second leader this year.

Ms Truss was elected last month to replace Boris Johnson, who was forced out in July.

Some reports suggest senior Conservatives are plotting to replace Mr Truss with a joint ticket of Rishi Sunak and Penny Mordaunt, her two closest rivals in the summer contest for the party leadership, though it's unclear how that could be achieved.


Self-regime changed!
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Old 15th October 2022, 14:24     #510
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You can post dodgy links all day long. It's not going to change what's clearly happening on the battlefield: Russia is moving into panic mode.
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Old 15th October 2022, 15:01     #511
Nich
 
You can repeat NAFO, Kyiv Independent all day long too. Nothing is "clearly" happening on the battlefield. What a stupid thing to say.

NATO sends winter clothing, generators, tents to soldiers in Ukraine while their own people begin to freeze. Time to storm the palace. No voting, tax-paying European gives a fuck about helping Ukrainian soldiers stay warm when they themselves need that exact kind of help this Winter.
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Old 16th October 2022, 21:54     #512
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War crimes of the armed forces and security forces of Ukraine: torture and inhumane treatment

Second report

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf
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The data that has been accumulated since the first report by the Foundation for Democracy Studies provides ground to conclude that torture and inhumane treatment inflicted by the Security Forces of Ukraine (SBU), by the Ukrainian armed forces, the National Guard and other formations within the Interior Ministry of Ukraine, as well as by illegal armed groups, such as Right Sector, have not only continued but are gaining in scale and are becoming systematic.

In order to investigate specific cases of torture, inhumane or degrading treatment, experts of the Foundation for Democracy Studies interviewed the ex-prisoners released by the Ukrainian side. This report includes the results of interviews with over 200 prisoners released by the Ukrainian side. The interviews were conducted by experts of the Foundation during the period from 25 August 2014 to 20 January 2015.


For balance, Russian war crimes: https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/09/1127691


The difference is one side is supposedly "fighting for liberal, democratic values." and they need your donations and support. Please.
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Old 17th October 2022, 06:07     #513
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If the raping and pillaging Russian army don't like the way they're being treated they're free to fuck off back to Russia.
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Old 17th October 2022, 10:23     #514
Nich
 
If history started February 2022, I'd completely agree with you on that one.

We should be rejoicing. In 2023 there will be one less nazi regime, and one less zionist regime. It's a twofer! I'm all for that.
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Old 17th October 2022, 10:50     #515
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The difference is one side is supposedly "fighting for liberal, democratic values." and they need your donations and support. Please.
I don't quite understand that.

I get that the mass media optics and coverage are that Ukraine are the liberable, democratic ones that need public support and that Russia are the mean baddies adjacent to the Red Scare era, and that the first casualty of war is the truth, and it's all propaganda at this point..

But what is the Casus Belli for Russia invading Ukraine? How is their invasion justified, and how is it so justified that it puts them on equal footing as the defending side?
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Old 17th October 2022, 11:13     #516
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Well, yeah, if history started in February 2022 it looks like Russia is meddling in the affairs of a foreign country to grab land (i.e how we perceive Crimea).

-Donbas (ethnic Russians) has been in a hot war with Ukraine national guard since 2014 (probably earlier than that). But who cares if Ukraine is attacking itself, right?
-Russian language and culture was banned in Ukraine essentially dividing the country more (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1S111N)
-USA have been arming and training Ukraine assisting in this fight for many years (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWHviwLMy8)
-The USA goal, stated publicly at least, is to "weaken Russia"... how's that going?
-The leadership of Donbas have been appealing to Russia to provide assistance also
-Pretty much all ceasefire agreements have failed (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31435812)
-Dialogue stopped, now it gets resolved with violence.
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Old 17th October 2022, 11:31     #517
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Russian revanchism runs deeper than Putin

Quote:
The West should be extremely cautious about welcoming Russians now trying to flee Putin’s mobilization order - they pose a security risk, says Petr Pavel.
It's interesting how Russia managed to get so many of its men into its neighbouring countries so quickly.

We could just assume that the Russians aren't competent enough to actually do anything like this intentionally, that's what the evidence is showing. But probably prudent to consider the alternative.
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Old 17th October 2022, 18:57     #518
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War crimes of the armed forces and security forces of Ukraine: torture and inhumane treatment

Second report

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf




For balance, Russian war crimes: https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/09/1127691


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© The Foundation for the Study of Democracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founda...of_Democracies

Fake Ukrainophobic publications: OSCE and Russian propaganda

sounds legit
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Old 17th October 2022, 22:14     #519
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Ok, it's corroborated by United Nations report:
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/...3March2016.pdf

Start at Page 15.

Also includes DPR torturing Azov.

And this which corroborates the Amnesty International report of Azov using civilian buildings for military positions:
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161. Another major concern is the ongoing presence of military forces in civilian areas and indiscriminate shelling continue to be the main factors endangering civilians, and affects their ability to access housing, land and property. During the reporting period, OHCHR collected detailed information about the conduct of hostilities by Ukrainian armed forces and the Azov regiment in and around Shyrokyne (31km east of Mariupol), from the summer of 2014 to date. Mass looting of civilian homes was documented, as well as targeting of civilian areas between September 2014 and February 2015. Residents displaced to Mariupol have received little assistance and information about the status of their homes. Unable to return but for short periods of time to examine the damage, IDPs from Shyrokyne exchange video footage and photographs to try to track the condition of their homes.

Also includes DPR occupying civilian homes too.


Insurgency combat. CIA did the same working with Mujahideen in Afghanistan vs Russia, working with Al Qaeda / ISIS in Syria ("moderate rebels"), KLA in Bosnia.


A woman's testimony of being detained at their place of work by Ukraine soldiers using the building (originally from Der Spiegel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tukuRh3eVF0&t=44s

Bragging about disappearing people on Ukrainian TV:
https://twitter.com/UkrainianCrimes/...68208575963136


This is why, prior to 2022 Ukraine was known as the most corrupt country in Europe:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/201...europe-ukraine

What a shithole. Who really truly cares if Russia carves it up, or USA turns it into a puppet?
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Old 18th October 2022, 12:24     #520
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Westerners Live in Denial, Convinced They’re the Good Guys
https://original.antiwar.com/cook/20...the-good-guys/
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