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30th November 2011, 13:28 | #1 | |
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Labour leadership contest
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30th November 2011, 14:42 | #2 |
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He's apparently teaming up with Nanaia Mahuta. I'm not a huge Cunliffe fan but Nanaia seems like a very nice and genuine person. The combination would certainly better than anything with Goff.
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30th November 2011, 15:03 | #3 |
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I would really like to see Cunliffe as Leader. He's one Fulbright Scholar, Harvard educated bad muthafuka.
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30th November 2011, 16:54 | #4 |
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I like what little I've seen of Shearer
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30th November 2011, 17:05 | #5 |
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Nanaia Mahuta - married her first cousin, or was that someone else?
And as far as Mr Parker's consideration, I think that's not given lightly... |
30th November 2011, 17:17 | #6 |
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Of the aspirants, the one I would most like to see as Leader because I think he has a lot to offer the country is David Shearer. The one I'd like to see as Leader because I think it would guarantee another National victory is everyone else.
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30th November 2011, 17:45 | #7 |
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Nanaia Mahuta... is she hot? YES SHE IS!
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30th November 2011, 18:32 | #8 |
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Her list of achievements seems to be
That's leadership material right there, Labour! |
30th November 2011, 19:13 | #9 |
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Cunliffe looks like he's been chasing parked cars. Just sayin'.
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30th November 2011, 20:06 | #10 |
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Any of the people being talked about have the ability to do the job, the question is whether they have what it takes to win a popularity contest.
Cunliffe - Definitely has the qualifications for the job, probably front runner. Pretty good public speaker on average. I can imagine some people thinking that he sounds a little too much like a politician. It's like a skill that he's learned, I can't imagine him talking that way in a normal conversation. Definitely has a politicians smile. Little - A bit wooden, maybe with a little coaching he'd be a decent candidate. Mahuta - A bit too unemotional. Parker - Too quiet to be leader, would be a good 2nd in command though. Robertson - The only other contender IMO. Good public speaker, easy going, doesn't sound rehearsed like Cunliffe. Maybe a little soft for the top job but his likability factor might end up making attacks of this nature look spiteful. Sounds more genuine than Cunliffe. Shearer - Good amount of life experience, but not a great public speaker by any stretches of the imagination. Unless he gets some coaching I can't see him taking it. Takes ages to get small statements out unless it's something rehearsed. it's interesting that with some speech coaching this lineup would look a lot different. |
30th November 2011, 21:17 | #11 |
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Ab why are you ruining my Liz roll?
I haven't heard of David Parker until yesterday. I guess that is a plus rather than a minus, considering how bad Labour had been. |
30th November 2011, 21:38 | #12 | |
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Cunliffe - arrogant, comes across as entitled, suspicion abounds that he set Goff up to fail by withholding from him the figures that Key skewered him on in the leaders' debates. Does not look good on camera. Little - not a snowball's chance in hell. Couldn't even win a seat with the backing of the EPMU. If you can't win an electorate you don't get a seat at the big table. Mahuta - next. Parker - got smashed in Otago, got back in on the list. Jumped to Epsom, got smashed, got back in on the list. If you can't win an electorate you don't get a seat at the big table. He was Attorney-General while the Labour Govt was stomping all over god-knows-how-many laws. Fucked Chris Knox's wife while Knox was paralysed after a stroke, classy, good luck getting the media to forget that one. Oh and he squints when he smiles, can't stand people like that. Robertson - gay, bright, gay, one of Helen Clark's pets, gay, and inexperienced. And gay. His pitiful performance in the House when Heather Roy sidestepped them all on the VSM bill will hang around his neck for years. Don't get me wrong I think he might make a good leader, but not for at least another term. Shearer - the ONLY one of the present Labour crop who has a life story that can match Key's and better it. The ONLY one of the contenders who can credibly claim to be a New Guy and not one of the same old hacks. |
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30th November 2011, 21:41 | #13 | |
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So Shearer took over Clarks Mt Albert seat. He also came from 12-14years with the UN where Clark and Carter have since gone to. Conclusion: DAVID SHEARER IS HELEN CLARK'S SPAWN |
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30th November 2011, 21:53 | #14 | |
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I also think it's weird that people who have dedicated their lives to politics are somehow at a disadvantage to those who haven't. |
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30th November 2011, 23:00 | #15 | |
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30th November 2011, 23:16 | #16 |
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Dunno if NZ is ready for a gay PM. Probably but you never know.
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1st December 2011, 00:39 | #17 | |
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1st December 2011, 02:13 | #18 |
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Cunliffe would probably do a good job and is certainly intelligent. But he'll have no traction with the anti-intellectuals in a country where a significant portion of the population pride themselves on being stupid. Shearer is intelligent, has a hope of winning the popularity contests, and has a nice life story....
... which probably means neither of the above two will win, since David Parker appears to be most popular with his colleagues. Labour = |
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1st December 2011, 04:08 | #21 |
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She's won an electorate seat since getting in to Parliament on the list in 1996.
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1st December 2011, 06:20 | #22 |
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So I guess she hasn't done 'sweet fuck all' since getting there, seeing as she's won an electorate...
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1st December 2011, 10:32 | #23 |
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Whoa, she won an electorate seat 14 years ago? Outstanding! Real salt of the earth stuff!
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1st December 2011, 10:41 | #24 |
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Damien O'Connor
* Slightly right leaning, so will appeal to current NAT voters * Speaks his mind * Not a Union Hack * Only LAB MP to win a seat off National http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...-says-O-Connor
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I believe she's also done a shitload of community work in Hamilton/Waikato. Would love to see her as a deputy prime minister come 4 years time! Also she doesn't seem like your classic sycophantic politician (unlike most of the rest of labour). Last edited by MrTTTT : 1st December 2011 at 11:56. |
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1st December 2011, 13:01 | #26 |
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Yeah my bad, I misread what Ab said. Still, I'll always think of her as Nanaia Mahooters.
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1st December 2011, 13:03 | #27 |
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So I meet up for coffee with a friend who works for parliamentary services today. Interestingly enough, the "joke" about Mr. Cunliffe around parliamentary services is "...the "T" is silent"
That made me LOL for a good minute. So yeah...not a great start when parliament staff thinks you're a cunt. |
1st December 2011, 13:07 | #28 | |
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She coasted in to Parliament on the Labour list then coasted in to an electorate thanks to local connections, and since getting in to Parliament she's done nothing. Her CV features titles like Co-executive Deputy Junior Assistant of whatever. She is utterly unqualified for the role of leader of anything and has been included as part of a hypothetical Cunliffe-Mahuta team to garner support among brown and female groups, nothing else. Standard Labour operating procedure - all about the internal Labour factions, nothing about ability. |
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1st December 2011, 13:13 | #29 | |
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LOL Shot bro. |
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1st December 2011, 18:09 | #30 |
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Parker blinks, joins Team Shearer:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...eadership-race |
1st December 2011, 18:23 | #31 |
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That could work.
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1st December 2011, 19:28 | #32 |
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RNZNews: "Parker was also concerned about forthcoming Sunday paper reports on his relationship."
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1st December 2011, 19:42 | #33 |
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So how is the decision ultimately reached? Caucus votes on it or something?
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2nd December 2011, 12:04 | #36 |
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Never had much time for Tamihere, but this was amusing:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ty-pick-smarmy |
4th December 2011, 11:36 | #37 |
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Extended interviews by Bryce Edwards
David Shearer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMu30...eature=related David Cunliffe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OgeRxqXAFI |
4th December 2011, 15:13 | #38 |
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IMO Cunliffe's interview was really dry. Maybe because people know he is the #3 in Labour they asked him all sorts of dry questions. Shearer's was much more interesting.
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4th December 2011, 20:41 | #39 |
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I'm in favor of Cunliffe. He stands for everything that is labour, has the credibility of having been there through both recent regimes, and has the support of Mr Goff.
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Shearer... stutters, and it seems like foreign policy is the only area that he outstrips Cunliffe's knowledge. Cunliffe is no slouch, he has private and public sector experience and a very impressive set of academic qualifications. Quite frankly I think he'll slay Key three years from now unless he fucks up badly, or if his caucus doesn't get behind him. The latter is actually quite likely, since he represents a far greater degree of reform than Shearer. Shearer is being touted as a fresh face, but actually it's Cunliffe that isn't liked by the old guard. http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/david...-4588692/video This is the best head to head I've seen of the two, Shearer only looked more confident on Afghanistan. Actually I think Shearer should be foreign affairs spokesperson. My only real criticism of Cunliffe is that he's very American in his approach to making speeches. |
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