Auckland Super Mayor Candidacy thread - Page 2

CCS · 24th September 2010, 09:42

Be polite you fucking bitches - Ab

StN · 24th September 2010, 14:11

Ok - what did I miss...

Jodi · 24th September 2010, 14:19

Bad CCS, No Biscuit! (what did he do?)

I think the general argument for decriminalising any illicit drug is so that its manufacture, distribution and taxation can be controlled by the government.

Then they can track the users, manage their health benefits, and do public education. Eventually it becomes socially marginalised so that only a small subsection of society does it. Which is the best you can hope for when dealing with socially unacceptable behaviour in a large democracy.

But mainly for the tax revenue.

CCS · 24th September 2010, 14:26

Ab · 24th September 2010, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Eventually it becomes socially marginalised so that only a small subsection of society does it.

Yeah, like alcohol.

fixed_truth · 24th September 2010, 16:30

I can see the logic of making the misuse of drugs a health problem rather than a justice problem but to me it's seems like a big risk to take with one of the most dangerous drugs out there. Let's see what happens with weed first.

Portugal =! New Zealand

Noodles · 24th September 2010, 16:33

Btw, speaking of drugs, wtf is up with this guy? http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/candidates/nga-dave

Profile basically says, I'm a truck driver with little education and smokes marijuana. I don't think he's going to get many votes.

adonis · 24th September 2010, 16:55

Jodi's argument is one side of it.

Here's a highly addictive drug which has the effect of destroying people's lives and, well, making them bat-shit crazy. If people are stupid enough to smoke the stuff in the first place, I doubt the fact that it's illegal and therefore harder to obtain will stop them. Keeping it illegal just throws more gun-powder on the fire. I don't want to give drug addicts more incentive to keep their problems to themselves. I don't want to give them more things to be paranoid about when their brain is already being shot to pieces. I heard a story about a P-addict who threw a baby from a moving car because he was being chased by the cops, when you're dealing with people in that kind of situation the worst thing you can possibly do is back them further into a corner.

Another point is that by decrimilising it you effectively eliminate all the organised crime associated with it. Decriminalising drugs and regulating their production/distribution would have a far greater impact on gangs than banning gang patches ever could.

adonis · 24th September 2010, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Let's see what happens with weed first.

That I agree with.

Jodi · 24th September 2010, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Yeah, like alcohol.

Yea, and prohibition works too.

Drug use / over use / abuse == Solvable?

fixed_truth · 24th September 2010, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

Here's a highly addictive drug which has the effect of destroying people's lives and, well, making them bat-shit crazy. If people are stupid enough to smoke the stuff in the first place, I doubt the fact that it's illegal and therefore harder to obtain will stop them. Keeping it illegal just throws more gun-powder on the fire. I don't want to give drug addicts more incentive to keep their problems to themselves. I don't want to give them more things to be paranoid about when their brain is already being shot to pieces. I heard a story about a P-addict who threw a baby from a moving car because he was being chased by the cops, when you're dealing with people in that kind of situation the worst thing you can possibly do is back them further into a corner.

Yep some good points there.

My concern would be that there would be a greater number of users due to it's increased availability, including teenagers (who do stupid shit).

Lightspeed · 24th September 2010, 19:37

Sweet, they are online.

This candidate is the best I think:
http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/.../aileen-austin

Or maybe this guy:
http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/...ymond-presland

I like how he has to remind us that despite all appearances, blood and not sawdust runs in his veins.

Lightspeed · 24th September 2010, 19:42

All the candidates can be found here:
http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/...auckland-mayor

Pepsi · 24th September 2010, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

All the candidates can be found here:
http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/...auckland-mayor

"Test Candidate" gets my vote!

madmaxii · 26th September 2010, 21:43

Fuck yeah Pepsi.

Far better platform than the others.

Quote:

doesn't exist.

That's what I'm after

GM · 27th September 2010, 15:12

So there was a full page ad put in the Herald today (section A) by family first rating 5 of the candidates using smiley / sad faces in place of 'yes' 'no' 'not sure/maybe' for a selection of family first 'values'. The propaganda dial was up to 11 on this one.

The candidate with the most smiley faces in family first eyes was 'piss in the garden' Andrew Williams.

Just to put a price on that, a full page ad costs approx $38,000.

Simon Prast, unsurprisingly got 0 smiley faces.

madmaxii · 27th September 2010, 16:24

Probably a good idea to "vote the opposite" then.

crocos · 27th September 2010, 16:27

Maybe, or maybe make up your own mind?

cyc · 30th September 2010, 13:15

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10677053

Quote:

The Auckland City Mayor was asked on TVNZ's Close Up last night what position, if any, he would offer the Mayor of Manukau, his main rival, if he won the October 9 election.

"He's a good bloke and got a lot of talent but he's not up to the job," Mr Banks said during an at-times heated debate. "He can't deliver consistent, decisive, stable leadership on tough decisions from day one."

If he could find a role for him it "certainly wouldn't be a leadership role" because we "don't want South Auckland replicated across the rest of Auckland. His city is a social disaster."

Translation: Whities of Auckland and North Shore, vote for me or else you might be overrun by dirty niggers.

CCS · 30th September 2010, 13:43

Still, I agree with him that Brown is not up to the job. Transparency but with limits. Contracts for the boys. Acting nutty (bizarre self-flagellation). It all makes me think he is a bit of a lunatic who is not really stable under pressure.

fixed_truth · 30th September 2010, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyc

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10677053
Translation: Whities of Auckland and North Shore, vote for me or else you might be overrun by dirty niggers.

Disgusting. I'm liking the current trend on ipredict - Banks 0.18c Brown 0.81c
https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?d...ct=MAYOR.BANKS

ZoSo · 30th September 2010, 16:10

I thought our candidates were bad but after watching the Wellington clowns on Back Benches, we're not so bad anymore!

JP · 1st October 2010, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by fixed_truth

Disgusting. I'm liking the current trend on ipredict - Banks 0.18c Brown 0.81c
https://www.ipredict.co.nz/app.php?d...ct=MAYOR.BANKS

This site seems potentially profitable.

leadinjector · 1st October 2010, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Sweet, they are online.

This candidate is the best I think:
http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/.../aileen-austin

Or maybe this guy:
http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/...ymond-presland

I like how he has to remind us that despite all appearances, blood and not sawdust runs in his veins.

http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/candidates/nga-dave

id totally vote for this guy, he seems legit

JP · 2nd October 2010, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by leadinjector

http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/candidates/nga-dave

id totally vote for this guy, he seems legit

If it looks like Len Brown is going to beat Banks easily come election day i'd rather give my vote to this guy than Brown. Then I could say I voted for an honest politician, hah.

PhX · 4th October 2010, 09:53

Cant some of these retards a least get a decent photo before they APPLY TO help RUN THE LARGEST CITY IN NZ!

The Edge · 4th October 2010, 10:28

Great pose by Shannon Gillies.

crocos · 4th October 2010, 10:40

Nga Dave still makes me LOL. It's like he's looking at you like you're a piece of shit and you've made him mad - are you going to vote for someone that looks at you like that?

^BITES^ · 4th October 2010, 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by crocos

Nga Dave still makes me LOL. It's like he's looking at you like you're a piece of shit and you've made him mad - are you going to vote for someone that looks at you like that?

Vote for me or I'll steal your fucking mags.

CCS · 4th October 2010, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Edge

Great pose by Shannon Gillies.

Great blurb too.

Quote:

Hi

How's it going? Good I hope. 2010 has been an awesome year and I'm in no doubt it can only get better for Aucklanders. You are all about to take part in a major historical moment and I encourage all of you to get involved in the upcoming election whether by voting or getting to know your council and mayoral candidates. By that, I don't just mean on the surface. You need to know who is financially backing them and what those backers expect if their candidate wins. You also probably need to assess if candidate promises can be fulfilled and you should find out who the council staff are. Council's elected representatives will be taking advice from these guys when it comes to forming their decisions on matters that impact you so you should get an understanding of who will be in the administration. Just so you all know, apart from three mates who've helped me by starting a net profile and getting some stickers and posters printed - that's my whole campaign. There is no corporate or political backing.

My one election promise is completely deliverable. If I am voted in as mayor I will donate half my salary to either a charity of the peoples' choice or council will hold a street party. The street will be chosen by council staff. They have a better understanding of what we can do and also they will be able to take care of safety and logistical concerns. The second election to find out what option Aucklanders wanted would be held on a social media site to keep costs down.

Just to let you all in on my campaign - I'm going for the apathy vote. I'm fine with JB and Len fighting it out for the politically aware but I'm after the people who think all politicians are the same so why bother? At the last Auckland city election, my understanding is, only around 40 per cent of eligible voters turned up to vote. So the people have not given anyone a clear mandate to run the city. I'm interested in getting as many of the apathetic to vote for me as possible. So if you don't care about politics, don't know who to vote for, you're only voting for a candidate because your parents tell you to or you're going to vote for someone with nice eyes just take a second thought. You can check out my policies and thoughts on the official face-book page, Shannon Gillies for Auckland SuperCity Mayor.

Great. 40% of eligible voters can't be bothered voting and you can't be bothered mounting a serious campaign. Why wouldn't voters bother filling out their ballot form when they have people like you to vote for? I cannot understand!!

Then there's this guy:

Wait... wat? You don't even have an opinion? Who is this guy?

Quote:

Mark Ross
Party
Independent
Standing for
Auckland Mayor
Christchurch City Council - Burwood-Pegasus Community Board
Christchurch City Council - Burwood-Pegasus Ward

Auckland Mayor... Chr.. Ch... wat?

Quote:

Name: Mark Phillip Ross
Age: 27
Star Sign: Gemini
Hometown: Auckland
Current Location: New Brighton Christchurch
Occupation: Courier Driver

Quote:

I urge you to cast your two votes very carefully this year as they could be for the good or harm of Christchurch. I’m your typical working class man (Courier Driver and Former Street Cleaner) that is sick and tired of our council making decisions that should be left to Property Developers and Event Promoters, whilst key services are being ignored.

So your interest in Auckland is... what now?

Quote:

Auckland's Horrendous Traffic Systems, and Crime rates.

Auckland unable to put a tent on a wharf, build a waterfront stadium, hold a street race, run a successful event and to that matter do anything right under the current crop of useless politicians.

Okay, yeah. Everbody knows that Auckland has Horrendous Traffic Systems and you, as a courier driver on the streets of Christchurch, seem like just the man to solve our problems!

What do you want anyway?

Quote:

Change that will ensure Auckland will return to its brand of "The City of Sails" from its current slogan, of The City that Cant.

You're a cant! Actually, you're a moron as well.

Jodi · 4th October 2010, 14:01

Ugh,

It looks like I'll be forming my vote by the process of elimination.

Thanks for pointing out the ones not to vote for CCS.

fixed_truth · 4th October 2010, 17:33

I see Bank's South Auckland bashing has hit him back in the polls.

Lightspeed · 4th October 2010, 17:46

I think it was his stupid bloody idea of begging leftover sandwiches for a meal.

Jodi · 4th October 2010, 21:21

Well, after getting rid of the jokers, the ones without websites, the ones without pictures I was left with banks, brown and prast.

But then prast's comments on P, and his recent use means that even as an outside chance he wont get it.

So that leaves banks and brown.

So that leaves brown.

Now, onto the local council and health boards...

zeekiorage · 4th October 2010, 23:08

Maybe I'm showing my age here but it bothers me that the names on the voting paper are in "Last First" format and the candidate booklet is printed in "First Last". They also switched the sections slightly between the two and printed the candidate statements in .1 font size just for fun.

+1 Len Brown.

BoyWonder · 5th October 2010, 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

health boards...

If you have a name like Aaron Aardvark you will probably get onto the health board. Although some might change it up a bit and give Zoe Zanzibar top billing also.

JP · 5th October 2010, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Well, after getting rid of the jokers, the ones without websites, the ones without pictures I was left with banks, brown and prast.

But then prast's comments on P, and his recent use means that even as an outside chance he wont get it.

So that leaves banks and brown.

So that leaves brown.

Now, onto the local council and health boards...

+1 except I didn't go to half the effort you did. So + 0.5

SID|DensitY · 5th October 2010, 15:49

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/10/tw...raud_case.html

one confirmed to be a labour member.. intereseting..

Lightspeed · 6th October 2010, 23:55

404'd!

SID|DensitY · 7th October 2010, 07:24

yeah the blog post got locked because the people in question were granted name suppression.

24th September 2010, 09:42	#41
CCS Stunt Pants	Be polite you fucking bitches - Ab __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

24th September 2010, 14:26	#44
CCS Stunt Pants	__________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

30th September 2010, 13:43	#60
CCS Stunt Pants	Still, I agree with him that Brown is not up to the job. Transparency but with limits. Contracts for the boys. Acting nutty (bizarre self-flagellation). It all makes me think he is a bit of a lunatic who is not really stable under pressure. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

24th September 2010, 14:11	#42
StN I have detailed files	Ok - what did I miss...

24th September 2010, 14:19	#43
Jodi	Bad CCS, No Biscuit! (what did he do?) I think the general argument for decriminalising any illicit drug is so that its manufacture, distribution and taxation can be controlled by the government. Then they can track the users, manage their health benefits, and do public education. Eventually it becomes socially marginalised so that only a small subsection of society does it. Which is the best you can hope for when dealing with socially unacceptable behaviour in a large democracy. But mainly for the tax revenue.

24th September 2010, 16:30	#46
fixed_truth	I can see the logic of making the misuse of drugs a health problem rather than a justice problem but to me it's seems like a big risk to take with one of the most dangerous drugs out there. Let's see what happens with weed first. Portugal =! New Zealand __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

24th September 2010, 16:33	#47
Noodles Wireless Slacker	Btw, speaking of drugs, wtf is up with this guy? http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/candidates/nga-dave Profile basically says, I'm a truck driver with little education and smokes marijuana. I don't think he's going to get many votes.

24th September 2010, 16:55	#48
adonis	Jodi's argument is one side of it. Here's a highly addictive drug which has the effect of destroying people's lives and, well, making them bat-shit crazy. If people are stupid enough to smoke the stuff in the first place, I doubt the fact that it's illegal and therefore harder to obtain will stop them. Keeping it illegal just throws more gun-powder on the fire. I don't want to give drug addicts more incentive to keep their problems to themselves. I don't want to give them more things to be paranoid about when their brain is already being shot to pieces. I heard a story about a P-addict who threw a baby from a moving car because he was being chased by the cops, when you're dealing with people in that kind of situation the worst thing you can possibly do is back them further into a corner. Another point is that by decrimilising it you effectively eliminate all the organised crime associated with it. Decriminalising drugs and regulating their production/distribution would have a far greater impact on gangs than banning gang patches ever could.

24th September 2010, 19:37	#52
Lightspeed	Sweet, they are online. This candidate is the best I think: http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/.../aileen-austin Or maybe this guy: http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/...ymond-presland I like how he has to remind us that despite all appearances, blood and not sawdust runs in his veins. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

24th September 2010, 19:42	#53
Lightspeed	All the candidates can be found here: http://www.elections2010.co.nz/2010/...auckland-mayor __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

27th September 2010, 15:12	#56
GM	So there was a full page ad put in the Herald today (section A) by family first rating 5 of the candidates using smiley / sad faces in place of 'yes' 'no' 'not sure/maybe' for a selection of family first 'values'. The propaganda dial was up to 11 on this one. The candidate with the most smiley faces in family first eyes was 'piss in the garden' Andrew Williams. Just to put a price on that, a full page ad costs approx $38,000. Simon Prast, unsurprisingly got 0 smiley faces.

27th September 2010, 16:24	#57
madmaxii	Probably a good idea to "vote the opposite" then. __________________ Carpe Diem

27th September 2010, 16:27	#58
crocos	Maybe, or maybe make up your own mind? __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

30th September 2010, 16:10	#62
ZoSo	I thought our candidates were bad but after watching the Wellington clowns on Back Benches, we're not so bad anymore!

4th October 2010, 09:53	#66
PhX	Cant some of these retards a least get a decent photo before they APPLY TO help RUN THE LARGEST CITY IN NZ! __________________ xyf

4th October 2010, 10:28	#67
The Edge	Great pose by Shannon Gillies.

4th October 2010, 10:40	#68
crocos	Nga Dave still makes me LOL. It's like he's looking at you like you're a piece of shit and you've made him mad - are you going to vote for someone that looks at you like that? __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

4th October 2010, 14:01	#71
Jodi	Ugh, It looks like I'll be forming my vote by the process of elimination. Thanks for pointing out the ones not to vote for CCS.

4th October 2010, 17:33	#72
fixed_truth	I see Bank's South Auckland bashing has hit him back in the polls. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

4th October 2010, 17:46	#73
Lightspeed	I think it was his stupid bloody idea of begging leftover sandwiches for a meal. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

4th October 2010, 21:21	#74
Jodi	Well, after getting rid of the jokers, the ones without websites, the ones without pictures I was left with banks, brown and prast. But then prast's comments on P, and his recent use means that even as an outside chance he wont get it. So that leaves banks and brown. So that leaves brown. Now, onto the local council and health boards... __________________ "I distinctly remember leaving my God at home in my room where he won't interfere with my life." -Quan Zee Teng

4th October 2010, 23:08	#75
zeekiorage	Maybe I'm showing my age here but it bothers me that the names on the voting paper are in "Last First" format and the candidate booklet is printed in "First Last". They also switched the sections slightly between the two and printed the candidate statements in .1 font size just for fun. +1 Len Brown. __________________ The surest sign that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. -- Bill Watterson

5th October 2010, 15:49	#78
SID\|DensitY	http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2010/10/tw...raud_case.html one confirmed to be a labour member.. intereseting..

6th October 2010, 23:55	#79
Lightspeed	404'd! __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

7th October 2010, 07:24	#80
SID\|DensitY	yeah the blog post got locked because the people in question were granted name suppression.