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blynk · 2nd June 2021, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed

When was the last time the National party wasn't full of bullies and sex pests?

13th May 1936

StN · 2nd June 2021, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Yeah, true. You yell at me, you're the one who should feel unsafe. Maybe that's what happened? Nick finally came across a staffer who actually wasn't afraid for once, he was caught out?

But it wasn't one of the chaps yelling (at each other) that recorded it and complained. I suspect there is a lot more to this, and even though Dr Reti said he knew nothing of this, it sounds like lines were being drawn post election, and Nick may have expressed an allegiance which was quickly out of favor. And it surfacing now may be untenable. But that's just speculation.

Lightspeed · 2nd June 2021, 15:27

It surely has to be the case, right? If bullies could be called out just for bullying, we wouldn't have the problems with bullying we do in our powerful institutions.

It's easy to talk about standing up to bullies when you've got nothing to lose, like when you're a scrub like me. But an effective bully knows to operate where people have too much to lose.

crocos · 2nd June 2021, 19:38

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Originally Posted by blynk

13th May 1936

It was established on the 14th I'm guessing?

blynk · 3rd June 2021, 11:12

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Originally Posted by crocos

It was established on the 14th I'm guessing?

Yep

Lightspeed · 3rd June 2021, 13:02

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Originally Posted by Ab

If this is a case of “millennial staffer felt unsafe” then ffs.

How do you feel about cunning political manoeuvres?

Nick Smith resignation: Judith Collins says she became aware of inquiry last year

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Smith had said he was advised on Friday that the inquiry and its details were leaked to media and were due to be released the next day.Collins said Smith had had previous conversations with her about him stepping down.

"He had spoken to me last year and said that he didn't think he was going to see out the whole of the term. He certainly was not happy being a list MP, having been 'Nick4Nelson' for 30 years and losing a seat at the election.

"He indicated to me then that he would be going at some stage, and I didn't realise that it would be on Monday."

A Politik article claimed she told Smith last Friday the story would be published this Tuesday in relation to his incident, and also claimed she warned her caucus early last month that media were about to break a scandal involving one of the party's MPs.

In response, Collins said it would not be fair to not let MPs know of any adverse stories in relation to them beforehand, but did not specify what, if anything, she had told her caucus or Smith.

"Whenever I hear of any stories that may be adverse to any of our MPs, I will always let them know. And I'll let them know because I will not allow MPs to go stumbling into a situation where they have no warning."

She said any discussions with her caucus were confidential.

Lightspeed · 3rd June 2021, 16:08

Growing up in South Auckland I found school leadership were very out of touch with the experiences of their students.

I see nothing has changed:

Free lunch debate: Can schools tackle hunger and dependency at the same time?

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Similar arguments appear to inform a decision by Ōtara-based Yendarra School principal Susan Dunlop, following consultation with parents and staff, to decline the chance to join the free Ka Ora, Ka Ako school lunches programme.

A core value of the school was "rather than giving a man a fish, give them a hand up", Dunlop told The Spinoff. "We don't give out things for free as we don't think it does anything for people's mana".

The school has its own lunch initiative. In 2008, it launched a drive urging parents to only provide students with healthy food, alongside a "no fizzy drink" policy instituted a year earlier.

Dunlop said it had proven to be a huge success and as a result, "99.9 percent of parents" opted not to take up the free lunches programme when it was suggested in a survey late last year.

blynk · 3rd June 2021, 17:03

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed

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"99.9 percent of parents"

Hmm. I smell some form of BS there. My assumption is that they have worded it in such a way that people wanted to say no.
Or they have spouted about how bad a look it is to accept something like this/made it a stigma for a child to have a school lunch

Lightspeed · 4th June 2021, 10:22

Does anyone find it odd how consistent the NZ political cycle is?

I'm sure, you take this time during the last cycle: about 1.5 terms for National, National could do nothing wrong, at least of consequences and Labour looked like it was nearly falling apart.

And now... it's just the same with the tables turned.

Am I just imagining this?

Ab · 4th June 2021, 11:48

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rather than giving a man a fish, give them a hand up

A school principal said this

Lightspeed · 4th June 2021, 11:55

There's a reason why I'm easily triggered by stories about schools and teachers.

To be fair, if you're going to teach in a lot of schools in South Auckland, you'll struggle to survive without a certain degree of indifference to suffering.

I had a friend who did a masters in education, quickly fell into depression when she started working in schools. Thought she was doing the right thing starting off in more difficult areas. She retrained as a librarian.

Lightspeed · 5th June 2021, 16:40

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Originally Posted by xor

Waikato dhb, woe to the vanquished

FBI director sees 'parallels' between challenge posed by ransomware attacks and 9/11

It's a kind of cyber-privateerism, but instead of vulnerable ships at sea, it's poorly maintained infrastructure on the net.

Ab · 8th June 2021, 11:36

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Does anyone find it odd how consistent the NZ political cycle is?

I'm sure, you take this time during the last cycle: about 1.5 terms for National, National could do nothing wrong, at least of consequences and Labour looked like it was nearly falling apart.

And now... it's just the same with the tables turned.

Am I just imagining this?

Danylmc in te Spinoff today:

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(W)hatever is going on with National looks a lot like the collapse the Labour Party experienced during its first two terms in opposition. And that, as everyone pointed out at the time, looked a lot like the trauma National experienced during the early years of the Clark government when Bill English led National to a catastrophic defeat.

It feels like there’s something deeper at work here with these repeating opposition meltdowns.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/08...but-the-cabal/

Lightspeed · 8th June 2021, 11:48

Dude obviously reads NZGames.

Ab · 8th June 2021, 11:53

#thoughtleadership

xor · 21st June 2021, 15:24

The prodigal son of piggy muldoon is back for another round.

Lightspeed · 21st June 2021, 15:47

He is a source of the best headlines, no doubt:

"Winston Peters labels National Party a 'bunch of sex maniacs'"

Ab · 21st June 2021, 20:12

Pfft rookie claim. He should have announced “Winston Peters claims National free sex anal stepmother xxx Facebook COVID blockchain”

Lightspeed · 28th June 2021, 17:13

The UK's leadership are a bunch of sleazy cunts:

UK health minister quits after breaking COVID rules by kissing aide

Lightspeed · 29th June 2021, 16:25

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Originally Posted by StN

So has Wizard Spider dropped the clymidia records yet?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...eleased-online

Ab · 30th June 2021, 18:41

this is scary shit

https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcas...=1000526744785

Lightspeed · 1st July 2021, 14:51

Oranga Tamariki to shut Te Oranga facility after leaked video of child assault

This is just typical repeat of the cycle. Anyone involved in the industry knows this is the norm. There'll be a bunch of puffery and nothing will change, until another story pops up.

All the while kids in these facilities will barely notice anything changing. Certainly they won't encounter anyone with the training to understand what any kid goes through growing up, how disruption to the development manifests, effective ways of responding to that disruption.

Lightspeed · 1st July 2021, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Ab

this is scary shit

https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcas...=1000526744785

The information density of podcasts is way too low. I just don't have it in me to listen to people talking slow. I got 12 minutes in.

I took Bernard's advice nearly 20 years ago.

Lightspeed · 1st July 2021, 16:55

Samoa caretaker PM continues to defy Supreme Court

Ab · 1st July 2021, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Lightspeed

The information density of podcasts is way too low. I just don't have it in me to listen to people talking slow.

I hear you. I only got into podcast listening when I started using the Overcast app, with its variable speed and "cut out silence" functions. If you listen to a piece at 1.5% speed and with all the pauses cut out, it flies by

Downside: listening to normal recordings now makes me feel like the person speaking is retarded.

The Edge · 1st July 2021, 19:52

https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/25...tion-was-lost/
^ I believe this is the written form of that same podcast.

Lightspeed · 5th July 2021, 17:27

Fucking hell:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...he_streets_of/

I love the guy recording, he really captures the scene.

Ab · 5th July 2021, 18:56

Maori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi thinks Aotearoa could be the "best nation in the world" - but not necessarily as a democracy.

What has democracy ever done for us anyway

fixed_truth · 5th July 2021, 19:23

Depends on who the 'us' is you're talking about I'd guess.

StN · 5th July 2021, 19:32

The aquaduct?

Lightspeed · 9th July 2021, 15:52

More Bernard Hickey:

The $1 trillion housing wealth crime of the century

Lightspeed · 11th July 2021, 13:36

*sigh*

It's pretty infuriating seeing how easily people get sucked into the gangs are bad narrative someone's working on selling at the moment.

Can't blame the Maoris for our problems any more so let's blame... huh. Hmm.

Ab · 12th July 2021, 12:00

At least the Mongrel Mob have demonstrated that it’s possible for a NZ business to develop a coherent product strategy with vertical integration and strong effective messaging. It’s not like they’re announcing “KiwiMeth” with targets that will never get met.

Ab · 13th July 2021, 14:22

UMR: Seymour second to Ardern in preferred-PM polling

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/unprec...3DRX766MSGITQ/

Lightspeed · 13th July 2021, 15:31

Now even dictionary definitions are being cenz0red!

Ab · 13th July 2021, 16:14

dress for the purges:

https://www.adulthumanfemale.co.nz/

StN · 13th July 2021, 18:04

Ha! Blocked by the patriarchy at work. Or something. No idea why (Adult content????)

fixed_truth · 13th July 2021, 18:20

It's a link to a trans hate group site.

Ab · 13th July 2021, 18:37

maybe they just like dictionaries?

fixed_truth · 13th July 2021, 18:54

Nah, I'd say that as dictionaries continually revise to better reflect how language is used in society then this group won't like them.

2nd June 2021, 15:27	#5283
Lightspeed	It surely has to be the case, right? If bullies could be called out just for bullying, we wouldn't have the problems with bullying we do in our powerful institutions. It's easy to talk about standing up to bullies when you've got nothing to lose, like when you're a scrub like me. But an effective bully knows to operate where people have too much to lose. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

4th June 2021, 10:22	#5289
Lightspeed	Does anyone find it odd how consistent the NZ political cycle is? I'm sure, you take this time during the last cycle: about 1.5 terms for National, National could do nothing wrong, at least of consequences and Labour looked like it was nearly falling apart. And now... it's just the same with the tables turned. Am I just imagining this? __________________ Stay shook. No sook. Last edited by Lightspeed : 4th June 2021 at 10:24.

4th June 2021, 11:55	#5291
Lightspeed	There's a reason why I'm easily triggered by stories about schools and teachers. To be fair, if you're going to teach in a lot of schools in South Auckland, you'll struggle to survive without a certain degree of indifference to suffering. I had a friend who did a masters in education, quickly fell into depression when she started working in schools. Thought she was doing the right thing starting off in more difficult areas. She retrained as a librarian. __________________ Stay shook. No sook. Last edited by Lightspeed : 4th June 2021 at 11:57.

8th June 2021, 11:48	#5294
Lightspeed	Dude obviously reads NZGames. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

8th June 2021, 11:53	#5295
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	#thoughtleadership

21st June 2021, 15:24	#5296
xor	The prodigal son of piggy muldoon is back for another round.

21st June 2021, 15:47	#5297
Lightspeed	He is a source of the best headlines, no doubt: "Winston Peters labels National Party a 'bunch of sex maniacs'" __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

21st June 2021, 20:12	#5298
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Pfft rookie claim. He should have announced “Winston Peters claims National free sex anal stepmother xxx Facebook COVID blockchain”

28th June 2021, 17:13	#5299
Lightspeed	The UK's leadership are a bunch of sleazy cunts: UK health minister quits after breaking COVID rules by kissing aide __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

30th June 2021, 18:41	#5301
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	this is scary shit https://podcasts.apple.com/nz/podcas...=1000526744785

1st July 2021, 14:51	#5302
Lightspeed	Oranga Tamariki to shut Te Oranga facility after leaked video of child assault This is just typical repeat of the cycle. Anyone involved in the industry knows this is the norm. There'll be a bunch of puffery and nothing will change, until another story pops up. All the while kids in these facilities will barely notice anything changing. Certainly they won't encounter anyone with the training to understand what any kid goes through growing up, how disruption to the development manifests, effective ways of responding to that disruption. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

1st July 2021, 16:55	#5304
Lightspeed	Samoa caretaker PM continues to defy Supreme Court __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

1st July 2021, 19:52	#5306
The Edge	https://thespinoff.co.nz/business/25...tion-was-lost/ ^ I believe this is the written form of that same podcast.

5th July 2021, 17:27	#5307
Lightspeed	Fucking hell: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...he_streets_of/ I love the guy recording, he really captures the scene. __________________ Stay shook. No sook. Last edited by Lightspeed : 5th July 2021 at 17:29.

5th July 2021, 18:56	#5308
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Maori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi thinks Aotearoa could be the "best nation in the world" - but not necessarily as a democracy. What has democracy ever done for us anyway

5th July 2021, 19:23	#5309
fixed_truth	Depends on who the 'us' is you're talking about I'd guess. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

5th July 2021, 19:32	#5310
StN I have detailed files	The aquaduct?

9th July 2021, 15:52	#5311
Lightspeed	More Bernard Hickey: The $1 trillion housing wealth crime of the century __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

11th July 2021, 13:36	#5312
Lightspeed	sigh It's pretty infuriating seeing how easily people get sucked into the gangs are bad narrative someone's working on selling at the moment. Can't blame the Maoris for our problems any more so let's blame... huh. Hmm. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

12th July 2021, 12:00	#5313
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	At least the Mongrel Mob have demonstrated that it’s possible for a NZ business to develop a coherent product strategy with vertical integration and strong effective messaging. It’s not like they’re announcing “KiwiMeth” with targets that will never get met.

13th July 2021, 14:22	#5314
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	UMR: Seymour second to Ardern in preferred-PM polling https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/unprec...3DRX766MSGITQ/

13th July 2021, 15:31	#5315
Lightspeed	Now even dictionary definitions are being cenz0red! __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

13th July 2021, 16:14	#5316
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	dress for the purges: https://www.adulthumanfemale.co.nz/

13th July 2021, 18:04	#5317
StN I have detailed files	Ha! Blocked by the patriarchy at work. Or something. No idea why (Adult content????)

13th July 2021, 18:20	#5318
fixed_truth	It's a link to a trans hate group site. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

13th July 2021, 18:37	#5319
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	maybe they just like dictionaries?

13th July 2021, 18:54	#5320
fixed_truth	Nah, I'd say that as dictionaries continually revise to better reflect how language is used in society then this group won't like them. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.