What grinds your gears?

[Cyberbob]

So the outstanding rent issue's been sorted (They counted the weeks since our renewal incorrectly.) But there's still the issue of contractual agreements.

I have a contract with Property Management Company #1. I'm 99% sure nothing in there remotely mentions PMC #2.

Rude introductions aside, PMC #1 confirms from their side that PMC #2 is indeed taking over the management of our apartment, and now funds are to be deposited into PMC #2's bank account, rather than PMC #1's.

Now I'm not exactly going to say "well, OK then!" when I have zero contractual obligations to give PMC #2 a dime, regardless of management movements between companies.

I'm thinking I just push back to PMC #1, telling them that if they want me to do anything other than what my agreement says, they'll need to get it in a contract for me to sign, in addition to voiding any current agreements. Ditto with any obligation to give PMC #2 anything.

[Bent]

Isn't the contract with the landlord and not the PMC?

[Ab]

Stick to your guns Bob. Agents are cunts.

Does the great state of Hipstertoria have a Dept of Fair Trading or similar? Tenancy Commission? Ring and ask.

[aR Que]

tbh, i'm voting for 'don't be a dick.'

[Cyberbob]

Originally Posted by aR Que

tbh, i'm voting for 'don't be a dick.'

So you'd happily start paying thousands a month to someone, with no signed agreement in place as to what you get in return?

And the only agreement you do have in place that contractually binds you to paying someone thousands a month, you'd just ignore?

If you had an issue with your apartment, it got to the point of a dispute, and wanted to take action, and had absolutely no paper work to say either party had any obligations either way, would you be happy with them just saying "don't be a dick"

If you had a mortgage with one bank, and moved to another bank, would you just go on faith alone that the first bank's releasing you of any obligations, and the new bank will live up to any obligations on their end with no paperwork?

[aR Que]

If a landlord, or tenancy agency accepts payment from you, on a regular basis, a tenancy agreement applies, whether, signed, implied or otherwise.

[CCS]

But what of the terms of the agreement, rq? The TERMS.

[Cyberbob]

So when's the tenancy up for renewal?
Should be on the agreement.
What agreement.

The roof needs fixing, and we need the landlord to pay for it. You know, like the agreement says.
What agreement.

We've finished living here, and have left everything that belonged to the landlord when we got here.
Where's the 50" LCD tv, the fridge, the washing machine, and whats with the giant hole in the wall?
Should be covered in the agreement.
What agreement.

You get the picture.

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[crocos]

Originally Posted by aR Que

If a landlord, or tenancy agency accepts payment from you, on a regular basis, a tenancy agreement applies, whether, signed, implied or otherwise.

In NZ, yes. NZ law doesn't apply in Melbourne.

[aR Que]

Sorry, I mistakenly typed AUGames.

[Rince]

own your own property, bob - easy.

[Ab]

Yeah Bob, you got off the plane from NZ and didn't immediately buy a place in one of the world's most expensive cities in which to live, silly you.

[Cyberbob]

Damn, I ticked the wrong box on the immigration form, didn't I.

[ploppy slow]

Now working for recivers on weekly contract ASS NUTS

[chiQ]

A girlfriend's going away drinks this weekend look to be marred by me catching a headcold, critical power of attorney not organised by family member before they went away, and I'm at work despite being sick, because there are a few things I absolutely have to get done. Hopefully I don't pass it on to anyone

[Ab]

Back when I worked in an office with other people, if someone with a desk near mine came in to work sick I just upped and walked out.

[Trigger]

Originally Posted by StN

fking loled

[xor]

Originally Posted by Ab

Back when I worked in an office with other people, if someone with a desk near mine came in to work sick I just upped and walked out.

Yup, absolutely hate sick cunts around the office. Remote access, son. USE IT

[CCS]

It irritates the fuck out of me when Americans pronounce solder as 'sodder'.

[Stalk3r]

Originally Posted by CCS

It irritates the fuck out of me when Americans pronounce solder as 'sodder'.

fuck yes, canadians do it too, makes "How Its Made" unbelievably fucking annoying, which is sad because otherwise its a cool show

[Ab]

See foliage pronounced as foe-ill-idge.

[SPONGER]

So it's Foil-age right?

[TnT]

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

So when's the tenancy up for renewal?
Should be on the agreement.
What agreement.

The roof needs fixing, and we need the landlord to pay for it. You know, like the agreement says.
What agreement.

We've finished living here, and have left everything that belonged to the landlord when we got here.
Where's the 50" LCD tv, the fridge, the washing machine, and whats with the giant hole in the wall?
Should be covered in the agreement.
What agreement.

You get the picture.

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To be honest, once your agreement is up, you move to a 'month by month' basis and the existing conditions of the old agreement still apply, until such time as you sign a new agreement. Unless VIC is *significantly* different to WA. PMC #2 takes over the managment of the property, which includes taking over the existing agreements. You have to sign a different agreement, for the terms of the first agreement to be overwritten or invalidated.

I see where you are coming from, but you're still covered... technically. And I know myself I'm not happy with 'technically' either, I'd prefer, 'actually'

[StN]

Originally Posted by CCS

It irritates the fuck out of me when Americans pronounce solder as 'sodder'.

Yes. But:

solder (ˈsɒldə, US ˈsɒdər)

[p-b]

Originally Posted by Stalk3r

fuck yes, canadians do it too, makes "How Its Made" unbelievably fucking annoying, which is sad because otherwise its a cool show

Last thing you want to be doing is sitting in the hotpools in "Hamner" listening to americans yabbering on!

[CCS]

Originally Posted by StN

Yes. But:

solder (ˈsɒldə, US ˈsɒdər)

So you're telling me an American dictionary says the American pronunciation is sodder?

How do you say it, Stoolie?

[StN]

Originally Posted by p-b

Last thing you want to be doing is sitting in the hotpools in "Hamner" listening to americans yabbering on!

Spergasm suppressed!

Solder has an El. It should be pronounced.

Webster was an upstart.

[CCS]

So what's your fucken point? That you're agreeing with me? You don't need to tell me. I assume everybody agrees with me.

[TnT]

In websters dictionary they don't have definition for cantankerous, just a photo of CCS. It's like you're an bitter 80 year old man trapped in the body of a much younger person.

[CCS]

And you're one of those really stupid people that reads something and gets a completely different interpretation from that which was intended, mostly because you'r
e too dense to pick up on humour when it's right in front of you.

[Ab]

GROUP HUG!

[CCS]

Touch dicks?

[Cyberbob]

Originally Posted by TnT

To be honest, once your agreement is up, you move to a 'month by month' basis and the existing conditions of the old agreement still apply, until such time as you sign a new agreement.

Thing is, PMC #1 agreement isn't over over till December. PMC #2 is moving in half way through the agreement period.

Originally Posted by TnT

Unless VIC is *significantly* different to WA. PMC #2 takes over the managment of the property, which includes taking over the existing agreements. You have to sign a different agreement, for the terms of the first agreement to be overwritten or invalidated.

I see where you are coming from, but you're still covered... technically. And I know myself I'm not happy with 'technically' either, I'd prefer, 'actually'

Nothing (yet) has been invalidated. I'm still contractually bound in some form or another, to give PMC #1 money every month. If I stop living by the obligations of that contract, who's to say what shit they could pull.

I know there's a 1% chance that it could turn sour, but still, that's not a risk I'm willing to take.

[TnT]

Originally Posted by Cyberbob

I know there's a 1% chance that it could turn sour, but still, that's not a risk I'm willing to take.

Like I said, I know where you're coming from 'technically' and 'actually' are not the same thing. Been in a similar situation, and I was the one 'being a dick' with the agents about contracts, I was not comfortable with the whole situation until I'd signed new agreements. It's easy for someone else to say 'just chill winston' until the shit hits the fan and then PMC get all 'well we don't have a contract with you' and shit needs to go to tenancy tribunals and sure you'll win, but to hell with all the screwing around and time off making your living that entails.

[crocos]

Is your contract with the "landlord or agent of", or specifically with the PMC?

If specifically the PMC, then stick to your guns.

[Baal]

Originally Posted by CCS

Touch dicks?

So long as balls don't touch. Then it'd be gay.

[Stalk3r]

its only gay if he stays for breakfast

[TnT]

Originally Posted by CCS

mostly because you'r
e too dense to pick up on humour when it's right in front of you.

[CCS]

I'm not certain if that's a poorly thought out dig at the fact my cellphone casually inserted a line break in the middle of my post, or if you're just demonstrating that you really are as dumb as I think you are.


Perhaps it's both.

[TnT]

Simply pointing out that you're not as funny as you think you are, and your insults are trite and predictable.