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Old 1st February 2014, 11:58     #41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fixed_truth
Another stupid thing we need to update is the national anthem.
Yeah true, but can we wait until Dave Dobbyn dies first?
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Old 4th February 2014, 08:52     #42
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Crikey - looks like someone is distressed by the whole saga.

Taken out of the car window whilst blatting down the coast past the RSA memorial this morning:

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Old 4th February 2014, 08:55     #43
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Another stupid thing we need to update is the national anthem.
Team - Lorde.
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Old 4th February 2014, 14:21     #44
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Well, that would be better.

It doesn't have to be a new song though. I don't mind if it's some old ww1 song our soldiers sang or something . . . as long as it's secular.
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Old 4th February 2014, 15:00     #45
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My preferences for a national anthem:

1. Secular, unlike current
2. Not sound like a funeral lament, unlike current
3. Maori-language component, like current
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Old 4th February 2014, 15:17     #46
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^agree on all counts. Current anthem = cringeworthy.
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Old 4th February 2014, 15:29     #47
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as long as it's secular.
But... but... how will we fight the Red Terror if we aren't referencing God at every opportunity?
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Old 4th February 2014, 15:49     #48
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Originally Posted by Nothing
^agree on all counts. Current anthem = cringeworthy.
I don't know how it sounds so fucking dirgey. It's in a major key, but it still sounds depressing.
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Old 4th February 2014, 16:32     #49
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fuck putting a kiwi on the flag, jesus christ what a rubbish idea madmax. Fern alone with a solid bg, not black.. too sports.
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Old 4th February 2014, 16:48     #50
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Originally Posted by StN
Maybe.

quite like that one
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Old 4th February 2014, 16:53     #51
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Originally Posted by hsh
.. too sports.
Too sports? Uhh, what other reasons are there for having an anthem and flags?
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Old 4th February 2014, 16:55     #52
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Originally Posted by Ab
My preferences for a national anthem:

1. Secular, unlike current
2. Not sound like a funeral lament, unlike current
3. Maori-language component, like current
The Haka seems to tick all these boxes?
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Old 4th February 2014, 17:54     #53
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Yeah but the orchestral arrangement will sound a bit weird
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Old 4th February 2014, 18:08     #54
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quite like that one

That's similar to Labours proposed flag

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Old 4th February 2014, 18:13     #55
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Maybe.

For the win.

Ticks all the boxes and ties in with our sporting teams without being just an All Blacks flag.

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Old 4th February 2014, 18:15     #56
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Rolling eyes

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That's similar to Labours proposed flag

Fail.

Way to shit it up Labour...
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Old 4th February 2014, 18:19     #57
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Originally Posted by Ab
My preferences for a national anthem:

1. Secular, unlike current
2. Not sound like a funeral lament, unlike current
3. Maori-language component, like current
Agreed.

The Maori part should be first of course so the hicks can end on a good volume.

It should be different words too, not just repeating the same verse in Maori.
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Old 4th February 2014, 18:27     #58
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o_O

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth
That's similar to Labours proposed flag

I hope you're joking.
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Old 5th February 2014, 11:16     #59
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Fail.

Way to shit it up Labour...
Indeed, they forgot indigo!
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Old 5th February 2014, 17:58     #60
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For the win.

Ticks all the boxes and ties in with our sporting teams without being just an All Blacks flag.

shouldn't our sporting teams be fitting in with our national identity (a flag... apparently) not our national identity fitting in with our sport?

Oh, right, sorry, RUGBY!
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Old 5th February 2014, 18:22     #61
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shouldn't our sporting teams be fitting in with our national identity (a flag... apparently) not our national identity fitting in with our sport?

Oh, right, sorry, RUGBY!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyathea...ata#In_culture

The silver fern is already an NZ symbol (on the coat of arms for example) so if we were to change I don't see the harm in using it synergistically.
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Old 5th February 2014, 19:07     #62
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Alternatively, we could just stop having a flag altogether.
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Old 5th February 2014, 22:07     #63
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyathea...ata#In_culture

The silver fern is already an NZ symbol (on the coat of arms for example) so if we were to change I don't see the harm in using it synergistically.
Moving forward
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Old 6th February 2014, 08:16     #64
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Old 12th February 2014, 11:16     #65
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Maybe.

I'm happy with the current flag, mainly because all the alternatives I'd seen were shite. But this one ain't half bad....
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Old 12th February 2014, 11:37     #66
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ugg all those flags look shit, just leave it as it is.
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Old 11th March 2014, 12:10     #67
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Key's full speech on the flag review:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11217658
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Old 12th March 2014, 08:35     #68
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Maybe.


'scuse my ignorance, but what's the red represent?
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Old 13th March 2014, 15:34     #69
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The Herald asked people for ideas for a new flag. They were all pretty shit, but this one really stands out for its goatse-ness.

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Old 13th March 2014, 15:57     #70
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'scuse my ignorance, but what's the red represent?
No idea. Token Maori colour? The Reds coming from the North West? Last vestige of the red/white/blue of the Union Jack?
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Old 13th March 2014, 18:19     #71
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Thumbs up

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Old 13th March 2014, 18:33     #72
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Old 13th March 2014, 18:42     #73
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'scuse my ignorance, but what's the red represent?
The percentage area was drawn to shown the share of the vote that the left will get in the upcoming election; myself I'd just have painted the whole thing blue.
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Old 13th March 2014, 18:59     #74
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Old 13th March 2014, 19:03     #75
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With all the LOTR bullocks in NZ these days I'm amazed the flag isnt this...

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Old 15th March 2014, 15:44     #76
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So long as the Union flag comes off I don't care hugely. The relevance of the UK to us is pretty light.

I rather like Tino Rangatiratanga. I'm be into an adapted version of that. Maybe a green and blue one with the white koru through it. It would be way more appropriate than our cute little mutation of the colonialistic* Australian flag.

* Not sure that's a word. Care factor = 0.
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Old 15th March 2014, 18:18     #77
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I agree with the highly esteemed poster above. GTFO Union Jack.

Not sure about the rangi turitikitaane though. Don't dislike it but I'm not sure it's everyone's identity.
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Old 16th March 2014, 08:01     #78
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'scuse my ignorance, but what's the red represent?
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The fern represents the people of New Zealand and the stars represent the location of New Zealand. The blue represents the ocean, the red represents the Māori and wartime sacrifices, and white represents the "land of the long white cloud" epithet.
Shit - I was right.
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Old 19th March 2014, 15:04     #79
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apparently, not that many people actually give a shit.....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/n...ectid=11222086
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Old 19th March 2014, 19:01     #80
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Well that means that here again my view is pretty well aligned with middle NZ.
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