The great combined Smrtphone OS thread - Page 8

PhX · 13th June 2008, 21:15

I started with just an ipod Touch but the hassle of carrying that around with my normal flip cellphone just pissed me off, so iPhone it is, the only thing that kind of pissed me off is that with the iPhone you need to charge the little bugger every other day, with my touch it was about once a week.

PhX · 13th June 2008, 21:19

it is a pain in the arse with no bluetooth file transfer, freggen apple!

chris · 13th June 2008, 21:29

Is it actually confirmed that there is no bluetooth file transfer?
personally I would never use it for file transfer since the only files I would want could easily be sent through iTunes.

dylan · 13th June 2008, 21:35

Hey jodi.

I have an 8gb touch, which I won in a lucky draw thing. I figured I'd want to use it, but long story short, I probably won't much (thought I would be commuting and needing music but then I got a company car).

You're welcome to buy it for $290 if you want.

It's out of the wrapper though and has my music on it, I figure you can just reset these things but who knows, perhaps not.

It's been used for about 4 - 5 hours total.

Flick me an email if you're keen, [email protected]

Noodles · 13th June 2008, 22:36

There's no blue tooth file transfer on the first gen ones, this may change on the 2nd gen. I haven't heard anything about blue tooth being limited on the new ones.

smudge · 14th June 2008, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudge

So a friend spilt water on my 1st gen last night.... "attached device is not compatible". Think it's not recharging. Good think the new ones are coming.

Turns out the phone isnt dead, its the docking station :>

chris · 14th June 2008, 16:17

I'm really hoping the ~$800 price tag for the 16G is close. Wouldn't want it to be much more than that.
The more I use my iPod Touch the more I want it to be a phone as well.
I'm just not looking forward to getting all my contacts off my Nokia and onto my iPhone

nippun · 15th June 2008, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodles

There's no blue tooth file transfer on the first gen ones, this may change on the 2nd gen. I haven't heard anything about blue tooth being limited on the new ones.

I've got bad news for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3g_iphone#Others

Jodi · 16th June 2008, 07:40

Thanks for the input guys, (That note on battery life was eyebrow raising)

I decided to get a iPodTouch. Its the contract cancellation cost/contract cost that put me off the iphone, and the battery life doesn't instill confidence either (even though the gen2 iphone is meant to have better battery life). Lets hope I'm right when the iPhone comes out, or i'll never hear the end of it :-)

Oh, thanks for the offer of your touch dylan, but i've already ordered mine. Maybe someone else on NZGames feels like a touch. *snigger*

Phantom · 16th June 2008, 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caesar

Dam, I was told the iPhone was going to be available on pre pay.
I guess not.

It will be in Aussie - however vodafone's wording on their "sign up for interest" page (here) suggests otherwise:

Quote:

[snip] you can get it on a great On Account plan...

PhX · 16th June 2008, 11:11

UK o2 has prepay too, most likely at the $499 US unsubsidised rate (8gbs).

BaM · 16th June 2008, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom

It will be in Aussie - however vodafone's wording on their "sign up for interest" page (here) suggests otherwise:

I took that to mean "On account users first, prepay maybe later".

Ard Righ · 20th June 2008, 17:04

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4591136a28.html

xin · 20th June 2008, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ard Righ

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4591136a28.html

Thats pretty crap.

smudge · 20th June 2008, 18:13

meh, I think thats reasonable. I could see myself actually using mobile internet at that price.

Lightspeed · 20th June 2008, 18:15

Likewise.

Noodles · 20th June 2008, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by nippun

I've got bad news for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3g_iphone#Others

(Redirected from 3g iphone), it's just the iphone page. Anyway, it's a software thing. Someone will write a piece of software to allow bluetooth to do more.

Markh · 20th June 2008, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by xin

Thats pretty crap.

Well, it's better than it was. It seems to me that the dropping of price from $11.25/MB to 10MB for $1 really shows how much they were ripping everyone off. To suddenly drop the price to under 1% of what it was suggests some absolutely ridiculous margins that have been charged.

xin · 20th June 2008, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markh

Well, it's better than it was. It seems to me that the dropping of price from $11.25/MB to 10MB for $1 really shows how much they were ripping everyone off. To suddenly drop the price to under 1% of what it was suggests some absolutely ridiculous margins that have been charged.

thats still nearly a dollar for cnn.com.

I'm not saying they should be competing with xnet price wise. But $1/MB? The megabyte became trivial years ago.

secretagentman · 20th June 2008, 20:41

ive got a vodafone datacard here in sydney... $40 a month for 5GB... NZ is way behind the ball when it comes to mobile data plans...

gandalf · 20th June 2008, 20:43

Na, that's not a rip-off!

1 sms message = (max of) 160 7-bit characters = 1,120 bits = 140 bytes
1 MB = 1,000,000 bytes (SI units) = 7142 sms messages
1 sms message costs 20 cents
Therefore, sending 1 MB via sms costs $1,428!

Of course if you don't max out your 160 characters (or if you base it on 1024^2 bytes) it's much more expensive.

That's a rip-off.

PhX · 20th June 2008, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandalf

Na, that's not a rip-off!

1 sms message = (max of) 160 7-bit characters = 1,120 bits = 140 bytes
1 MB = 1,000,000 bytes (SI units) = 7142 sms messages
1 sms message costs 20 cents
Therefore, sending 1 MB via sms costs $1,428!

Of course if you don't max out your 160 characters (or if you base it on 1024^2 bytes) it's much more expensive.

That's a rip-off.

Anit that the truth! this however this is a world wide problem.

It is 1 quid a day for unlimited internet on phones in the UK on pay as you go o2, or 7 quid a month flat rate

.

Hazmat · 22nd June 2008, 19:26

Based on Vodafone Italy pricing
http://www.vodafone.com/start/media_...launches1.html

Looks like non-contract 16GB iPhones will be around $1200 NZD at today's exchange rate.

GG Vodafone

BadNova · 22nd June 2008, 19:46

No surprises there.

?>Superman · 22nd June 2008, 21:02

^What he said

chris · 22nd June 2008, 21:07

I'm fine with waiting to see what happens.
Doesn't sound overly ridiculous.
Looks like a great device.

Hazmat · 22nd June 2008, 21:23

I'll be sticking with my N95 and 8GB Nano.
I can in no way justify $1200 for a phone that doesn't do MMS.

Kanz · 23rd June 2008, 00:15

i hope to import one... none of this overpriced, dirty vodafone branding...

smudge · 23rd June 2008, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazmat

I'll be sticking with my N95 and 8GB Nano.
I can in no way justify $1200 for a phone that doesn't do MMS.

SwirlyMMS has been in installer for 5 months or so.

BaM · 23rd June 2008, 10:47

Vodafone still have the original N95 listed as $999, so I don't see what the big deal is. $1200 for brand new 16GB iPhone sounds about right. Also, who would want to buy one out of contract anyway? Which other NZ GSM provider are you going to take it to?

crocos · 23rd June 2008, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaM

Which other NZ GSM provider are you going to take it to?

Telecom when they kick over to GSM. Which they have said they will need to do.

BaM · 23rd June 2008, 13:20

This is assuming they will have the back end stuff for the voicemail, etc, to work properly.

Hazmat · 23rd June 2008, 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaM

...Also, who would want to buy one out of contract anyway? ..

Someone purchasing the iPhone as a gift for someone on pre-paid (or overseas for that matter). Anyone who doesn't want to move from pre-paid. Someone planning on moving overseas in the next 2 years..the list goes on.

At the rate Vodafone's services have been steadily declining (MMS being out for hours at a time the past couple of weeks), I really can't guarantee I'll be a customer of theirs this time next year.
If the 3G network can't load the Live! homepage currently without timing out 7 times out of 10, then I have little faith it'll be able to cope with the iPhone launch and inevitable traffic.

crocos · 23rd June 2008, 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaM

This is assuming they will have the back end stuff for the voicemail, etc, to work properly.

Oh yeah, fully expecting problems out the wahzoo.

Hazmat · 23rd June 2008, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaM

This is assuming they will have the back end stuff for the voicemail, etc, to work properly.

I assume you're talking about Visual Voicemail?
Vodafone won't even have that at launch.

nippun · 23rd June 2008, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaM

Vodafone still have the original N95 listed as $999, so I don't see what the big deal is. $1200 for brand new 16GB iPhone sounds about right. Also, who would want to buy one out of contract anyway? Which other NZ GSM provider are you going to take it to?

http://nzcellsites.wordpress.com/200...grade-to-umts/

Whenever that's ready

chris · 23rd June 2008, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaM

Vodafone still have the original N95 listed as $999, so I don't see what the big deal is. $1200 for brand new 16GB iPhone sounds about right. Also, who would want to buy one out of contract anyway? Which other NZ GSM provider are you going to take it to?

I agree about the price vs N95.
But in regards to the comment about "who would want to buy one out of contract" That would be me & probably you too.
Yeah, I'm on a 24 month contract that my work pays for but VF only give you "Contract prices" on phones when you are signing up to a new contract OR re-signing your current contract at the end of your term. All other times you have to pay standard retail full price for phones. And I'm nearly 100% sure that will be the case with the iPhone.

BaM · 23rd June 2008, 17:16

I don't have a current contract, but I'll definitely get into one to drop the price of the phone. I don't have any plans to change providers any time soon.

Juju · 23rd June 2008, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris

All other times you have to pay standard retail full price for phones.

Or you could cancel your current contract at the cost of the termination fee (If that is economically viable though, obviously).

chris · 23rd June 2008, 21:31

Sometimes (like in my case) changing number just isn't worth it, and as far as I know, if you just terminate like that you don't get to keep your current number?

13th June 2008, 21:15	#281
PhX	I started with just an ipod Touch but the hassle of carrying that around with my normal flip cellphone just pissed me off, so iPhone it is, the only thing that kind of pissed me off is that with the iPhone you need to charge the little bugger every other day, with my touch it was about once a week.

13th June 2008, 21:19	#282
PhX	it is a pain in the arse with no bluetooth file transfer, freggen apple!

13th June 2008, 21:29	#283
chris	Is it actually confirmed that there is no bluetooth file transfer? personally I would never use it for file transfer since the only files I would want could easily be sent through iTunes.

13th June 2008, 21:35	#284
dylan Huh?	Hey jodi. I have an 8gb touch, which I won in a lucky draw thing. I figured I'd want to use it, but long story short, I probably won't much (thought I would be commuting and needing music but then I got a company car). You're welcome to buy it for $290 if you want. It's out of the wrapper though and has my music on it, I figure you can just reset these things but who knows, perhaps not. It's been used for about 4 - 5 hours total. Flick me an email if you're keen, [email protected]

13th June 2008, 22:36	#285
Noodles Wireless Slacker	There's no blue tooth file transfer on the first gen ones, this may change on the 2nd gen. I haven't heard anything about blue tooth being limited on the new ones.

14th June 2008, 16:17	#287
chris	I'm really hoping the ~$800 price tag for the 16G is close. Wouldn't want it to be much more than that. The more I use my iPod Touch the more I want it to be a phone as well. I'm just not looking forward to getting all my contacts off my Nokia and onto my iPhone

16th June 2008, 07:40	#289
Jodi	Thanks for the input guys, (That note on battery life was eyebrow raising) I decided to get a iPodTouch. Its the contract cancellation cost/contract cost that put me off the iphone, and the battery life doesn't instill confidence either (even though the gen2 iphone is meant to have better battery life). Lets hope I'm right when the iPhone comes out, or i'll never hear the end of it :-) Oh, thanks for the offer of your touch dylan, but i've already ordered mine. Maybe someone else on NZGames feels like a touch. snigger __________________ "I distinctly remember leaving my God at home in my room where he won't interfere with my life." -Quan Zee Teng

16th June 2008, 11:11	#291
PhX	UK o2 has prepay too, most likely at the $499 US unsubsidised rate (8gbs).

20th June 2008, 17:04	#293
Ard Righ	http://www.stuff.co.nz/4591136a28.html

20th June 2008, 18:13	#295
smudge Ich Bin Ein Grey Lynner	meh, I think thats reasonable. I could see myself actually using mobile internet at that price.

20th June 2008, 18:15	#296
Lightspeed	Likewise. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

20th June 2008, 20:41	#300
secretagentman	ive got a vodafone datacard here in sydney... $40 a month for 5GB... NZ is way behind the ball when it comes to mobile data plans... __________________ .

20th June 2008, 20:43	#301
gandalf	Na, that's not a rip-off! 1 sms message = (max of) 160 7-bit characters = 1,120 bits = 140 bytes 1 MB = 1,000,000 bytes (SI units) = 7142 sms messages 1 sms message costs 20 cents Therefore, sending 1 MB via sms costs $1,428! Of course if you don't max out your 160 characters (or if you base it on 1024^2 bytes) it's much more expensive. That's a rip-off.

22nd June 2008, 19:26	#303
Hazmat I Like Toast	Based on Vodafone Italy pricing http://www.vodafone.com/start/media_...launches1.html Looks like non-contract 16GB iPhones will be around $1200 NZD at today's exchange rate. GG Vodafone

22nd June 2008, 21:07	#306
chris	I'm fine with waiting to see what happens. Doesn't sound overly ridiculous. Looks like a great device.

22nd June 2008, 21:23	#307
Hazmat I Like Toast	I'll be sticking with my N95 and 8GB Nano. I can in no way justify $1200 for a phone that doesn't do MMS.

23rd June 2008, 00:15	#308
Kanz	i hope to import one... none of this overpriced, dirty vodafone branding...

23rd June 2008, 10:47	#310
BaM Freeloader	Vodafone still have the original N95 listed as $999, so I don't see what the big deal is. $1200 for brand new 16GB iPhone sounds about right. Also, who would want to buy one out of contract anyway? Which other NZ GSM provider are you going to take it to?

23rd June 2008, 13:20	#312
BaM Freeloader	This is assuming they will have the back end stuff for the voicemail, etc, to work properly.

23rd June 2008, 17:16	#318
BaM Freeloader	I don't have a current contract, but I'll definitely get into one to drop the price of the phone. I don't have any plans to change providers any time soon.

23rd June 2008, 21:31	#320
chris	Sometimes (like in my case) changing number just isn't worth it, and as far as I know, if you just terminate like that you don't get to keep your current number? Last edited by chris : 23rd June 2008 at 21:33.