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5th September 2008, 21:13 | #41 |
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National Policy for 2008 http://www.national.org.nz/PolicyAreas.aspx
Labour Policy for 2008.... err 2005 http://labour.org.nz/policy.html |
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5th September 2008, 23:16 | #46 |
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It will be good when ipredict.co.nz is open to the public.
Evil labour are currently going for 28 cents a share, and National for 69 cents a share; paying $1 for the win. A bit of arbitrage opportunity there at the moment I suppose. |
6th September 2008, 01:28 | #47 |
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The main problem I have with the Greens is that some of them are Luddites in disguise. Dihydrogen oxide is not a pollutant, you fruits.
I know I'm not voting Labour or NZF (i'm not ruling out Greens at this point), but I will do more policy and leadership research before deciding my vote. |
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6th September 2008, 13:59 | #51 | |
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Now that's honest transparent government for you. "Want to know our policies? Download the 2008 Budget and start reading, citizen! It's only 1000 pages..." |
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6th September 2008, 14:33 | #52 |
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Am I the only one who appreciated some aesthetic value from National's billboards? The text messages are atrocious, but the graphics design is good. The planes and crosses are simple and easily identifiable with issues, with the classic National blue motif.
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6th September 2008, 14:40 | #53 | |
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www.intrade.com has a New Zealand politics section but it doesn't look used. |
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6th September 2008, 15:54 | #54 | |
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...or you could read up on Labour's 2008 budget policy on the Labour party's 2008 budget webpage instead
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6th September 2008, 15:59 | #55 | |
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6th September 2008, 16:45 | #56 | |
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Also, predicition markets work when there's not real money at stake; but a moot point here since we are talking real money. [edit] oppps, wrong site. Last edited by Golden Teapot : 6th September 2008 at 16:47. |
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6th September 2008, 16:55 | #57 |
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The interesting thing about prediction markets is just how well they do work.
They are quite commonly used internally by corporates. Often play money has to be used to avoid the local equivalent of securities commission approval. Supply of play money has to be restricted (obviously). Under this paradigm prizes are given for those who do best. If some Labour lunatics want to put some hard cash where their mouths are then they can head over to www.intrade.com and get the market going. |
6th September 2008, 21:13 | #58 |
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i guess if people want to bet on the nz elections, theyre most likely to do it via an aussie site such as centrebet.com or sportingbet.com.au.
but even in a gambling nation such as NZ, i think 99.9% of people would rather gamble on something a bit more fun....eg OZ vs AB
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6th September 2008, 21:51 | #59 |
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In my view, National have a major advantage running into this election.
Take Brash. He was very much an underdog when he took power, they were polling so poorly it wasn't funny and in most polls (in my memory) in the year leading up to the election, he was behind Labour and had to close the gap through speeches like Orewa. This time, they're front running and they've done it without releasing too much policy to the public. If Key can handle his idiotic fucking seniors like Bill English from running their mouth about secret intentions, then he's a shoe in. Why? The only real complaint people have is that they haven't released policy. Yet without releasing policy, they're still leading by 6.5%. They can now offer boons to the public through creative policy while Labour are having to throw all their policy boons and law reforms out now to try and catch back up in the polls. When the election date is set, look for Key to be inspired and proactive. Look for Helen to be shop worn and reactive. I just hope the public at large realises another 4 years of Helen would cause major issues with those who are hanging around to see the results of this election before deciding whether or not to commit to NZ. |
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7th September 2008, 01:43 | #62 | |
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Well National lost my vote when they decided they wanted to borrow and put the country into more debt, also when they decided to sell Kiwibank and to charge $50 a week in road tolls. lol |
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Should everyone help pay for an asset they will use? Tick - that is what National is saying. Should people who cause duplicate, and / or new motorways to need to be built have to pay a little bit more to use them than everyone else? Tick - that is what National is saying. Should the governement run a chain of DVD Rental shops? Of course not. Yet, if "DVD Rental" is swapped for "Money" then some people change their answer. Why? Well, there's no reason supported by cognitive function. Apprently food is getting expensive, and so next you'll be suggesting that the Governement nationalise foodtown? |
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This is why they were apposed to Labour buying back rail, because national doesn't want efficent public owned transport, they want to continue to build infrastructure that limits consumer choice, People will use public transport when it is reliable and the infrastructure is in place to support it, but National want to address conjestion with new roads administrated by private interests, |
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7th September 2008, 11:34 | #68 |
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Fuck's sake. Let me sum it up.
Rich people will vote National. They will say it's because National is better for the country, but it is because National is better for their own personal finances. Poor people will vote Labour. They will say it's because Labour is better for the country, but it is because Labour is better for their own personal finances. The election will be determined purely on how many people the political parties confuse from the "other side".
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7th September 2008, 11:47 | #69 |
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If you're waiting for a government (any government) to pull you out of poverty then I have some news for you and it's all bad.
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7th September 2008, 15:06 | #71 |
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I'm not registered to vote and I don't ever plan on registering.
Who else is in the same boat? (I know at least 10 people, most of them older than I) |
7th September 2008, 15:22 | #72 |
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Why won't you vote? Also, isn't it illegal to not be registered to vote?
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7th September 2008, 17:32 | #73 |
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Yes you are required to be on the roll. You don't have to vote.
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7th September 2008, 18:26 | #74 |
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Gonna nark on Helious
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I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner? |
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I would rather not leave welfare in the hands of those people who's survival instinct is so misguided to the point of indulgence, that they would pretend not to see people struggling - all for a tax break. When it comes to the majority of welfare, I believe it is best left to the state. |
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8th September 2008, 11:48 | #77 | |
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8th September 2008, 13:32 | #79 |
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Can someone explain to me why Nationals lifetime policy of selling SOE's is so?
What advantage does it give the country by selling them apart from a cash injection at the time of sale? I've always been a Nat supported, but when everyone bitches to me about why I would support a party that sells state assets at every opportunity, I don't have much to say because I don't really know what the (supposed) advantages are? |
8th September 2008, 13:37 | #80 |
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haha, National are a bunch of jokers and are proving it with this election runup. I'm not that impressed with Labour but they'll still get my electorate vote over National. Party vote for Greens.
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