Donald Trump thus far - Page 12

Ab · 19th September 2018, 14:51

In years to come we'll find out that Qanon was the ARG component of a marketing campaign for a video game.

Lightspeed · 19th September 2018, 14:57

Ab · 27th September 2018, 16:10

Nich · 27th September 2018, 19:31

What a rambling, unfiltered mess. Awesome. The press love that they get this kind of direct access and dialog with the President. The next presidential candidates will have a hard time if they try to convince people it is best to lead from behind a filter of PR, social media, and eloquent platitudes in place of raw thought.

Unfortunately, a president usually only gets their "fuck you" money AFTER they have been president and AFTER it matters when they receive their book deals, and get paid $500,000 to just turn up.

Equally unfortunately, some people get their "fuck you" money AFTER their brain has turned to mush.

[Malks] Pixie · 27th September 2018, 19:53

Nobody gets to be president until well after they've gotten their "fuck you" money (which is a great Talebism).

Nich · 27th September 2018, 21:43

I am onto Anti-fragile now

I learned that I am Robust, and far from Anti-fragile. But at least I'm not fragile.

I get you're point that you do have to be filthy rich to attend Bohemian Grove and do all that Eyes Wide Shut stuff before you announce you're running for President...However, if it's money from campaign donations, big pharma, and lobbyists, then it's not true "fuck you" money. There's a debt that gets repaid in policy, war, tax relief, or whatever.

DrTiTus · 27th September 2018, 22:00

I Got Cash

crocos · 28th September 2018, 09:46

Hah, awesome.

DrTiTus · 6th October 2018, 09:20

Looks like Kavanaugh is going to be a yes!

51-49 to advance the vote to a final vote.

Nich · 6th October 2018, 12:12

huh! I'm going to have to rethink my "believe all victims" stance on the back of this one!

Lightspeed · 6th October 2018, 13:05

The Republicans have got to get slaughtered over this in the midterms. Otherwise it's going to really start feeling like I'm watching the Brown Shirts rise to power.

Nich · 6th October 2018, 13:53

Unfortunately the backlash is from something he’s accused of, not something he is guilty of.

The Dems didn’t want to make the public whoo-hah about Kavanaugh’s record on “advanced interrogation” or perjury because when it’s their guy in power those things are good for business.

Better to go for the slam dunk, career-ending move du jour. Ask no questions, just rage.

Lightspeed · 6th October 2018, 14:01

It's also how he's responding to the accusations and how that reflects his suitability or lack thereof for such a significant position in the future of the US.

Ab · 7th October 2018, 03:04

The way he responded is what clinched him the gig. See:

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talki...naughs-victory

Cyberbob · 8th October 2018, 09:33

I think that's a red herring.

The closer for that article wants to nail the point home.

Quote:

Early Thursday afternoon, Kavanaugh nomination was on life support. He went full Trump. And it worked.

His nomination was never on life support in the eyes of those that had the power to vote him in.
Was it on life support as far as the public is concerned? Absolutely. Did it matter? No.

Current split of the senate: Republicans control 51 seats and Democrats have 49 (including two independents who caucus with Democrats).

Vote tally: 50-48 in favor.

Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska announced that she would have voted no, but withdrew her vote as a courtesy to Senator Steve Daines of Montana. Mr. Daines, who would have voted yes, was attending his daughter’s wedding.
Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia was the only Democrat to vote yes. He's up for reelection in a red state.

Every voting Republican voted yes.
Every voting Democrat other than one, voted no.

His nomination was never on life support because everyone there had already made up their minds, and it was entirely political.

Ab · 9th October 2018, 11:45

Praise gawdah!

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/8/179410...an-nationalism

Lightspeed · 9th October 2018, 13:47

Religion, racism and nationalism. The triple threat.

I suspect it's a brittle alloy however, despite its apparent strength right now.

Ab · 9th October 2018, 14:00

Not now that Trump got Kavanaugh on the SC. That's locked in big business funding of politics and Christian conservative constitutional interpretations for a generation.

Lightspeed · 9th October 2018, 14:39

Well there's that. But there's also a country to hold together. Where can this shit show go from here?

Ab · 9th October 2018, 14:58

The rich and powerful want to stay rich and powerful while everyone else deals with the country not holding together.

Nich · 9th October 2018, 15:23

or Mr Robot realised as a full-immersion, global Improv Everywhere prank. I'm just waiting for everyone to break character and say "Gotcha!"

blynk · 9th October 2018, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Well there's that. But there's also a country to hold together. Where can this shit show go from here?

With the SC, the shit show is just beginning.

Less personal rights for peoples lifestyle (abortion, LBGT rights, marijuana)
More rights for gun owners.

AB has it right, they are basically screwed for a generation.

Nich · 10th October 2018, 17:48

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-midterms.html

Clintons have agreed that everything they touch turns to shit, they will not be heading up any campaigns for the mid-term elections. With this move, the Democrats might actually get some votes! ... that is if their campaign involves more than telling voters they are stupid dumb fucks if they vote for the other team.

But once the elections are over, the speaking tours will resume at $750 per head. You gotta pay to be played.

Ab · 15th October 2018, 16:57

Hillary checks in with a hot take in the year of #MeToo just in time for the mid-terms

thanks Hillz, you're the best

Cyberbob · 15th October 2018, 17:26

Trump doesn’t care if Kavanaugh’s accuser is telling the truth

Just in case you thought things had changed.

DrTiTus · 15th October 2018, 17:36

HRC gave up her security clearance, along with five of her "researcher" buddies

If you know you're going to be fired, it's best to resign. If you know you're going to have your clearance removed, it's best to give it up voluntarily?

Rich and powerful becoming less powerful? Soon I expect they won't be as rich either.

The Edge · 3rd November 2018, 09:58

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/03...esident-trump/

Any predictions for the midterms next week?

Deadmeat · 4th November 2018, 10:36

Dems picking up 30+ seats in house
Rs keep senate barely

Quote:

If you know you're going to be fired, it's best to resign. If you know you're going to have your clearance removed, it's best to give it up voluntarily?

There's that, also if you give it up then you can't be accused of being a leaker.

BoyWonder · 4th November 2018, 13:31

This is America. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was R / R. #MAGA

Ab · 7th November 2018, 14:15

Never underestimate the power of the Democratic party to fuck things up.

pxpx · 7th November 2018, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyWonder

This is America. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was R / R. #MAGA

Cyberbob · 7th November 2018, 15:13

Deadmeat's predictions seem pretty bang on. Early days, but we've got Senate at 56% red, Senate at 76% blue right now.

blynk · 7th November 2018, 22:18

Well one out of 2 is better than nothing.

But I worry that the Rep still hold the senate and can start getting their choice for lifelong jobs.

The next 2 years are just going to be shit.
We voted to do this, but the senate said no
Trump wanted to do this, but the house said no

Lightspeed · 8th November 2018, 01:22

Democrats gained seven governors, which will help out come 2020.

Ab · 8th November 2018, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by blynk

Well one out of 2 is better than nothing.

But I worry that the Rep still hold the senate and can start getting their choice for lifelong jobs.

The next 2 years are just going to be shit.
We voted to do this, but the senate said no
Trump wanted to do this, but the house said no

Best possible outcome IMHO.

Cyberbob · 8th November 2018, 09:48

I'm hoping a blue led house will lead to some accountability and investigations, but that might be hoping for too much.

Ab · 8th November 2018, 13:24

They can initiate investigations, the Senate can bury them.

Meh.

I was trying to work out why the Democrats taking back the house felt like such a disappointment, and Ed at Ginandtacos summed it up. The fact that the midterms were even close reveals that half of the American electorate has taken a look at the past 2 years and decided that that's the way they like it. Trump getting elected was a glitch, a one-in-a-million perfect storm. But these election results show how America really is, and that means America is 50% white-supremacist misogynist arseholes.

Lightspeed · 8th November 2018, 17:22

Trump didn't mess around with firing Sessions. The very second the midterms were out of the picture.

Ab · 8th November 2018, 18:05

Quote:

At your request, I am submitting my resignation

Trump is such a coward when it comes to actually firing people.

Ab · 9th November 2018, 12:04

It gets crazier

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog...tack-on-acosta

27th September 2018, 16:10	#443
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	what the actual fuck

27th September 2018, 22:00	#447
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	I Got Cash __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

6th October 2018, 09:20	#449
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	Looks like Kavanaugh is going to be a yes! 51-49 to advance the vote to a final vote. __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

15th October 2018, 17:36	#466
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	HRC gave up her security clearance, along with five of her "researcher" buddies If you know you're going to be fired, it's best to resign. If you know you're going to have your clearance removed, it's best to give it up voluntarily? Rich and powerful becoming less powerful? Soon I expect they won't be as rich either. __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

19th September 2018, 14:51	#441
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	In years to come we'll find out that Qanon was the ARG component of a marketing campaign for a video game.

19th September 2018, 14:57	#442
Lightspeed	lol __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

27th September 2018, 19:31	#444
Nich	What a rambling, unfiltered mess. Awesome. The press love that they get this kind of direct access and dialog with the President. The next presidential candidates will have a hard time if they try to convince people it is best to lead from behind a filter of PR, social media, and eloquent platitudes in place of raw thought. Unfortunately, a president usually only gets their "fuck you" money AFTER they have been president and AFTER it matters when they receive their book deals, and get paid $500,000 to just turn up. Equally unfortunately, some people get their "fuck you" money AFTER their brain has turned to mush.

27th September 2018, 19:53	#445
[Malks] Pixie	Nobody gets to be president until well after they've gotten their "fuck you" money (which is a great Talebism). __________________ Civilised is as civilised does and civilised people walk among us.

27th September 2018, 21:43	#446
Nich	I am onto Anti-fragile now I learned that I am Robust, and far from Anti-fragile. But at least I'm not fragile. I get you're point that you do have to be filthy rich to attend Bohemian Grove and do all that Eyes Wide Shut stuff before you announce you're running for President...However, if it's money from campaign donations, big pharma, and lobbyists, then it's not true "fuck you" money. There's a debt that gets repaid in policy, war, tax relief, or whatever.

28th September 2018, 09:46	#448
crocos	Hah, awesome. __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

6th October 2018, 12:12	#450
Nich	huh! I'm going to have to rethink my "believe all victims" stance on the back of this one!

6th October 2018, 13:05	#451
Lightspeed	The Republicans have got to get slaughtered over this in the midterms. Otherwise it's going to really start feeling like I'm watching the Brown Shirts rise to power. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

6th October 2018, 13:53	#452
Nich	Unfortunately the backlash is from something he’s accused of, not something he is guilty of. The Dems didn’t want to make the public whoo-hah about Kavanaugh’s record on “advanced interrogation” or perjury because when it’s their guy in power those things are good for business. Better to go for the slam dunk, career-ending move du jour. Ask no questions, just rage.

6th October 2018, 14:01	#453
Lightspeed	It's also how he's responding to the accusations and how that reflects his suitability or lack thereof for such a significant position in the future of the US. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

7th October 2018, 03:04	#454
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	The way he responded is what clinched him the gig. See: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talki...naughs-victory

9th October 2018, 11:45	#456
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Praise gawdah! https://www.vox.com/2018/10/8/179410...an-nationalism

9th October 2018, 13:47	#457
Lightspeed	Religion, racism and nationalism. The triple threat. I suspect it's a brittle alloy however, despite its apparent strength right now. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

9th October 2018, 14:00	#458
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Not now that Trump got Kavanaugh on the SC. That's locked in big business funding of politics and Christian conservative constitutional interpretations for a generation.

9th October 2018, 14:39	#459
Lightspeed	Well there's that. But there's also a country to hold together. Where can this shit show go from here? __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

9th October 2018, 14:58	#460
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	The rich and powerful want to stay rich and powerful while everyone else deals with the country not holding together.

9th October 2018, 15:23	#461
Nich	or Mr Robot realised as a full-immersion, global Improv Everywhere prank. I'm just waiting for everyone to break character and say "Gotcha!"

10th October 2018, 17:48	#463
Nich	http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...-midterms.html Clintons have agreed that everything they touch turns to shit, they will not be heading up any campaigns for the mid-term elections. With this move, the Democrats might actually get some votes! ... that is if their campaign involves more than telling voters they are stupid dumb fucks if they vote for the other team. But once the elections are over, the speaking tours will resume at $750 per head. You gotta pay to be played. Last edited by Nich : 10th October 2018 at 17:49.

15th October 2018, 16:57	#464
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Hillary checks in with a hot take in the year of #MeToo just in time for the mid-terms thanks Hillz, you're the best

15th October 2018, 17:26	#465
Cyberbob	Trump doesn’t care if Kavanaugh’s accuser is telling the truth Just in case you thought things had changed. __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

3rd November 2018, 09:58	#467
The Edge	https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/03...esident-trump/ Any predictions for the midterms next week?

4th November 2018, 13:31	#469
BoyWonder	This is America. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was R / R. #MAGA

7th November 2018, 14:15	#470
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Never underestimate the power of the Democratic party to fuck things up.

7th November 2018, 15:13	#472
Cyberbob	Deadmeat's predictions seem pretty bang on. Early days, but we've got Senate at 56% red, Senate at 76% blue right now. __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

7th November 2018, 22:18	#473
blynk	Well one out of 2 is better than nothing. But I worry that the Rep still hold the senate and can start getting their choice for lifelong jobs. The next 2 years are just going to be shit. We voted to do this, but the senate said no Trump wanted to do this, but the house said no

8th November 2018, 01:22	#474
Lightspeed	Democrats gained seven governors, which will help out come 2020. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

8th November 2018, 09:48	#476
Cyberbob	I'm hoping a blue led house will lead to some accountability and investigations, but that might be hoping for too much. __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ

8th November 2018, 13:24	#477
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	They can initiate investigations, the Senate can bury them. Meh. I was trying to work out why the Democrats taking back the house felt like such a disappointment, and Ed at Ginandtacos summed it up. The fact that the midterms were even close reveals that half of the American electorate has taken a look at the past 2 years and decided that that's the way they like it. Trump getting elected was a glitch, a one-in-a-million perfect storm. But these election results show how America really is, and that means America is 50% white-supremacist misogynist arseholes.

8th November 2018, 17:22	#478
Lightspeed	Trump didn't mess around with firing Sessions. The very second the midterms were out of the picture. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

9th November 2018, 12:04	#480
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	It gets crazier https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog...tack-on-acosta