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11th February 2011, 19:33 | #162 | |
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And, it's a good book too - I'd be inclined to suggest everyone read it. |
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11th February 2011, 21:23 | #163 |
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I don't care if he's intelekchullie corrupt or not.
I just get sick of the "ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!" style of "arguing" that happens. It's just attention-seeking - the argument is just a vehicle for attracting attention. However Lightspeed isn't the only one guilty of that self-indulgent vice, just one of the most obvious.
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12th February 2011, 11:20 | #164 | |
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My general rule is I pay little heed to feedback from people who can't give me both positive and critical feedback. I still pay attention, but I balance the feedback against those who appear to know how to tell me what's what. Besides, I think CCS has clearly demonstrated what intellectual dishonesty actually is, but gets away with it. As I earlier pointed out, "some think" becomes "everyone knows". I suggest he "invokes", he reflects that back as "forces". Surely this is intellectual dishonesty? I'm not sure how I can change to fit into the group culture when the rules of the group appear to me as completely arbitrary.
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12th February 2011, 13:50 | #165 |
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So, quod erat demonstrandum by your own hand.
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12th February 2011, 13:59 | #166 | |
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Yawn. Not everyone lives to kiss your ass, lolspeed. It's hard to give any positive feedback when you behave as though the general rules of argumentation doesn't apply to you. That becomes even harder when you consistently feign not making accusations/assertions by expressing such things as rhetorical questions without ever intending to defend or offer proof as to your underlying points. |
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12th February 2011, 14:36 | #167 |
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See, I can take that feedback, because it's quite specific rather than a term that's typically used in a derogatory tone.
You're right, I do use questions and it's often pretty lame. As such, I try not to use it in genuine discussion. Sometimes I fail. But feedback outside the forum from NZGamers tells me I'm getting better. However, when it comes to assholes like CCS who blatantly warp people's arguments (I'll point again to using absolutes) and are generally vitriolic, what the fuck does it matter what argumentative style one uses? It's just a pissing contest anyways.
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12th February 2011, 21:20 | #168 |
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Well, Lightspeed, you can take my view that you are intellectually dishonest as a considered and genuine one.
I've done it, noticed it, and fixed it. Life got better. Please at least consider it as a possibility and try to avoid it. |
12th February 2011, 23:39 | #169 |
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What, lightspeed isn't just a mega troll? Mind boggled!
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13th February 2011, 08:56 | #170 | |
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13th February 2011, 10:34 | #171 |
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4th March 2011, 10:12 | #172 |
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WTH. Respect just went up for Hillary. Tis so true. AJE is like the old BBC/CNN.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_830890.html |
4th March 2011, 15:30 | #173 |
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lol @ the 'AJE sux it doen't even report on Charlie Sheen' comments.
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5th March 2011, 20:02 | #174 | |
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5th March 2011, 23:09 | #175 |
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10710379
Oh yay, so we have a young career politician in parliament. What's his guy ever done other than chasing seats in the local body elections? |
5th March 2011, 23:45 | #176 |
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Pansy Wong was much hotter, but even she is no Melissa Lee!
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9th March 2011, 21:30 | #177 |
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By the virtue of being female is not a high hurdle to pass.
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12th March 2011, 11:34 | #178 |
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Look what Judith Collins said now. Whoops I meant Phil Goff.
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...ooters-a-joke/
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15th March 2011, 23:42 | #179 | |
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16th March 2011, 01:16 | #180 |
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LOOK I FUCKING SAID I WAS SORRY ALRIGHT? Fuck.
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16th March 2011, 13:03 | #182 |
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Hmm, I feel like I'm repeating myself, but I don't want to vote for any of the parties as they piss me off one way or another.
I think I'll vote for whoever gets the central rail loop for Auckland happening, and then complain about everything else they do (which will be stupid). |
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16th March 2011, 23:43 | #185 |
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18th March 2011, 00:02 | #186 | |
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20th March 2011, 03:47 | #187 | |
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20th March 2011, 14:01 | #188 | ||
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10713496 Oh, I see. Thanks . . . Labour Quote:
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20th March 2011, 14:34 | #189 |
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Fair enough.
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20th March 2011, 15:20 | #190 |
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It does make sense really... otherwise you could have a situation where you could legally deport parents but not children.
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20th March 2011, 15:40 | #191 |
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Or foreigners visiting purely to have kids born here and get free medical care for them.
Edit: If you have a problem with that policy, why not start a collection to pay for those medical bills?
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20th March 2011, 16:37 | #192 |
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[quote=A Corpse]Or foreigners visiting purely to have kids born here and get free medical care for them.
[quote] The only trouble with that immigration policy generally is that it actually violates an international agreement that NZ signed up to and purportedly supports. But I doubt you're intelligent enough to understand why that might be a bad thing. That amendment introduced by Labour could in some circumstances leave a child stateless. |
20th March 2011, 18:05 | #193 |
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But I doubt you're intelligent enough to understand why that might be a bad thing.[/quote]
Then we shall forever live in ignorance!
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Of course we want taxpayer money to be spent responsibly, but we're talking about the interests of a child which was born in New Zealand and so is automatically a New Zealand citizen.
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20th March 2011, 22:14 | #196 |
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You're right I wrote that wrong, the child was born after 2006 so doesn't qualify.
I can see some value in discouraging people from abusing the system by coming here "solely to give birth" in order to gain citizenship benefits. But I don't think that getting meningococcal disease at age three is a an example of this and I hope that the parents get citizenship.
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21st March 2011, 00:34 | #197 | |
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With those on work visas, make it a condition that someone who falls pregnant has to leave NZ to give birth or risk losing their work permit. Of course, none of these things ought to apply to, for example, genuine refugees. It's far better to accept a few kids who appear "unwelcomed" in NZ as NZ citizens automatically rather than risk the political football of arguing over whether "Hey look, if [insert the name of some horrible country that the parents might be from] would accept your kid, he/she would not be stateless and thus he/she does not need NZ citizenship!" applies. And the country actually can live up to its frankly faked image of being caring and concerned about vulnerable members of humanity. |
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21st March 2011, 01:49 | #198 | |
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So a 3yo girl with meningitis, who was born in the cook islands, and has never set foot in nz, and whose parents, who incidently are Niuen, who also have never set foot in nz, can receive free medical care but a 3yo girl with meningitis, born in nz, to parents who currently live in nz, legally i might add, and who has lived her entire life in nz...........has to pay?
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21st March 2011, 11:07 | #200 |
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A few people in this thread just have a bit more social conscience than you.
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