NZ Labour Party discovers the Internet - Page 8

CCS · 8th December 2012, 01:15

Typical Labour anti-democratic behaviour tbh.

They need to start by reigning in MPs who say stupid shit on social media. Now, naturally they want to extend that to anybody loosely affiliated with the Labour Party but the MPs themselves say a lot of retarded shit on social media. Example, calling Paula Bennett bitchy for saying "Zip it, sweetie." Genious! Fight fire with fire, that's what I always say!

Also hilarious, someone asked Clare Curran on Twitter where they could find Labour's ICT policy. She provided a link to the policy... a link to a copy of the policy hosted by CAMERON SLATER from when he leaked it before Clare Curran had released it! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAFUCKINGAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA YOU USELESS FUCKING SHIT! Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Labour's ICT spokesperson!

Yeah... Labour... ICT... social medias... better sort out your own MPs before you worry about party members.

_Incubus_ · 8th December 2012, 03:46

Simon and I had a conversation (drunken) about stupid shit pollys say in public..We didnt think anyone compares to the Republicans when you combine and old congressman and his views on rape....any other polly needs to view this as a benchmark of absolute zero.

Saladin · 12th April 2013, 11:05

Not Labour, but in a similar vein of old people discovering new technology

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/nation...hreat-minister

Quote:

"If people could print off ... sheets of Ecstasy tablets at the party they're at at that time that just completely takes away our border protection role in its known sense."

Juju · 12th April 2013, 11:22

He's been snorting too much LSD.

A Corpse · 12th April 2013, 13:49

... that someone faxed to him?

Lightspeed · 12th April 2013, 13:52

Maybe he's just ahead of his time? Consumer devices with the capacity the manufacture complex compounds may not be that radical a concept... in maybe 20-50 years time.

Ab · 12th April 2013, 14:17

Jebus, save us from old people.

Golden Teapot · 12th April 2013, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Saladin

Perhaps you're not aware of what is almost possible here? The US is extremely concerned about the same thing - in fact Maurice pinched his concern from them.

fidgit · 12th April 2013, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Golden Teapot

Perhaps you're not aware of what is almost possible here? The US is extremely concerned about the same thing - in fact Maurice pinched his concern from them.

Weapons sure, we've seen the printable guns, and those will only get better - but drugs? That seems a little more specific in terms of what a 3Dprinter has available to it as raw material. And if we're so good (sarcastic, we're actually rubbish) at stopping ContacNT at the border, why would what precursor LSD needs be any different? Seems more like old-rich-white-folk scare-mongering because the *real* issue with 3D printers is we're already used to the idea of piracy - image being able to pirate... Anything.

CCS · 13th April 2013, 01:20

Pretty sure I've read about machines of this nature. Whether they're still a dream or people are working on them, don't really know. But Maurice can fret when these machines are actually available.

Anyway, you can ban them or whatevs, but at some point the technology will be cheap enough that people can have them in their home - which will be the ultimate goal home dispensary. But before then people will be hacking them up, Maker Bot style. The question is how people get a hold of the constituent ingredients for their drug making.

Oh yeah, here's some articles along the lines of what I saw.

http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...page-view=true
http://www.vice.com/read/in-the-futu...l-be-a-printer

Quick scan: this shit is still in the dreaming stages. Printable guns will still be an issue, but it's already illegal to possess certain firearms without the requisite license. It'll be illegal to possess 3D printed firearms. As Maurice points out, it's a border question: instead of smuggling firearms, people will print them.

Golden Teapot · 13th April 2013, 08:03

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Originally Posted by fidgit

Weapons sure, we've seen the printable guns, and those will only get better - but drugs?

Yep - various governments around the world, and in particular the USA, are worrying about how close it is to being possible to print drugs.

For something like this the worry and planning needs to come during the science fiction phase because the implications for society are profound.

DrTiTus · 13th April 2013, 13:21

Don't want to disrupt their trade!

Ab · 13th April 2013, 13:54

If a replicator can spit out Ecstasy then it can spit out Vitamin C, RU486, Viagra, or patented antivirals.

Lightspeed · 13th April 2013, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Golden Teapot

Yep - various governments around the world, and in particular the USA, are worrying about how close it is to being possible to print drugs.

Extremely far away from a technical perspective. Constructing specific individual, stable molecules? Even printers that work on the nano-scale don't even come close. The precursor for LSD in this context would be atoms of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and oxygen.

chubby · 13th April 2013, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

If a replicator can spit out Ecstasy then it can spit out Vitamin C, RU486, Viagra, or patented antivirals.

And theres the rub.

chubby · 13th April 2013, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Golden Teapot

Yep - various governments around the world, and in particular the USA, are worrying about how close it is to being possible to print drugs.

For something like this the worry and planning needs to come during the science fiction phase because the implications for society are profound.

Helz yeah.
Wheres mine...plus an oculus rift.
Xmas forever.

CCS · 6th June 2013, 18:06

da fuq

Lightspeed · 15th June 2013, 13:16

Labour are a bunch of fucking numbskulls. Palling around at SkyCity while trying to oppose its expansion. WTF?

Ab · 15th June 2013, 17:55

Seriously, they're the muppet show.

Ab · 17th June 2013, 15:25

Today's case in point: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA130...works-woes.htm

CCS · 17th June 2013, 15:44

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

chubby · 17th June 2013, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

id love to hear your insightful perspective on what happened

CCS · 17th June 2013, 21:12

What, you seriously don't understand why Mediaworks ran into problems? Surely you don't believe Curran's line about it being Sky's fault, do you? I mean, I could explain it to you but it would be a waste of time since it's your policy to disbelieve and disagree with everything I say and then make up some lies.

Anyway...

WhaleOil has some great tweets re Curran:

Lightspeed · 17th June 2013, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS

What, you seriously don't understand why Mediaworks ran into problems? Surely you don't believe Curran's line about it being Sky's fault, do you?

Is it cause John Campbell hasn't broken a story of national significance ever?

CCS · 17th June 2013, 22:55

We can blame Rupert Murdoch, right? I mean, he has nothing to do with Sky anymore but little things like facts don't matter. John Key looking out for his rich mates again, doing dirty back room deals because Mediaworks was too left in it's reporting!

chubby · 18th June 2013, 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS

What, you seriously don't understand why Mediaworks ran into problems?

no, id love to hear your 'insights'.

but kiwiblog will certainly serve.

Ab · 18th June 2013, 02:54

I blame the National government's policy of over-regulation/under-regulation, and demand that they fix this with less/more regulation!

CCS · 18th June 2013, 03:31

I don't know why I bother, but I'll bite. I don't have an 'insight' I only have What Happened. I hope you're not too disappointed with the unvarnished truth.

Sky has nothing to do with Mediaworks going into receivership. It wasn't anything to do with their (Mediaworks) ratings. It wasn't anything to do with how Mediaworks is being managed. It sure as hell isn't anything to do with Sky being meanies. It's all to do with Ironbridge's leveraged buyout of Mediaworks prior to the GFC for a huge sum of money. Mediaworks got saddled with a debt that ended up being $700 million odd dollars. Mediaworks just couldn't service that debt, hence receivership. Sky TV has nothing at all to do with Mediaworks being burdened with the debt that Ironbridge used to buy Mediaworks! Regulation of Sky TV would have done jack shit to help Mediaworks. Hell, Mediaworks has a dozen radio stations. Sky doesn't even compete with Mediaworks in radio!

Without the debt, Mediaworks (at least its television) actually does okay as a business.

All of this should be painfully fucking obvious to Clare Curran. That's why she is being mocked so hard. I can't work out if she truly does not understand why Mediaworks is in receivership or if she is just pretending not to so that she can bang the 'Sky TV is hencewhymonopoly' drum. I get that hating on Sky is her favourite stump speech and she'll try to bring it up on any occasion. But, holy shit, try to do it intelligently.

Curran is so incompetent with her portfolio it's just not funny. I'll conclude with this quote from a commenter on WOBH:

Quote:

To the best of my knowledge we've never had a Broadcasting Minister / spokesperson who'd come closer to broadcasting than being interviewed on it, but none were *this* far out of their depth.

chubby · 18th June 2013, 07:55

already got that from the herald,but ta anyway.

Lightspeed · 18th June 2013, 11:12

NZG has better reporting that the Herald IMO.

Basically it sounds like MediaWorks got grifted by some investment organisation who I assume is laughing all the way to the bank? What's Curran's involvement beyond ignorant comments?

Ab · 18th June 2013, 14:12

Sounds like they got Bain Capital'd. Not Bain itself, but Ironbridge seems to have used that buyout-debt-restructure model.

Jodi · 18th June 2013, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Sounds like they got Bain Capital'd. Not Bain itself, but Ironbridge seems to have used that buyout-debt-restructure model.

That's exactly what I thought, the whole "used loan money to buy company, then make company pay off loan, which it can't, until it fails. Pocket fees." thing.

CCS · 18th June 2013, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by chubby

already got that from the herald,but ta anyway.

Lol, you are a muppet of the worst order.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Basically it sounds like MediaWorks got grifted by some investment organisation who I assume is laughing all the way to the bank? What's Curran's involvement beyond ignorant comments?

No involvement whatsoever, as far as anyone can tell. She's standing on the sidelines, commentating on a spectacle she just doesn't understand.

The reports I've seen suggest that Ironbridge has taken a bit of a hit from all this as well.

Ab · 18th June 2013, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCS

She's standing on the sidelines, commentating on a spectacle she just doesn't understand.

Situation normal then.

Lightspeed · 19th June 2013, 00:10

Positive future for MediaWorks - receivers

So wait, did a few banks just buy themselves a TV station?

CCS · 26th June 2013, 17:21

Ripped straight from the pages of Whale Oil:

Quote:

Clare Curran is the gift that just keeps on giving. Just when you think she can’t get any dumber she comes out and proves us wrong.

The tip line has produced an absolute gem which shows why the ICT sector should be crapping themselves if Curran ever gets the portfolio.

During Radio New Zealand’s financial review appearance Clare Curran showed what a techtard she is.

This transcript exert below is brilliant. RNZ chief executive Peter Cavanagh did well not to start pissing himself laughing.

Jonathan Young: I listen to your programmes every day of the week through my iPad. I don’t use my radio anymore except as an alarm.

Clare Curran: Actually, I just wanted to wave it at you because it is such a great innovation, the app, and I have listened – I used it when I was in the States last year, and it was amazing to be there and to hear the quality of the voice coming through. It’s fantastic. The only criticism I would have of it, and I’m interested to know if this is happening to other people, is that it cuts off. It cuts out after a certain amount of time, and then you’ve got to stick it back on again. So there’s some sort of glitch, but I don’t think it’s just my iPhone.

Peter Cavanagh: Can I respond to that one? Are you mobile at the time you’re using it?

Clare Curran: Sometimes not. So you’ve got to walk around with it to keep it going, is that the answer?

Peter Cavanagh: No, no, no. We’re not aware of any bugs in the iPhone application itself, but we certainly have had reports—and I’ve experienced this myself, listening, when I’ve been out walking. But as you move you move from one reception area to another, and sometimes when you change reception areas it cuts out and then will cut back in again.

Just in case you missed it, Curran was actually asking if you have to be continually walking round to ensure the app works properly!

I couldn’t make this up.

I bet she experiences loads of Chair to Keyboard interface problems.

plaz0r · 26th June 2013, 18:09

Time to rename this thread "Clare Curran discovers the Internet"

The sooner Labour cuts her loose the better.

ZoSo · 2nd August 2013, 12:26

https://twitter.com/chrishipkins/sta...79799804051456

Funny. #affordablehousing

Ab · 2nd August 2013, 13:14

It appears the National Party communications team is redundant; Labour seems to be doing a great job of making National look good.

xor · 2nd August 2013, 14:01

8th December 2012, 01:15	#281
CCS Stunt Pants	Typical Labour anti-democratic behaviour tbh. They need to start by reigning in MPs who say stupid shit on social media. Now, naturally they want to extend that to anybody loosely affiliated with the Labour Party but the MPs themselves say a lot of retarded shit on social media. Example, calling Paula Bennett bitchy for saying "Zip it, sweetie." Genious! Fight fire with fire, that's what I always say! Also hilarious, someone asked Clare Curran on Twitter where they could find Labour's ICT policy. She provided a link to the policy... a link to a copy of the policy hosted by CAMERON SLATER from when he leaked it before Clare Curran had released it! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAAFUCKINGAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA YOU USELESS FUCKING SHIT! Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Labour's ICT spokesperson! Yeah... Labour... ICT... social medias... better sort out your own MPs before you worry about party members. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

12th April 2013, 13:49	#285
A Corpse talkative lurker	... that someone faxed to him? __________________ Broke my addiction! Bye bye Eve, hello Minecraft. Wait... >_<

13th April 2013, 01:20	#290
CCS Stunt Pants	Pretty sure I've read about machines of this nature. Whether they're still a dream or people are working on them, don't really know. But Maurice can fret when these machines are actually available. Anyway, you can ban them or whatevs, but at some point the technology will be cheap enough that people can have them in their home - which will be the ultimate goal home dispensary. But before then people will be hacking them up, Maker Bot style. The question is how people get a hold of the constituent ingredients for their drug making. Oh yeah, here's some articles along the lines of what I saw. http://www.popsci.com/science/articl...page-view=true http://www.vice.com/read/in-the-futu...l-be-a-printer Quick scan: this shit is still in the dreaming stages. Printable guns will still be an issue, but it's already illegal to possess certain firearms without the requisite license. It'll be illegal to possess 3D printed firearms. As Maurice points out, it's a border question: instead of smuggling firearms, people will print them. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

13th April 2013, 13:21	#292
DrTiTus HENCE WHY FOREVER ALONE	Don't want to disrupt their trade! __________________ Finger rolling rhythm, ride the horse one hand...

6th June 2013, 18:06	#297
CCS Stunt Pants	da fuq __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

8th December 2012, 03:46	#282
_Incubus_	Simon and I had a conversation (drunken) about stupid shit pollys say in public..We didnt think anyone compares to the Republicans when you combine and old congressman and his views on rape....any other polly needs to view this as a benchmark of absolute zero.

12th April 2013, 11:22	#284
Juju get to da choppa	He's been snorting too much LSD.

12th April 2013, 13:52	#286
Lightspeed	Maybe he's just ahead of his time? Consumer devices with the capacity the manufacture complex compounds may not be that radical a concept... in maybe 20-50 years time. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

12th April 2013, 14:17	#287
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Jebus, save us from old people.

13th April 2013, 13:54	#293
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	If a replicator can spit out Ecstasy then it can spit out Vitamin C, RU486, Viagra, or patented antivirals.

15th June 2013, 13:16	#298
Lightspeed	Labour are a bunch of fucking numbskulls. Palling around at SkyCity while trying to oppose its expansion. WTF? __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

15th June 2013, 17:55	#299
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Seriously, they're the muppet show.

17th June 2013, 15:25	#300
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Today's case in point: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA130...works-woes.htm

17th June 2013, 15:44	#301
CCS Stunt Pants	A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

17th June 2013, 21:12	#303
CCS Stunt Pants	What, you seriously don't understand why Mediaworks ran into problems? Surely you don't believe Curran's line about it being Sky's fault, do you? I mean, I could explain it to you but it would be a waste of time since it's your policy to disbelieve and disagree with everything I say and then make up some lies. Anyway... WhaleOil has some great tweets re Curran: __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

17th June 2013, 22:55	#305
CCS Stunt Pants	We can blame Rupert Murdoch, right? I mean, he has nothing to do with Sky anymore but little things like facts don't matter. John Key looking out for his rich mates again, doing dirty back room deals because Mediaworks was too left in it's reporting! __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

18th June 2013, 02:54	#307
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	I blame the National government's policy of over-regulation/under-regulation, and demand that they fix this with less/more regulation!

18th June 2013, 07:55	#309
chubby	already got that from the herald,but ta anyway. __________________ "Take four red capsules, in ten minutes-take two more. Help is on the way."

18th June 2013, 11:12	#310
Lightspeed	NZG has better reporting that the Herald IMO. Basically it sounds like MediaWorks got grifted by some investment organisation who I assume is laughing all the way to the bank? What's Curran's involvement beyond ignorant comments? __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

18th June 2013, 14:12	#311
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Sounds like they got Bain Capital'd. Not Bain itself, but Ironbridge seems to have used that buyout-debt-restructure model.

19th June 2013, 00:10	#315
Lightspeed	Positive future for MediaWorks - receivers So wait, did a few banks just buy themselves a TV station? __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

26th June 2013, 18:09	#317
plaz0r	Time to rename this thread "Clare Curran discovers the Internet" The sooner Labour cuts her loose the better.

2nd August 2013, 12:26	#318
ZoSo	https://twitter.com/chrishipkins/sta...79799804051456 Funny. #affordablehousing

2nd August 2013, 13:14	#319
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	It appears the National Party communications team is redundant; Labour seems to be doing a great job of making National look good.