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Old 6th November 2008, 22:58     #1
DrTiTus
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o_O Obama's Hypnosis Techniques Revealed

Obama's speeches are pretty powerful... maybe too powerful? Is this "messiah" too good to be true? Why are his speeches so good?

His request for us to "summon a new spirit" reminded me too much of the occult reading I've been doing lately, so I searched for "obama hypnosis"...

http://www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27...s_Speeches.pdf

(67 pages)

NLP, covert hypnosis, conversational hypnosis, or just great oratory?

While it might make me look paranoid, I just thought I'd chuck the document in the mix so you can make up your own minds, and see why his speeches have so much impact.
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Old 6th November 2008, 23:03     #2
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Ahahaah.....


*intakes breath*







AHAHAHAHAAHAAaahahahaHAHAHAHahahahahahhahahahahaa....
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Old 7th November 2008, 01:17     #3
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Old 7th November 2008, 01:58     #4
DrTiTus
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Or you can not learn anything at all from it, and just laugh because your public speaking skills are fierce.

Up to you :P
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Old 7th November 2008, 08:51     #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrTiTus
His request for us to "summon a new spirit" reminded me too much of the occult reading I've been doing lately, so I searched for "obama hypnosis"...
Any repetition of phrases, any slogans that get the crowd chanting them along with them, etc - can all be considered hypnosis. However, we get worse from pretty much every TV commercial
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Old 7th November 2008, 10:13     #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrTiTus
While it might make me look paranoid, I just thought I'd chuck the document in the mix so you can make up your own minds, and see why his speeches have so much impact.
lol @ the use of "make up your own minds".

Put down your occult magic fairy stories and enjoy reality for a change.
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Old 7th November 2008, 10:16     #7
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Old 7th November 2008, 10:32     #8
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o_O

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Put down your occult magic fairy stories and enjoy reality for a change.
Have you seen reality lately?
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Old 7th November 2008, 10:33     #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DrTiTus
Or you can not learn anything at all from it, and just laugh because your public speaking skills are fierce.

Up to you :P
I choose laughing, thanks.
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Old 7th November 2008, 10:37     #10
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Quote:
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Have you seen reality lately?
oh, thats rich.
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Old 7th November 2008, 10:44     #11
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Palin couldn't see reality from her house...
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Old 7th November 2008, 11:40     #12
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Stop persecuting the conspiracy nuts, it only feeds into their delusion. Try agreeing with them instead. Either they'll snap out of it when they no longer get the kick they get out of being "suppressed by the man" or they'll become so set in their delusions that their mental collapse will be all the more entertaining.
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Old 7th November 2008, 11:42     #13
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NLP, covert hypnosis, conversational hypnosis, or just great oratory?
Look at the cute little squirrel. Or is it too cute? So cute that it is in fact a ninja DRESSED AS A SQUIRREL. Look at the video and decide for yourself!

<If no video appears in this post, the global conspiracy has removed it>
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Old 7th November 2008, 12:21     #14
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What about the Republican's winking techniques?
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Old 7th November 2008, 12:23     #15
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Ah, love this

Firstly I have read the article. I don't agree with it, as a lot of what is spoken about could easily relate to just about everything.

That aside, DrTiTus - if you read through or watch Obama's speeches and feel that you should be suspicious, by all means be suspicious. Hitler was a fantasic orator too, and we all know that people can be very easily swayed by the emotion of what we hear. At the moment Obama is saying what a lot of us want to hear which is all well and good - and I won't be overly concerned unless he starts to talk about persecuting Jews, or bringing employment opportunities to the poor by starting "poor people workcamps" just outside the cities!

Ignore the naysayers, and trust your intuition
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Old 7th November 2008, 12:37     #16
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Yes, ignore all rational argument and trust your misguided instincts - kind of Palin-esque really ;p
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Old 7th November 2008, 12:45     #17
ChaosWulf
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Don't make me shoot a moose to prove you wrong, Whippy

I'm not saying to ignore logic, not in the slightest. As I said, so far Obama hasn't actually said anything negative or anything worth being concerned about. However - if DrTiTus doesn't trust the mans oratory style, there is no reason why he should, just because everyone else says so. Historically speaking, some of the most convincing and charismatic orators are the ones that have done the most damage, and there is nothing wrong with keeping your eyes open or trusting yourself.

... so there
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Old 7th November 2008, 12:52     #18
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Obama's is a different kind of demagoguery to Hitler's - but it is still demagoguery. Hitler was all about whipping up people into a frenzy of patriotic fervour, through increasingly shouting and gesticulating as he got towards his main theme. Obama is all about "preaching", getting people to respond through affirmation ("Yes we can") but it's all very low key, and relaxed - comforting.

Both very effective techniques.

But the idea that Obama is some kind of snake-charmer deliberately using hypnosis on a mass scale is ridiculous.

"Look at my eyes, at my eyes, don't look around the eyes, and.... you're under".

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Old 7th November 2008, 12:52     #19
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Quote:
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...and there is nothing wrong with keeping your eyes open or trusting yourself.
And wearing a tinfoil hat. Trust yourself, keep your eyes open and wear a tinfoil hat.
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Old 7th November 2008, 12:58     #20
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Comparing Obama to Hitler, in oratory styles of course, is still one of the dumbest comparissons I could think of. Palin/Hitler? Sure ... Obama/hitler? Really? The need for some kind of juicy conspiracy is THAT HUGE that it's even mentioned in passing? Hitler also wore pants, was a vegetarian, walked on two legs... OHMYGODTHEY'RETHESAME!!!

Lame.
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Old 7th November 2008, 13:04     #21
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Quote:
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Comparing Obama to Hitler, in oratory styles of course, is still one of the dumbest comparissons I could think of.
Haven't studied your history, have you.

In any case, I don't agree with the article in the slightest - however DrTiTus shouldn't be ridiculed for his concerns. Thank you, and that is all
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Old 7th November 2008, 13:28     #22
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All great orators use many of the same methods as hypnotists do, regardless of whether it is done consciously or unconsciously.
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Old 7th November 2008, 13:31     #23
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Quote:
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All great orators use many of the same methods as hypnotists do, regardless of whether it is done consciously or unconsciously.
This.
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Old 7th November 2008, 13:50     #24
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DrTiTus shouldn't be ridiculed for his concerns.
Yes he should. He deserves our scorn and should become our whipping boy. It should be written on his chin "Please deposit ridicule here".
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Old 7th November 2008, 14:00     #25
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Ridicule is completely valid in this case.
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Old 7th November 2008, 15:20     #26
DrTiTus
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Didn't you cunts learn anything after watching "Century of the Self"? People are easily fooled. Brainwashed into being mindless consumers. Dumbed down, and led to conformity.

Simply put, I don't trust the US Government.

I've read too much about MKULTRA, and the CIA mind control experiments, which have been acknowledged as a very real part of history.

Ignorance would be bliss, but unfortunately I started reading more about the Illuminati and their plans for a New World Order while Bush was fucking with us. This led to research of Nazi occultism and the Thule Society, satanism, mysticism, occultism in general, Zionists, kaballah, religion, hypnosis, psychology and symbolism.

Can a skillful orator implant suggestions?
Yes they can.

Rather than ridicule me (too easy, I've laid it all out), help me out here...

My questions to you are:

a) Do you believe Bush was a puppet for the agenda of people behind the scenes? (Bilderbergers, CFR, Tri Lateral Commission, or any others)

b) If not, why did everyone support the idiot? If so, what makes you think Obama is any different?


c) Do you support or oppose a "one world government"?

d) Do you think a country which experimented with mind control for national security would hesitate to orchestrate a great dupe to get the people to go along with everything they suggest via clever speeches and Hollywood music blasting in the background, while offering feeble alternative candidates and a promise of change from the tyranny they pushed for 8 years?

e) Do YOU trust Obama?
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Old 7th November 2008, 15:23     #27
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Devil grin

As for reality, reality is economics.

Economics is being fucked with by globalisation and the corrupt Federal Reserve.

These are both supposed agendas of the global elite - ie. you can't escape their reach.

So, know your enemy.
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Old 7th November 2008, 15:26     #28
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You should read up about Kung Fu. Much more interesting.
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Old 7th November 2008, 15:27     #29
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Quote:
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so far Obama hasn't actually said anything negative or anything worth being concerned about.
Pushing for a one world government - a New World Order.

I've been reading about this shit since I was 12/13 on the BBSes.

I'm still undecided whether it's just "anti-communist" sentiment from the days of the Cold War, and one world government would be a good thing, or whether the warnings from history/Orwell/Huxley mean we should avoid going down the path of socialism.

This is a very real concern to me...
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Old 7th November 2008, 15:28     #30
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Old 7th November 2008, 15:29     #31
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So if the Bilderbergers, CFR, Tri Lateral Commission, Nazi occultists, Thule Society, satanists, mysticists, occultists in general, Zionists, Lizard People, Freemasons, Skull and Bones Society, Mole Men, Jewish Conspiracy and Illuminati are behind Bush, who is behind Obama? The Exclusive Brethren?
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Old 7th November 2008, 15:55     #32
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This is a very real concern to me...
you should have been concerned before the new world order became a reality

perhaps not officially yet but
the world financial markets over the last year show you where that order lies

oil, gold, money and the markets:
that is the world order we all live under.

Obama put it very well:
"our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared"
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Old 7th November 2008, 16:00     #33
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Old 7th November 2008, 16:23     #34
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a) Do you believe Bush was a puppet for the agenda of people behind the scenes? (Bilderbergers, CFR, Tri Lateral Commission, or any others)

I think he was a(n) (unwilling? unwitting?) puppet for the Neocon agenda, look at some of the more prominent think tanks, the likes of PNAC

b) If not, why did everyone support the idiot? If so, what makes you think Obama is any different?

People do funny things when someone attacks THEIR country with THEIR planes killing THEIR people, couple this with an out of control media machine and here we are.

c) Do you support or oppose a "one world government"?

This is a tricky one, don't have enough time to get into this now, hopefully someone else has a good answer here

d) Do you think a country which experimented with mind control for national security would hesitate to orchestrate a great dupe to get the people to go along with everything they suggest via clever speeches and Hollywood music blasting in the background, while offering feeble alternative candidates and a promise of change from the tyranny they pushed for 8 years?

Yes.

e) Do YOU trust Obama?

Yes, I believe he is sincere in everything he says, this kind of thing is particularly encouraging
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Old 7th November 2008, 16:45     #35
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Old 7th November 2008, 16:49     #36
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Quote:
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Pushing for a one world government - a New World Order.

I've been reading about this shit since I was 12/13 on the BBSes....This is a very real concern to me...
And fair enough, any change is scary. Conspiracy theories have always been around, I think it's smart to keep your eyes open, but not to jump at shadows. Odds are if you took everything you believed to be an absolute truth and pieced it together, you'd come up with a very different opinion than any you've seen on BBS's or books on the subject. Believing a recognised conspiracy theory is no different to believing what the masses do - except yours is fueled by fear rather than ignorance.

I don't know how things would be under a one world government, but in all honesty can you say that separate governments and agendas have made the world a better place?
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Old 7th November 2008, 16:49     #37
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I don't want my tax dollars funding your tinfoil hat.
That's OK, I hear Aluminium foil works better anyway.
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Old 7th November 2008, 16:52     #38
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bah, these redundant arguments take our eyes off the new galaxy order (allows germans)
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Old 7th November 2008, 17:21     #39
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DrTiTus: I apologise for mocking.

I've been something of a conspiracy enthusiast (I won't say theorist) for a long time as well. I do not categorically believe any of them in their entirety. I do believe there are some that are just completely batshit crazy. I do believe that some are in part probably very correct.

I believe there are secret societies; I believe they are powerful and influence the policy of nations and unions of nations; and they exist to protect and advance their own interests. I don't believe they are satanists, lizard people, aliens, spoon-benders, hypnotists or X-men. Well... they might be satanists and hypnotists... but they'd just be hobbies. Is there a 'They/Them'? ie: Are these secret societies colluding with each other in some massive, unilateral cabal with one goal? No - I don't believe so. The danger is though, that people seem to think there are only 2 extremes:

either:
1. secret societies don't exist, and if you even consider the possibile existence of the less radical ones you must be a crazy conspiracy nut-case.

or:
2. they're all out to get us! We're sheep! We've been duped - it's all a massive hoax! Maybe I am The One!

I believe there's a huge miasma of information and possibility in the middle, and as ChaosWulf says, it's a damn good idea to think about it. To consider just why some international groups exist; what their agenda is; why we are happy to accept some things we maybe shouldn't; how pervasive this 'secret society protectionism' is.

But seriously... I did a quick search for 'Obama Horn Hand Gesture' in Google, and got this page: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353695/pg1; which in turned linked to this page: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...s_of_satan.htm

Now... see how they're saying that Amy Grant was an occultist and perhaps somehow influences the WTO? Please tell me you think that falls into category 2. above.
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Old 7th November 2008, 17:33     #40
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I would like to know more about Nazi Occultism.
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