Changing my Vote

[ZeroBC]

Green

Is this a foolish decision?

[CCS]

Yes.

[A Corpse]

Isn't the point of the electoral system we have to vote for you will believe will do the best job? Why would anyone (especially here) get to veto your vote?

[CCS]

Originally Posted by A Corpse

Why would anyone (especially here) get to veto your vote?

wat

[Golden Teapot]

If you support communist ideals and a party that will achieve nothing at all because even if they're in government they will be marginalised then that's probably the best way to vote.

If you care about the environment then all of the parties have robust and quite similar views of what should happen or be maintained. The media will suggest to you otherwise so that they can sell you sensationalised shock-horror content. If this is the case then National or labour are good voting choices. They're basically both the same except labour has lost the plot for the next couple of elections and so National is the only sane choice today out of the two.

If you care about the environment and are right-wing then vote for ACT but be aware that this is like voting green - essentially pointless for most purposes.

If you're a good wholesome person with no particular agenda and you just want sensible representation then vote Maori; they're good people who act sensibly and with integrity.

If you're an entitlement seeking beneficiary who cares nothing for your own future then Mana has set up shop just for you.

[ZeroBC]

So what changes would Greens have to make to get your vote?

[CCS]

Get ride of everyone in the Green Party for a start... I assume you're against hydro-electric dams?

[ZeroBC]

If National care about the environment then why are they building a dam on a pristine river on the west coast destroying an ecosystem when they don't even need the power? It's flippin' ludicrous. I just want to make an informed decision I could go Maori, I'm not racist in the slightest. Haere Ra.

[ZeroBC]

Yeah the guy campaigning in Rotorua has zero charisma. He gave a long boring talk to all his supporters with zero communication strategy, like preaching to the choir. It was very very torturous and I started laughing cos I couldn't get out stuck in a boring presentation with no escape, on my on time, God save me.

[fixed_truth]

Originally Posted by ZeroBC

Green

Is this a foolish decision?

If you've had a look at the different parties policies and how they do things and then choose the one you like best then I wouldn't call that a foolish vote regardless of who you end up voting for.

[ZeroBC]

Well I know who I dislike immensely and from your quick summaries I'm down to Greens and Maori

[ZeroBC]

Maori television is actually really good. I enjoy the nutters club, cept he keeps interviewing drug reformed people out of jail.

[ZeroBC]

Has any one of you tried the political compass, Me and all my friends come out Liberal Left with Ghandi and Mandala and no NZ parties are even in this quadrant, it's quite weird.

[CCS]

If you're changing your vote, who were you voting for before?

[ZeroBC]

My Vote History is this:
2001: Act
2004: National
2007: National

[fixed_truth]

2,5,8

[CCS]

What's making you swing to the left?

[ZeroBC]

Good Question.

1) Environment
2) Sustainability
3) Lack of incentive for New Zealand made
4) a complete and shit utter waste of space social service
5) selling of state owned assets
6) Education system
7) Health system
8) Employment Relations
9) Lack of holidays
10) not enough Money
11) too much wasted money on living expenses
12) lack of compassion and altruism for Christchurch
13) too much penny pushing and time management
14) Not enough support for families that are actually together
15) Not enough backing for creative minds
16) Not dealing to fat people

[CCS]

Do you think we were better off under Labour?

Originally Posted by ZeroBC

9) Lack of holidays
10) not enough Money

Bahahahaaa! Four weeks a year plus public holidays not enough for you?

Oh, not enough money, yeah. Ok. I'll vote for whatever party will hand out some cash to me.

[ZeroBC]

Considered our Westward neighbours?

[ZeroBC]

I'd consider contracting you as a minimum wage employee CSS $15 p/h but you need to add value.

[CCS]

Tell me how many holidays Australians get and then tell me why four weeks isn't enough.


This money thing... if you just want more money, maybe you could move to Australia? I'm pretty sure Australia has had better pay than us for a long time but I guess it is en vogue to talk about catching up to Australia at the moment.

[ZeroBC]

talk about a few of those other things not just what your good at

[CCS]

Originally Posted by ZeroBC

I'd consider contracting you as a minimum wage employee CSS $15 p/h but you need to add value.

Sorry, I can't do internet programming.

[CCS]

Originally Posted by ZeroBC

talk about a few of those other things not just what your good at

Make sense, please.

[ZeroBC]

Where do you add value to society?

P.P.S. I'm experiencing some delays in this forum keeps making me wait a minute or two to post. This isn't very streamline. Nothing like the 90s'

[ZeroBC]

I'll make it simple for you, tell me what your party is doing about this issue: 1) Environment

[CCS]

Originally Posted by ZeroBC

Where do you add value to society?

I don't understand the point of this question.

[CCS]

Originally Posted by ZeroBC

I'll make it simple for you, tell me what your party is doing about this issue: 1) Environment

I don't have a party.

[ZeroBC]

Originally Posted by CCS

I don't understand the point of this question.

Well with that I have lost all respect for you, can you ignore people on this thing?

[CCS]

That's fine. I lost all respect for you quite a few posts ago so now I guess we're even. I wonder if you realise how tedious it is talking to someone who can only speak in vague statements but can't articulate his reasoning or his thought process and doesn't seem to have any point.

It's actually like talking to a young child.

[ZeroBC]

LOL, feeble troll

[CCS]

No, it's not a troll. I'm serious. You're not very good at expressing yourself.

[ZeroBC]

and you express nothing?

[CCS]

Uhh... no... I don't think you actually understand what I'm saying. When I speak, I'm conveying and idea or meaning. You're not. You speak in one or two sentence statements. I don't believe you realise this.

I think that rather than being defensive, you should embrace what I'm saying to you and strive to better yourself. I suppose if somebody tells you that you don't make sense, it's natural to take it as an insult and lash out. However, instead of becoming aggravated, you should see it as an opportunity to prove me wrong by demonstrating that you can in fact express your ideas.

[BoyWonder]

You sound like a forum plant for the Green Party.

It starts off as vague fence sitting but then all of a sudden its a detailed list of areas of concern and then you successfully turn it into an argument.

[CCS]

"I used to vote NACT but now I have seen the Way and the Light and I'm voting Green this year!"
Why?
"Can't really say. But it feelsgoodman."

[cyc]

ZeroBC, let me try and help you another way. At the moment you're coming across like a carbon copy of the resident retard of NZG, Lightspeed, in that all you're offering are glib, one/two-line statements that either say nothing or come across as though you have some hidden meaning which you're unable/unwilling to fully articulate because you lack the gumption to articulate your ideas.

Do you want to descend to LS' childishness?

[ZoSo]

I doubt a plant would chuck in 4) & 16). That would be too elaborate and other posts don't quite show that kind of sophistication. Seems more like a save the snails type.

[ZeroBC]

Originally Posted by cyc

ZeroBC, let me try and help you another way. At the moment you're coming across like a carbon copy of the resident retard of NZG, Lightspeed, in that all you're offering are glib, one/two-line statements that either say nothing or come across as though you have some hidden meaning which you're unable/unwilling to fully articulate because you lack the gumption to articulate your ideas.

Thankyou cyc, I appreciate your feedback. Is there anything in particular you consider vague and would like me to talk about? What wordcount should I aim for in order to satisfy your requirements? I don't have a lot of time, so very very busy.