ACT - Page 2

cyc · 15th September 2010, 16:36

I'd love to see this guy utterly humiliated and, frankly, hounded out of parliament for his complete and utter hypocrisy, especially given that he's consistently advocated positions that are utterly without mercy and consideration for the rights of offenders.

Enjoy the reaming, David Garret. You've had it coming.

fixed_truth · 15th September 2010, 17:04

He made a silly mistake 26yrs ago, it's been dealt with by the courts so imo the offense is a non-issue.

However, the fact that Garret has shown to be the type of person who is far from sympathetic to others in similar positions is LOL.

chubby · 15th September 2010, 18:15

nice work.

Ab · 15th September 2010, 18:17

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

He made a silly mistake 26yrs ago, it's been dealt with by the courts so imo the offense is a non-issue.

this

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Originally Posted by cyc

I'd love to see this guy utterly humiliated and, frankly, hounded out of parliament for his complete and utter hypocrisy

this too

Cynos · 15th September 2010, 18:43

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

He made a silly mistake 26yrs ago, it's been dealt with by the courts so imo the offense is a non-issue.

Lol, silly mistake eh? You realise what kind of emotional impact this sort of offending can have on grieving parents? Their kid dies, and some twat steals his identity because he read too many spy novels.

fixed_truth · 15th September 2010, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Cynos

Lol, silly mistake eh? You realise what kind of emotional impact this sort of offending can have on grieving parents? Their kid dies, and some twat steals his identity because he read too many spy novels.

Yep, a lot of silly mistakes can cause people pain.

cyc · 15th September 2010, 19:30

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

He made a silly mistake 26yrs ago, it's been dealt with by the courts so imo the offense is a non-issue.

However, the fact that Garret has shown to be the type of person who is far from sympathetic to others in similar positions is LOL.

Non-issue? Sorry, not for me. I expect parliamentarians to have a clean rap sheet. People really need to understand that there are individuals in society who don't have criminal records and I have no issue with certain positions of responsibility being reserved for this class of persons.

Regardless, we can all agree on this: enjoy the fucking reaming, David. You're so fucked.

Saladin · 15th September 2010, 19:39

So the perkbuster absuing perks, crimbuster actually a crim - what's next? Roger Douglas is secretely poor?

fixed_truth · 15th September 2010, 19:54

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Originally Posted by cyc

Non-issue? Sorry, not for me. I expect parliamentarians to have a clean rap sheet. People really need to understand that there are individuals in society who don't have criminal records and I have no issue with certain positions of responsibility being reserved for this class of persons.

I know he has a Tongan assault charge, but would this discharge without conviction even be on his criminal record?

cyc · 15th September 2010, 20:02

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Originally Posted by fixed_truth

I know he has a Tongan assault charge, but would this discharge without conviction even be on his criminal record?

Discharge without convictions are not recorded as convictions but it's still on the computer. At the end of the day, he's not a person of exemplary character. I love his lame excuse for not revealing his Tongan conviction too: "Because I'm innocent of that charge!". Dear David, we don't care what you think.

BoyWonder · 15th September 2010, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Saladin

So the perkbuster absuing perks, crimbuster actually a crim - what's next? Roger Douglas is secretely poor?

lol

madmaxii · 15th September 2010, 20:30

Soooooooo - we want politicians whiter than white (metaphorically speaking), that have never, ever, made mistakes, to represent most of the rest of us who have.

We then complain that our politicians are not representative of the people.

Where next

Fx. · 15th September 2010, 20:38

i have no criminal record and dont think i'd ever consider identity theft to the level of getting a passport to be a prank.

that said i also hate politics and think 90% of MPs are a waste of air.

Deadmeat · 15th September 2010, 22:32

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Originally Posted by madmaxii

We then complain that our politicians are not representative of the people.

Someone who believes a plan involving the phrase "steal the identity of a dead baby" and calls it a prank is representative of who exactly? Sure the rubbish about the assault thing was all a bit LOL, but I don't think it's asking that much for MPs to have not committed identity theft.

MrTTTT · 15th September 2010, 23:04

these LOLS are ROFLMAO

adonis · 16th September 2010, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Ab

OK yeah fine, I gave them my party vote at the last election.

Look, I'm sorry, OK? I'm sorry.

Fuck, we all make mistakes! Jesus! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

'cause it should be on page 2 as well.

doppelgänger of someone · 16th September 2010, 01:31

The only right thing Garrett is left to do in parliament is to advocate tougher sentencing for identity theft. I don't expect him to do it any time soon though.

cyc · 16th September 2010, 03:52

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Mr Hide, who is in Hong Kong, was interviewed tonight on TV One's CloseUp programme and asked whether he considered stealing a dead baby's identity to get a false passport was a harmless prank.

"No. It's horrific. It's horrific for the country because of issues of citizenship and security and it's horrific for the family and the mother who was affected," he said.

Mr Hide said Mr Garrett told him about it before he entered Parliament, and had said he didn't believe he could become an MP.

"I said 'look, you've turned your life around'...I hadn't met anyone who was more passionate and knew more about what we should do to get tough on crime," Mr Hide said.

So apparently Rodney doesn't see the absolute and utter hypocrisy of someone who got a second chance and didn't hesitate to beg for mercy from the courts when it suited him, you know, doing his level best to deny other offeders second chances. What wonderful men you two are, Rodney and Dave! Why don't you two get a room together and get someone to pump exhaust gas into it with the windows shut?

CCS · 16th September 2010, 04:07

With the 3 strikes law, aren't you getting a second and a third chance?

chubby · 16th September 2010, 06:37

^^ these same douchbags have also opposed 'clean slate' legislation.

Saladin · 16th September 2010, 12:08

stuff's ripping into him

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IN GARRETT'S OWN WORDS

"If you target offenders at the lower end, you stop them from descending down the road to more serious crimes."

– Speech to Sensible Sentencing Trust, August 25.

"In the age of the internet, suppressing names can seem pointless to the point of [being] farcical."

– Blog post on June 16.

"Criminals are not stupid. They may not have university degrees or even have finished high school, but they know about cause and effect as it affects them."

– Speech to Parliament, May 25.

Ab · 17th September 2010, 13:36

1. Apparently Garrett just quit. Good riddance.

2. Apparently Hide is flying back from some Hong Kong holiday to deal with the fallout. Which makes me ask of Rodney... WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU DOING ON HOLIDAY! YOU'RE THE MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT! CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE! RING ANY BELLS? THE HOUSE IS SITTING! WHAT THE FUCK! I VOTED FOR YOUR PARTY YOU FUCK!

Cynos · 17th September 2010, 13:45

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Originally Posted by Ab

1. Apparently Garrett just quit. Good riddance.

2. Apparently Hide is flying back from some Hong Kong holiday to deal with the fallout. Which makes me ask of Rodney... WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU DOING ON HOLIDAY!

And did he take his missus for this one?

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Originally Posted by Ab

YOU'RE THE MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT! CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE! RING ANY BELLS? THE HOUSE IS SITTING! WHAT THE FUCK! I VOTED FOR YOUR PARTY YOU FUCK!

Oh man, I genuinely do feel sorry for you. You vote for these guys based on their principles and they all turn into massive hypocrites. Being an ACT voter now must nearly be as bad as being a Christian Heritage Party voter right when Capill got done.

MrTTTT · 17th September 2010, 13:46

you voted for ACT... haha!

Lightspeed · 17th September 2010, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Ab

1. Apparently Garrett just quit. Good riddance.

2. Apparently Hide is flying back from some Hong Kong holiday to deal with the fallout. Which makes me ask of Rodney... WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU DOING ON HOLIDAY! YOU'RE THE MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT! CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE! RING ANY BELLS? THE HOUSE IS SITTING! WHAT THE FUCK! I VOTED FOR YOUR PARTY YOU FUCK!

Hahahahaha, this all makes me very happy.

Saladin · 17th September 2010, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Ab

1. Apparently Garrett just quit. Good riddance.

He's resigned from the party, hasn't yet made the decision whether to stay on in parliament though.

As I/S points out, signs are good for him to stay, as the next few MPs on the ACT list hate his buddy Hide.

TheBender · 17th September 2010, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Saladin

He's resigned from the party, hasn't yet made the decision whether to stay on in parliament though.

As I/S points out, signs are good for him to stay, as the next few MPs on the ACT list hate his buddy Hide.

I know I should know this, bit I seem to recall that if you were a list MP, and got the arse from the party (or quit), then you left parliament as well.

Thought it was only electorate MP's that could stay on as they were elected to represent the seat they won.

Ah, fuck it - I voted ACT too !!!

(there I said it !)

fidgit · 17th September 2010, 23:44

TheBender: pretty sure you can stay in, and that people have done exactly this. Which is clearly bullshit, but, there you go.

(I believe one of the Maori Party MPs did this? curse my poor mental recall ability...)

Saladin · 24th September 2010, 16:31

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ne-ACT-MP-says

I'm confused, is there anything wrong with owning a brothel? Would have thought that it would be perfectly fine under ACT's libertarian ideals. The invisible hand of the market hasn't struck the place down after all!

Lightspeed · 29th September 2010, 00:25

I just wanted to point out it was no real secret who voted for whom, if this poll is anything to go by:

http://www.nzgames.com/forums/poll.p...ults&pollid=60

Everyone's secret shame is revealed.

Lightspeed · 28th October 2010, 01:55

ACT President steps down cause he's feeling tired.

Tired?!

fixed_truth · 28th October 2010, 12:42

Hmmm, I wonder what he's tired of

Ab · 28th October 2010, 13:41

cyc · 5th November 2010, 11:56

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10685452

Good luck, Davey. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Farmer Joe · 5th November 2010, 12:42

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Originally Posted by Ab

16th September 2010, 04:07	#59
CCS Stunt Pants	With the 3 strikes law, aren't you getting a second and a third chance? __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

17th September 2010, 23:44	#68
fidgit Always itchy	TheBender: pretty sure you can stay in, and that people have done exactly this. Which is clearly bullshit, but, there you go. (I believe one of the Maori Party MPs did this? curse my poor mental recall ability...) __________________ 4 7 2 3 9 8 5...1 4 2 9 7 8...14 16 22...36°

5th November 2010, 11:56	#74
cyc Objection!	Can you feel the reaming coming, Garrett? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10685452 Good luck, Davey. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

15th September 2010, 16:36	#41
cyc Objection!	I'd love to see this guy utterly humiliated and, frankly, hounded out of parliament for his complete and utter hypocrisy, especially given that he's consistently advocated positions that are utterly without mercy and consideration for the rights of offenders. Enjoy the reaming, David Garret. You've had it coming.

15th September 2010, 17:04	#42
fixed_truth	He made a silly mistake 26yrs ago, it's been dealt with by the courts so imo the offense is a non-issue. However, the fact that Garret has shown to be the type of person who is far from sympathetic to others in similar positions is LOL. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

15th September 2010, 18:15	#43
chubby	nice work. __________________ "Take four red capsules, in ten minutes-take two more. Help is on the way."

15th September 2010, 19:39	#48
Saladin Nothing to See Here!	So the perkbuster absuing perks, crimbuster actually a crim - what's next? Roger Douglas is secretely poor?

15th September 2010, 20:30	#52
madmaxii	Soooooooo - we want politicians whiter than white (metaphorically speaking), that have never, ever, made mistakes, to represent most of the rest of us who have. We then complain that our politicians are not representative of the people. Where next __________________ Carpe Diem

15th September 2010, 20:38	#53
Fx.	i have no criminal record and dont think i'd ever consider identity theft to the level of getting a passport to be a prank. that said i also hate politics and think 90% of MPs are a waste of air.

16th September 2010, 01:31	#57
doppelgänger of someone	The only right thing Garrett is left to do in parliament is to advocate tougher sentencing for identity theft. I don't expect him to do it any time soon though.

16th September 2010, 06:37	#60
chubby	^^ these same douchbags have also opposed 'clean slate' legislation. __________________ "Take four red capsules, in ten minutes-take two more. Help is on the way."

17th September 2010, 13:36	#62
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	1. Apparently Garrett just quit. Good riddance. 2. Apparently Hide is flying back from some Hong Kong holiday to deal with the fallout. Which makes me ask of Rodney... WHAT THE FUCK WERE YOU DOING ON HOLIDAY! YOU'RE THE MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT! CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE! RING ANY BELLS? THE HOUSE IS SITTING! WHAT THE FUCK! I VOTED FOR YOUR PARTY YOU FUCK!

17th September 2010, 13:46	#64
MrTTTT	you voted for ACT... haha!

24th September 2010, 16:31	#69
Saladin Nothing to See Here!	http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ne-ACT-MP-says I'm confused, is there anything wrong with owning a brothel? Would have thought that it would be perfectly fine under ACT's libertarian ideals. The invisible hand of the market hasn't struck the place down after all!

29th September 2010, 00:25	#70
Lightspeed	I just wanted to point out it was no real secret who voted for whom, if this poll is anything to go by: http://www.nzgames.com/forums/poll.p...ults&pollid=60 Everyone's secret shame is revealed. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

28th October 2010, 01:55	#71
Lightspeed	ACT President steps down cause he's feeling tired. Tired?! __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

28th October 2010, 12:42	#72
fixed_truth	Hmmm, I wonder what he's tired of __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.