ABs vs Ireland

ilk · 21st November 2010, 10:28

See, this is why New Zealand will always fail...because of the pressure we put ourselves under. We just thrashed a team by 20 points and all I can think is "that wasn't very convincing."

mr selfdestruct · 21st November 2010, 10:37

Mmm... kay? I thought NZ played very well. Good luck getting your jersey back Rocket man. Also, we are two locks down now which is not too flash, Donnelly was limping away hard.

PhX · 21st November 2010, 12:10

The try where irleand scooped up the ball was pretty cool. Thats all.

ilk · 21st November 2010, 12:31

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Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

Mmm... kay? I thought NZ played very well. Good luck getting your jersey back Rocket man. Also, we are two locks down now which is not too flash, Donnelly was limping away hard.

That's my point - we played well for most of the game, and when we scored it almost looked too easy - yet what I focus on are the periods where Ireland's baclkline made us look shaky defensively and how loose play nearly cost us tries against the run of play. These are the things that worry me going into a world cup, even though we thrashed them.

Anyway, what are you getting defensive about, Donald didn't even play.

silva^ · 21st November 2010, 12:34

All Blacks simply cannot handle rush defense. It destroyed them a few years back when South Africa used the rush defense, and Ireland used it to good effect this morning. It gives the back line no time to formulate a move, and by the time it gets out to carter the defense is right up in his face. Ireland on the other hand were given plenty of depth to attack with and looked good doing so.

herp · 21st November 2010, 15:15

South Africa lost to Scotland and Australia lost to Munster. Are they deliberately playing poorly before the WC?

mr selfdestruct · 22nd November 2010, 08:54

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South Africa lost to Scotland and Australia lost to Munster. Are they deliberately playing poorly before the WC?

They wish. They simply have poor depth. Their top 15 are solid, their reserves don't even come close. PDV has a predictable habit of clearing the bench as soon as he thinks the game is won and either loses it or comes very close to. Barnes was a shit ton better than Giteau, hand in your gear now mate your career is over.

Meh Donald its over for him, Stephen Brett for WC.

Warrick · 22nd November 2010, 09:17

Gear is so fast/agile. Jane is so powaful, his fend is awesome.

we don't need siti or roko anymore. let's keep what we got!

Koldzy · 22nd November 2010, 18:22

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Originally Posted by mr selfdestruct

They wish. They simply have poor depth. Their top 15 are solid, their reserves don't even come close. PDV has a predictable habit of clearing the bench as soon as he thinks the game is won and either loses it or comes very close to. Barnes was a shit ton better than Giteau, hand in your gear now mate your career is over.

Meh Donald its over for him, Stephen Brett for WC.

Brett? No way!

Slade, or even Delaney. Cruden if he learns to kick.

mr selfdestruct · 23rd November 2010, 09:23

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Brett? No way!

Slade, or even Delaney. Cruden if he learns to kick.

yep he's pretty rubbish now but by the end of the inaugural super 15 everyone will be screaming for Brett to get the call up.

_Incubus_ · 23rd November 2010, 10:23

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yep he's pretty rubbish now but by the end of the inaugural super 15 everyone will be screaming for Brett to get the call up.

I wanted him in at the end of this S14, I thought he had a pretty decent season for the blues. He actually gave them some decent guidance in the backline for the first time in years..

mr selfdestruct · 23rd November 2010, 10:57

He is a demon play maker, marvellous at kicking for field position, his defense and goal kicking need a bit of work but in this years Super 14 and for the Maori's he was outstanding, he creates a lot of space and has the ability to put players into holes at speed. He just needs more time at 10 which he didn't get for Canterbury, he'll be outstanding next year just in time to be selected for the World Cup. I'm certain Ted will just pick the most in form 10 at the end of the S15 for the WC as Dans back up so it's anyones position and I got a feeling it will be Brett.

21st November 2010, 10:37	#2
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	Mmm... kay? I thought NZ played very well. Good luck getting your jersey back Rocket man. Also, we are two locks down now which is not too flash, Donnelly was limping away hard. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

23rd November 2010, 10:57	#12
mr selfdestruct The Deliverator	He is a demon play maker, marvellous at kicking for field position, his defense and goal kicking need a bit of work but in this years Super 14 and for the Maori's he was outstanding, he creates a lot of space and has the ability to put players into holes at speed. He just needs more time at 10 which he didn't get for Canterbury, he'll be outstanding next year just in time to be selected for the World Cup. I'm certain Ted will just pick the most in form 10 at the end of the S15 for the WC as Dans back up so it's anyones position and I got a feeling it will be Brett. __________________ My real signature is not nearly as legible as this one.

21st November 2010, 10:28	#1
ilk	ABs vs Ireland See, this is why New Zealand will always fail...because of the pressure we put ourselves under. We just thrashed a team by 20 points and all I can think is "that wasn't very convincing." __________________ "I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe!"

21st November 2010, 12:10	#3
PhX	The try where irleand scooped up the ball was pretty cool. Thats all. __________________ xyf

21st November 2010, 12:34	#5
silva^	All Blacks simply cannot handle rush defense. It destroyed them a few years back when South Africa used the rush defense, and Ireland used it to good effect this morning. It gives the back line no time to formulate a move, and by the time it gets out to carter the defense is right up in his face. Ireland on the other hand were given plenty of depth to attack with and looked good doing so. __________________ Lumber - crushing people is its reward.

21st November 2010, 15:15	#6
herp	South Africa lost to Scotland and Australia lost to Munster. Are they deliberately playing poorly before the WC?

22nd November 2010, 09:17	#8
Warrick Awesome Ring Master	Gear is so fast/agile. Jane is so powaful, his fend is awesome. we don't need siti or roko anymore. let's keep what we got!