Random Politics - Page 81

Lightspeed · 5th June 2015, 12:07

Some good news from National: we can still afford to pay $1billion annually to those who don't need it:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...elfare-english

Ab · 5th June 2015, 13:00

Welcome to the entire western world.

Lightspeed · 5th June 2015, 13:09

What's that? Dishonest, incongruous politicians? I don't think that has to be a given.

Ab · 5th June 2015, 14:33

No, the socioeconomic structures of the Western world being unable to afford the lifestyles to which retiring Baby Boomers feel they are entitled.

And retirees can legally vote. A 5-year-old with asthma in some leaky mouldy shithole can't. So guess whose dick gets sucked.

crocos · 5th June 2015, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

Some good news from National: we can still afford to pay $1billion annually to those who don't need it:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...elfare-english

That troll-face grin he's got.

Ab · 5th June 2015, 17:52

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...ed-super-at-65

etc

MadMax · 5th June 2015, 20:47

There needs to be an employer and employee incentive to keep working after 65. Unless I had oodles of money in the bank to waste away on cruises or somesuch, health permitting I'd rather remain socially productive and work for as long as possible. To think that once you hit 35 you "only" have 30 more years of income is daunting.

Juju · 8th June 2015, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

To think that once you hit 35 you "only" have 30 more years of income is daunting.

Or you could look at it optimistically and see that you're not even half way into your working life (Assuming you started working around ~15).

Lightspeed · 16th June 2015, 20:22

White Man Behind A Desk: Social Bonds

The Edge · 19th June 2015, 18:43

Col'n Craig resigns

Nothing · 20th June 2015, 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

To think that once you hit 35 you "only" have 30 more years of income is daunting.

Jesus. I really hope the existing plutocratic financial system doesn't last for another 30 years.

xor · 25th June 2015, 12:03

I thought the Auckland housing market was retarded two years ago, guess I was wrong eh.

Where is all the credit lines coming from that are enabling people to load up with such ridiculous mortgages?

Brutus · 25th June 2015, 13:02

The inflated house market itself of course.

Buy a house, wait a while, or make some 'improvements', have its market value revalued as being 20% higher than the purchase price. Extend that mortgage and use the money from that as the deposit on the next house.

Rinse and repeat.

Ab · 25th June 2015, 13:24

Mana Party ladies and gentlemen

http://mananews.co.nz/wp/?p=5578

madmaxii · 25th June 2015, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Mana Party ladies and gentlemen

http://mananews.co.nz/wp/?p=5578

The comments are very erudite.

blynk · 25th June 2015, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutus

The inflated house market itself of course.

Buy a house, wait a while, or make some 'improvements', have its market value revalued as being 20% higher than the purchase price. Extend that mortgage and use the money from that as the deposit on the next house.

Rinse and repeat.

Yep, pretty much this. But you really needed to have started a few years ago.

StN · 25th June 2015, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmaxii

The comments are very erudite.

To be fair, you must read all of them and consider both in their entirety. Only then can you gain complete insight.

To wit:

contrariness :

Oi weka you're a fucking cunt !

Gweg Pwesland's cheesy knob :

You is batshit cray cray !

crocos · 26th June 2015, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmaxii

The comments are very erudite.

And yet I can "Be the first to comment" now

Lightspeed · 26th June 2015, 14:40

I really hope the Auditor General investigates this Kauri logging:
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/nation...h-our-kauri%27

Ab · 26th June 2015, 16:48

By "logging" you mean "digging them up" yeah?

Lightspeed · 26th June 2015, 16:50

I mean removing Kauri logs to sell them, like in the article. I know, I know, I'm a kiwi, I should be up to play with forestry lingo, forgiveness please.

Ab · 26th June 2015, 17:07

Only just catching up on this one, but it's the environmental damage of tractors and diggers that's the problem isn't it?

Lightspeed · 26th June 2015, 17:13

No, it's the laws protecting NZ heritage from being exported overseas for cheap, being skirted by local exporters (one of whom happens to be married to a current National MP.)

spigalau · 26th June 2015, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Only just catching up on this one, but it's the environmental damage of tractors and diggers that's the problem isn't it?

Correct - Forrest & Bird are pissed that what were once wetlands may now be being dug up in order to reclaim the dead carbon sinks.

pxpx · 26th June 2015, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

Only just catching up on this one, but it's the environmental damage of tractors and diggers that's the problem isn't it?

That, and the general objection to 'raw' resources being exported offshore, instead of value being added here in the form of employed local carvers etc etc.

CCS · 26th June 2015, 18:25

That's a sweet bit of wood. I would have that made into a totally rad banquet table.

pxpx · 30th June 2015, 12:27

Shearer at great risk of coming across like a retard this week re; the coke vs milk comparison

O wait.

crocos · 30th June 2015, 14:53

Isocrates: “Democracy destroys itself because it abuses its right to freedom and equality. Because it teaches its citizens to consider audacity as a right, lawlessness as a freedom, abrasive speech as equality, and anarchy as progress.”

CCS · 2nd July 2015, 14:51

Swamp kauri correction

Quote:

3:11 PM Monday Jun 29, 2015

On Thursday June 18 a story was published in the Northern Advocate, entitled "Call for Halt on Swamp Kauri Exports".

This story mentioned that Kauri Ruakaka Limited, formerly known as Oravida, has a stockpile of swamp kauri at Ruakaka.

The story referred to Kauri Ruakaka Limited by its former name and described it as a Chinese company, when in fact Kauri Ruakaka Limited is and always has been a New Zealand registered company.

We wish to clarify that the article was not intended to give the impression that Kauri Ruakaka Limited (Oravida), Judith Collins MP and her husband have engaged in any illegal or improper conduct in respect of the collection or export of swamp kauri.

The Northern Advocate apologises if any of our readers formed an inaccurate view of the activities of Kauri Ruakaka Limited as a result of this story.

Lightspeed · 2nd July 2015, 15:42

Paper apologises for stating what is assumed but not proven.

I'm not sure why people would assume the worst of National? Maybe it's the 50% jump in homeless people in the Auckland CBD?

CCS · 2nd July 2015, 19:02

Yeah, assumptions should be good enough eh. Let's start treating all assumptions as fact.

Lightspeed · 2nd July 2015, 20:00

There are facts abound that tell the same story.

CCS · 2nd July 2015, 20:08

But the newspapers didn't use them because... why?

Lightspeed · 2nd July 2015, 20:10

What are you talking about? There are loads of facts in the papers showing National to be money grubbing cunts.

Lightspeed · 3rd July 2015, 10:40

National aren't out of the woods for this particular issue yet:

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...ri-rules-wrong

pxpx · 3rd July 2015, 11:30

You mean they aren't out of the swamp just yet.

Lightspeed · 3rd July 2015, 14:50

Haha, indeed.

Ab · 4th July 2015, 15:18

Treasury: no change, if not a slight decrease, in inequality during the past 20 years.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...ury-paper-says

Quote:

In a statement on Friday, NZ Initiative head of research Eric Crampton said "New Zealand simply has no problem of rising inequality".

LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU DIRTY POLITICS

fixed_truth · 4th July 2015, 16:02

That makes it sound like it's been pretty steady during that time.

Ab · 4th July 2015, 16:06

Check the "consumption" line - it has.

5th June 2015, 20:47	#3207
MadMax Stuff	There needs to be an employer and employee incentive to keep working after 65. Unless I had oodles of money in the bank to waste away on cruises or somesuch, health permitting I'd rather remain socially productive and work for as long as possible. To think that once you hit 35 you "only" have 30 more years of income is daunting. __________________ My degree of sarcasm depends on your degree of stupidity.

26th June 2015, 18:25	#3226
CCS Stunt Pants	That's a sweet bit of wood. I would have that made into a totally rad banquet table. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

2nd July 2015, 19:02	#3231
CCS Stunt Pants	Yeah, assumptions should be good enough eh. Let's start treating all assumptions as fact. __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

2nd July 2015, 20:08	#3233
CCS Stunt Pants	But the newspapers didn't use them because... why? __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

5th June 2015, 12:07	#3201
Lightspeed	Some good news from National: we can still afford to pay $1billion annually to those who don't need it: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...elfare-english __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

5th June 2015, 13:00	#3202
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Welcome to the entire western world.

5th June 2015, 13:09	#3203
Lightspeed	What's that? Dishonest, incongruous politicians? I don't think that has to be a given. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

5th June 2015, 14:33	#3204
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	No, the socioeconomic structures of the Western world being unable to afford the lifestyles to which retiring Baby Boomers feel they are entitled. And retirees can legally vote. A 5-year-old with asthma in some leaky mouldy shithole can't. So guess whose dick gets sucked.

5th June 2015, 17:52	#3206
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...ed-super-at-65 etc

16th June 2015, 20:22	#3209
Lightspeed	White Man Behind A Desk: Social Bonds __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

25th June 2015, 12:03	#3212
xor	I thought the Auckland housing market was retarded two years ago, guess I was wrong eh. Where is all the credit lines coming from that are enabling people to load up with such ridiculous mortgages?

25th June 2015, 13:02	#3213
Brutus	The inflated house market itself of course. Buy a house, wait a while, or make some 'improvements', have its market value revalued as being 20% higher than the purchase price. Extend that mortgage and use the money from that as the deposit on the next house. Rinse and repeat. __________________ Some people are like slinkies. Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.

25th June 2015, 13:24	#3214
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Mana Party ladies and gentlemen http://mananews.co.nz/wp/?p=5578

26th June 2015, 14:40	#3219
Lightspeed	I really hope the Auditor General investigates this Kauri logging: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/nation...h-our-kauri%27 __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

26th June 2015, 16:48	#3220
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	By "logging" you mean "digging them up" yeah?

26th June 2015, 16:50	#3221
Lightspeed	I mean removing Kauri logs to sell them, like in the article. I know, I know, I'm a kiwi, I should be up to play with forestry lingo, forgiveness please. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

26th June 2015, 17:07	#3222
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Only just catching up on this one, but it's the environmental damage of tractors and diggers that's the problem isn't it?

26th June 2015, 17:13	#3223
Lightspeed	No, it's the laws protecting NZ heritage from being exported overseas for cheap, being skirted by local exporters (one of whom happens to be married to a current National MP.) __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

30th June 2015, 12:27	#3227
pxpx	Shearer at great risk of coming across like a retard this week re; the coke vs milk comparison O wait.

30th June 2015, 14:53	#3228
crocos	Isocrates: “Democracy destroys itself because it abuses its right to freedom and equality. Because it teaches its citizens to consider audacity as a right, lawlessness as a freedom, abrasive speech as equality, and anarchy as progress.” __________________ Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑ ☼ N وكل يوم كنت تعيش في العبودية

2nd July 2015, 15:42	#3230
Lightspeed	Paper apologises for stating what is assumed but not proven. I'm not sure why people would assume the worst of National? Maybe it's the 50% jump in homeless people in the Auckland CBD? __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

2nd July 2015, 20:00	#3232
Lightspeed	There are facts abound that tell the same story. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

2nd July 2015, 20:10	#3234
Lightspeed	What are you talking about? There are loads of facts in the papers showing National to be money grubbing cunts. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

3rd July 2015, 10:40	#3235
Lightspeed	National aren't out of the woods for this particular issue yet: http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/politi...ri-rules-wrong __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

3rd July 2015, 11:30	#3236
pxpx	You mean they aren't out of the swamp just yet.

3rd July 2015, 14:50	#3237
Lightspeed	Haha, indeed. __________________ Stay shook. No sook.

4th July 2015, 16:02	#3239
fixed_truth	That makes it sound like it's been pretty steady during that time. __________________ Protecting your peace is way more important than proving your point. Some people aren't open to cultivating their views. Just let them be wrong.

4th July 2015, 16:06	#3240
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	Check the "consumption" line - it has.