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1st April 2018, 13:54 | #1 | |
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Prime Minister Peters
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1st April 2018, 15:00 | #2 |
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Your mistake was posting this in OD
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10th April 2018, 16:35 | #3 |
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Ohhh I would be feeling REALLY secure if I was the Greens right now.
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10th April 2018, 18:58 | #4 | |
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11th April 2018, 00:50 | #5 |
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quick I'm lost wtf is Turiana style?
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11th April 2018, 02:15 | #6 |
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Perhaps he means Metiria Turei?
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12th April 2018, 12:03 | #7 |
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All those bloody Maori women are the same. easy mistake to make.
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27th July 2018, 12:12 | #8 |
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I see PM Peters now has the numbers for his awful “waka jumping” bill thanks to some gutless hypocrisy from the Greens.
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27th July 2018, 13:29 | #9 |
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What's the extent of the bill?
I get that in the past political movement in NZ has been spurred by members splitting from thier party (with the changes ultimately being absorbed by the larger parties and the smaller vanishing.) It sounds like this bill undermines that. I also understand that with MMP we're voting for a party and its hierarchy, which raises the question of whether members splitting from a party should retain their position. Unless they specifically won their seat. But there are layers to all this that are beyond me.
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27th July 2018, 15:44 | #10 | |
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I haven't read up that much but going by news articles I don't see a problem.
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27th July 2018, 15:59 | #11 |
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I haven't understood the issue and feel the same.
For list. When I vote for a party, I am not specifically voting for number 22 or 34 or 41. I wouldnt have a fucking clue who they are. If they leave the party for whatever reason, then they should be gone. For the Electoral Seat, I am not sure how I feel if they should be kicked and require a By election, or whether they should be allowed to stay. As people voted for that person (although they probably mostly won because of what party they belong to. |
27th July 2018, 16:46 | #12 |
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Ab can you please learn us on this waka jumping bill and why its bad
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27th July 2018, 18:54 | #13 |
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The Greens speak to the problem with the bill somewhat.
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson on Waka Jumping Bill: We have to compromise If National hadn't been so brutal for the people the Greens are most concerned about, maybe they'd have a choice. I suppose you might argue if they were more canny politicians they would have found a way to oppose the bill. But circumstances are what they are. Still, it would be good to hear more on the bill from the fullas here smart enough to have lectured at uni.
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27th July 2018, 19:19 | #14 | |
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27th July 2018, 19:35 | #15 |
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Those who aren't certain why a ban on waka jumping is bad (and anti-democratic) should think not just about the formation of the Green Party but also the Maori Party. Turiana Turia left Labour over differences over the Seabed and Foreshore Bill. Because a waka jumping ban was in place at the time, she had to quit parliament and a by-election was held (at cost to the taxpayer) to vote on her now empty Maori electorate seat. She was voted back in and from this, the Maori Party was born. But consider what would have happened if she hadn't been voted back in. No Maori Party, and a parliament less representative of voters (the point of MMP is to be more representative of voters). No party representing the voice of Maori people (Labour does a shit job of representing Maori).
Turia took the risk of not being returned to Parliament because she believed strongly enough in her position that she left the Labour Party. Not every politician would have the courage of conviction to do such a thing and therefore would not be willing to disagree with their party leaders, lest they lose their job. Why is this anti-democratic? Because an electorate MP is voted in not just because of the party they belong to, but also because they are representing the community in that electorate. If the party leaders take a position on something that works against that community, then the MP can do little to oppose it. That's bad for that electorate.
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27th July 2018, 23:53 | #16 |
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28th July 2018, 01:31 | #17 | |
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I'm glad they made the choice they did. There's no way National would have won a fifth term and they would have known it. They would have gone for broke and we'd have been screwed.
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28th July 2018, 03:55 | #18 | |
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Also unless it's a conscience vote isn't it the situation already that they can do little to oppose the party line?
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28th July 2018, 08:58 | #19 |
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"Give us the waka jumping bill and we'll give you legal weed."
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28th July 2018, 12:59 | #20 |
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More likely the leave for domestic violence bill that just passed.
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29th July 2018, 09:37 | #21 | ||
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Oh shit I find myself agreeing with Mike Hosking
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3rd August 2018, 13:04 | #22 |
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Credit where it’s due: Peters did a good job as PM. I thought he’d be a disaster.
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3rd August 2018, 14:00 | #23 |
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Me too, I was quite surprised but (for the most part) I thought he did okay.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/01...-as-acting-pm/ |
3rd August 2018, 16:58 | #24 |
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What were people expecting to happen? He got made PM in a parliamentary system, not God Sun Emperor of the Land.
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